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Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 14:58:30
February 19 2014 14:39 GMT
#1601
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 19 2014 14:59 GMT
#1602
Basically mastery pages are a lot more complicated than they were last season. 21/9 isn't always best.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 15:18:17
February 19 2014 15:04 GMT
#1603
the remaining points after the first 4 or 5 into a secondary tree don't do much work with the exception of utility (buff duration). putting them deep into primary trees or dipping into a tertiary tree is a better use

say you're playing katarina mid. a season 3 styled 21/9 offense/defense split might include veteran scars and juggernaut, while a more optimal mastery setup would drop the extra hp in favor of movespeed and trinket range

in general, the masteries in the top row are more valuable than those in the second or third rows unless you have a specific application in mind
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 19 2014 15:08 GMT
#1604
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.

I play all adcs with like 21/6(7)/3(2) because the 3% max hp is ok but I value the mana regen early a lot more.

F is for flash pls.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 19 2014 15:08 GMT
#1605
f is for flash duh
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 16:26:37
February 19 2014 16:24 GMT
#1606
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?


Not sure about 25/3/2, but I used to use 25/2/3 with extra 4 points in CDR, 2 in Block, 3 in Mregen on Ezreal.
Basically you get 5% CDR + mana regen for flat HP and 1 damage block which is a pretty good trade for Ez.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 19 2014 17:02 GMT
#1607
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.

They don't call it DvJ for a reason.

On February 19 2014 22:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 17:21 Gahlo wrote:
On February 19 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 19 2014 16:05 ItsFunToLose wrote:
so...on PBE face of the mountain now scales with 1.5ad of the target. I LOL'd thinking about putting that buff on a 6 item no defense riven.

Actually more Op'd on Zed, since Zed's passive scales even harder (+25% bonus ad)

Don't forget that the masteries give +5% bonus AD.

So Sufficiency, now that you're raking in all the reddit karma, what are you going to pull off next?

Also, OGN qualifiers start at 4EST/10CET/18KST, which is in ~30 minutes!


You do know that self posts get no karma?

I am thinking about making it into a java application or something like that, posting it online, and get $$$ ads money, then use that money to take over the world

RES yo, comment karma is a thing.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 17:21:31
February 19 2014 17:17 GMT
#1608
On February 19 2014 05:41 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 05:39 Sufficiency wrote:
I am still confused as to why you can't reveal your identity. Are you a smurf of someone here?


I already posted my IGN on this thread before , i just stated i wont reveal my ww smurf account.

Is it because it has a ton of losses and a bad winrate or because it doesn't actually exist?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 19 2014 18:11 GMT
#1609
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/02/all-female-lol-tournament-may-threaten-fabric-of-gaming-society/
Somebody call an ambulance.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 19 2014 18:12 GMT
#1610
D is for "don't Die"
F is for "Fuck you".

Thus d is always Flash,
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 19 2014 18:26 GMT
#1611
F is for flash D is for "die motherfucker die"
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 19 2014 18:28 GMT
#1612
One of the things I've noticed about S4 is it feels like jungling is a lot more involved than it was in S3, is this true for anybody else?

I'm seeing a much bigger difference between good junglers and bad junglers in my games now.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 19 2014 18:34 GMT
#1613
On February 20 2014 03:28 Ketara wrote:
One of the things I've noticed about S4 is it feels like jungling is a lot more involved than it was in S3, is this true for anybody else?

I'm seeing a much bigger difference between good junglers and bad junglers in my games now.

Probably as a result of farming decently while ganking is rewarded by Conservation. The junglers that are better at it get even more gold than before, putting them farther ahead, making them more successful.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 19 2014 18:48 GMT
#1614
Moving mp5 to the Butcher passive also made it way harder to run around ganking and stirring things up, since you'll end up oom more or less quickly if you don't hit camps to get some mana back. Very active games with lots of fights/kills may hinder you because you won't be able to spend your stacks without willing detours (that the situation won't necessarily allow), nor to stay in the field long without running out of mana and potentially health.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 19 2014 18:49 GMT
#1615
On February 20 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.

They don't call it DvJ for a reason.

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 22:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 19 2014 17:21 Gahlo wrote:
On February 19 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 19 2014 16:05 ItsFunToLose wrote:
so...on PBE face of the mountain now scales with 1.5ad of the target. I LOL'd thinking about putting that buff on a 6 item no defense riven.

Actually more Op'd on Zed, since Zed's passive scales even harder (+25% bonus ad)

Don't forget that the masteries give +5% bonus AD.

So Sufficiency, now that you're raking in all the reddit karma, what are you going to pull off next?

Also, OGN qualifiers start at 4EST/10CET/18KST, which is in ~30 minutes!


You do know that self posts get no karma?

I am thinking about making it into a java application or something like that, posting it online, and get $$$ ads money, then use that money to take over the world

RES yo, comment karma is a thing.

I'm always running Flash on D. Today I've accidentaly flashed instead of smiting, was fun.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 19 2014 18:50 GMT
#1616
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.


[X] K
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 19 2014 18:53 GMT
#1617
On February 20 2014 03:49 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:
On February 19 2014 23:39 Omnishroud wrote:
All my masteries are 21/9 atm (as in, 21 in one, 9 in the other, not 21 atk 9 def)

Why am i seeing so many 25/3/2 and shit like this, are my masteries retarded? Whats the benefit behind this can someone explain and tell me what i should be generally doing in each role?

Also

Poll: Flash D or F?

F (40)
 
59%

D (28)
 
41%

68 total votes

Your vote: Flash D or F?

(Vote): D
(Vote): F



D Superiority.

They don't call it DvJ for a reason.

On February 19 2014 22:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 19 2014 17:21 Gahlo wrote:
On February 19 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 19 2014 16:05 ItsFunToLose wrote:
so...on PBE face of the mountain now scales with 1.5ad of the target. I LOL'd thinking about putting that buff on a 6 item no defense riven.

Actually more Op'd on Zed, since Zed's passive scales even harder (+25% bonus ad)

Don't forget that the masteries give +5% bonus AD.

So Sufficiency, now that you're raking in all the reddit karma, what are you going to pull off next?

Also, OGN qualifiers start at 4EST/10CET/18KST, which is in ~30 minutes!


You do know that self posts get no karma?

I am thinking about making it into a java application or something like that, posting it online, and get $$$ ads money, then use that money to take over the world

RES yo, comment karma is a thing.

I'm always running Flash on D. Today I've accidentaly flashed instead of smiting, was fun.

Treat league like real life. Don't Flash your D.
Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
February 19 2014 18:54 GMT
#1618
On February 20 2014 03:11 Gahlo wrote:
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/02/all-female-lol-tournament-may-threaten-fabric-of-gaming-society/
Somebody call an ambulance.


Jokes aside, in na i haven't seen a high level female stream that actually belongs to that level, maybe that uh, alexia or alexa or w/e her name is. All others were clearly carried hardcore.
Pumpkins!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 19 2014 18:55 GMT
#1619
On February 20 2014 03:54 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 03:11 Gahlo wrote:
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/02/all-female-lol-tournament-may-threaten-fabric-of-gaming-society/
Somebody call an ambulance.


Jokes aside, in na i haven't seen a high level female stream that actually belongs to that level, maybe that uh, alexia or alexa or w/e her name is. All others were clearly carried hardcore.


Hafu was an alright gal who played LoL.

Left us for HS tho.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
February 19 2014 19:22 GMT
#1620
On February 20 2014 03:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 03:54 Sarah Bryant wrote:
On February 20 2014 03:11 Gahlo wrote:
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/02/all-female-lol-tournament-may-threaten-fabric-of-gaming-society/
Somebody call an ambulance.


Jokes aside, in na i haven't seen a high level female stream that actually belongs to that level, maybe that uh, alexia or alexa or w/e her name is. All others were clearly carried hardcore.


Hafu was an alright gal who played LoL.

Left us for HS tho.


Hafu was pretty bad and only played zyra/duo'd with pros though. At least sometimes she went mid but I don't think I ever saw her do well.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
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