[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 107

On January 27 2014 04:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I'd, instead, expect base stat nerfs to Jinx. Perhaps to her base AS among other stats, focusing on her early game.

On January 27 2014 04:35 cLutZ wrote:
Jinx is just the strongest AD, but I actually wouldn't touch any of them until toplane is fixed. Personally I think Lucian is a bigger balance problem in botlane than Jinx because he makes champs like Graves, Corki, and MF basically stupid to pick, and on top of that he makes it really difficult to pick champs like Trist, Kog, Vayne, and Ashe because of laning (two of those are also irrelevant because of toplane's ridiculousnees right now as well).

On January 27 2014 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:

to be honest, jinx doesn't need a nerf. every ADC just needs a buff.
They're so fucking useless in teamfights compared to everyone else. S4 adc's pretty much are only there to take towers, and if they can do some burst damage, then that's good enough.

On January 27 2014 04:45 Fusilero wrote:

Start with graves pls rito.

On January 27 2014 04:49 wei2coolman wrote:

I don't even know how they can give Jinx a global execute version of Graves ult, and dat range, and dat poke, without modernizing Graves.

On January 27 2014 03:16 Gorsameth wrote:
I feel like a lot of people talking about yasuo's weaknesses have never played against the IE/Shiv/Tank version. It really removes a lot of weaknesses. He doesnt need more damage then those 2 items to destroy everyone.

On January 27 2014 04:58 Ketara wrote:
Yeah I think there's probably a number of ADCs that could use buffs.

Quinn buff plx.

On January 27 2014 04:56 clickrush wrote:


honestly that is the only version i've seen so far. shiv+ie has a very shitty timing. your bruiser will have sunfire+randuins by then and will initiate fights. no way yasuo is dueling a bruiser in a splitpush (its actually almost painful to watch when a yasuo tries this either in pro or in soloq play). the only use cases are the following: 1. yasuo snowballs from laneing phase (midlane mostly) and gets significant gold lead so he has a relevant teamfight. 2. yasuo deals follow up/cleanup damage in well engaged teamfights and is not getting focussed (he gets carried) 3. the opposing team has almost no CC to deal with melee autoattackers and has trouble to control/kite him and not enough disengage to maintain a poke war. yasuo winning by himself is a pure snowball case and a yasuo who is behind is extremely crippling because he doesn't provide anything aside a situational shield, which can be very good I admit but in the other hand I rather have someone who can poke/cc himself instead of someone who blocks a little bit of it sometimes.

On January 27 2014 04:59 nafta wrote:

She isn't an adc.She is an assassin and a splitpusher like vayne except shitty in teamfights.

On January 27 2014 04:59 nafta wrote:

She isn't an adc.She is an assassin and a splitpusher like vayne except shitty in teamfights.

On January 27 2014 07:42 Alaric wrote:
Not quite the same kind of music as on other streams.