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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 13:45:20
January 26 2014 13:43 GMT
#2081
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
January 26 2014 14:17 GMT
#2082
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.


How do you build her?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2014 14:24 GMT
#2083
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

Also tolki hasn't really been a part of the d1 circlejerk in a while so why would you trust him.

And scip is part of the challenger circlejerk now.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 14:56:28
January 26 2014 14:35 GMT
#2084
On January 26 2014 23:24 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

Also tolki hasn't really been a part of the d1 circlejerk in a while so why would you trust him.

And scip is part of the challenger circlejerk now.

He knows my real worth don't worry I carried him to Challenger.

EDIT : I feel like a good renekt nerf would be to nerf his W range. It's way too big.
The legend of Darien lives on
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 26 2014 14:56 GMT
#2085
On January 26 2014 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 23:24 nafta wrote:
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

Also tolki hasn't really been a part of the d1 circlejerk in a while so why would you trust him.

And scip is part of the challenger circlejerk now.

He knows my real worth don't worry I carried him to Challenger.


You played for more than 5 hours a day in order to do that?
hi
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 14:57 GMT
#2086
On January 26 2014 23:56 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 23:24 nafta wrote:
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

Also tolki hasn't really been a part of the d1 circlejerk in a while so why would you trust him.

And scip is part of the challenger circlejerk now.

He knows my real worth don't worry I carried him to Challenger.


You played for more than 5 hours a day in order to do that?

No need, I'm a casual.
The legend of Darien lives on
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 26 2014 14:58 GMT
#2087
On January 26 2014 23:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 23:56 Sponkz wrote:
On January 26 2014 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 23:24 nafta wrote:
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

Also tolki hasn't really been a part of the d1 circlejerk in a while so why would you trust him.

And scip is part of the challenger circlejerk now.

He knows my real worth don't worry I carried him to Challenger.


You played for more than 5 hours a day in order to do that?

No need, I'm a casual.



Casual and French
hi
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 26 2014 15:04 GMT
#2088
On January 26 2014 23:17 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.


How do you build her?

Always Spectral Wraith, then Nashor's, then usually Lichbane and Rabadons. Boots I usually get Sorcs but I get them very late.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 15:08 GMT
#2089
On January 27 2014 00:04 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 23:17 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.


How do you build her?

Always Spectral Wraith, then Nashor's, then usually Lichbane and Rabadons. Boots I usually get Sorcs but I get them very late.

AP/AS/Ar/AP blues I guess ?
The legend of Darien lives on
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 26 2014 15:10 GMT
#2090
Exactly. Masteries I use 21/9/0 taking both AD and AP in offense.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 15:25 GMT
#2091
On January 27 2014 00:10 Scip wrote:
Exactly. Masteries I use 21/9/0 taking both AD and AP in offense.

Are the 9 defensive points really worth it after the 2 to reduce monster damage ?

You should try 27 or 28/2/0 <3
The legend of Darien lives on
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 16:00:28
January 26 2014 15:59 GMT
#2092
On January 26 2014 21:19 Gahlo wrote:
Yasuo runes.
Poll: Crit runes?

5% (15)
 
79%

It's a gimmick (2)
 
11%

1% (2)
 
11%

19 total votes

Your vote: Crit runes?

(Vote): It's a gimmick
(Vote): 1%
(Vote): 5%



5% crit is legit. I've even seen Koreans run them. While Yasuo is strong and needs nerfs I don't believe he's as OP as people think. Riot should nerf his passive and remove some of the damage from early game E and he'd be fine.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 16:29:22
January 26 2014 16:13 GMT
#2093
5% puts you at 100% after finishing Shiv & IE right? then why the hell not!.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 26 2014 16:29 GMT
#2094
I like how they give yasuo 2x crit and a free warmogs passive just to try to make a melee ad viable lel
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 26 2014 16:37 GMT
#2095
On January 26 2014 22:43 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 20:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 19:31 The_Unseen wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:36 Scip wrote:
Jungle Kayle is back
she's strong as hell
I don't think I need to justify myself apart from the fact that her early jungle as is fast as Evelynn's

You know who tipped you in on this one yo.


I like how everyone went "Uh Jungle Kayle's shit" last time I played with you guys and said it was so good. Diamond 1 circlejerk ftw, keep on munching on each other's cum

EDIT : Although to be fair, Scip wasn't here and Teut is a cunt, so this might explain that

I wasn't there either. But a week ago Scip asked me who I thought were jungle OP, I told him Kayle, he laughed at my face, tried, and went «omg this shit is broken».

Yeah, that's kinda how it went. The problem is that I didn't know how to jungle properly back when I tried Kayle jungle waaay back and so I overlooked her strengths and the bias remained. Now that I can deal with a jungler who has poor ganks I can see just how awesome she is.

If I didn't trust in your jungle Kayles in inhouses that's because a lot of bad non-standard shit is played there as well. I'd call it the TROLLS syndrome, but there's no use burning a dead project.

How exactly do you "jungle properly" with Kayle? It never seems to work out for me.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22369 Posts
January 26 2014 16:37 GMT
#2096
On January 27 2014 01:29 Slayer91 wrote:
I like how they give yasuo 2x crit and a free warmogs passive just to try to make a melee ad viable lel

The double crit probably wasnt even needed and the Passive can be toned down a little bit but the shield is what makes him viable in mid i feel.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 26 2014 16:43 GMT
#2097
Then again I think it's the most elegant way they've used yet. Free crit like Tryndamere is annoying to play against because you can get RNG'd out of lane easily and it's volatile, and free AD/AS steroid don't cut it, AD because it would need to be huge (or %-based like Yi, which isn't the most elegant way to go about it) since it's already the most readily available stat to buy and stack (making an absolute value worth less comparatively as the game progresses, again see Trynd and Fiora), and AS gets pretty gimped when you have to chase and move around.

Crit is available in a way that makes you want to buy several items, but usually melee champs can't afford it because they're too squishy. Boosting your crit% (while reducing your crit damage to balance it out) gives you the incentive to buy these items while letting you keep several slots for defensive itemisation.
The raw HP values on his shield and his W passive (moreso at release) were way more problematic I think, and then it's a numbers' thing.

You also have all his weird interaction with AS and CDR, especially on his Q, that makes him probably hard to understand (and itemise correctly, for example Zerks seemed pretty unintuitive to me at first) for beginners.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 26 2014 16:56 GMT
#2098
I think it was Darien who talked about him the best in regards to Yasuo's competitive viability. He essentially said that Yasuo was a risky pick because you have to pick champions that work well with his ult and the enemy has to pick champions whom he can counter with his W for him to be fully effective in competitive play.

Of course though, in solo queue, his kit allows him to have a strong early game and avoid ganks which means he can usually stay even or get ahead and once he has his core Shiv/IE he's a complete beast. Honestly Yasuo feels like the champion Fiora should've been. I just hope Riot doesn't go overboard on the Yasuo nerfs or he'll probably end up being even more niche than other "melee carries."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22369 Posts
January 26 2014 16:59 GMT
#2099
On January 27 2014 01:56 overt wrote:
I think it was Darien who talked about him the best in regards to Yasuo's competitive viability. He essentially said that Yasuo was a risky pick because you have to pick champions that work well with his ult and the enemy has to pick champions whom he can counter with his W for him to be fully effective in competitive play.

Of course though, in solo queue, his kit allows him to have a strong early game and avoid ganks which means he can usually stay even or get ahead and once he has his core Shiv/IE he's a complete beast. Honestly Yasuo feels like the champion Fiora should've been. I just hope Riot doesn't go overboard on the Yasuo nerfs or he'll probably end up being even more niche than other "melee carries."

The enemy has an ADC. Therefor his W can be effective. You need someone to combo with him. Pick a Vi who is a normal pick anyway.
I fail to see the problem.
Esp the first comment sounds really wierd to me. The whole point of drafting is to get a team with synergy...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 26 2014 17:02 GMT
#2100
The shield needs to be toned down a bit, like it starts as a 60-70 damage shield at lvl1 then rockets to 690 at lvl18 like ??????????????????
Bronze player stuck in platinum
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