On November 12 2013 07:41 Slusher wrote:
and appropriately to this page Dig announces Cruzer as their new top lane.

to be fair they did try new blood last time.

Has anyone out of Legion done anything impressive? I guess Laute and pr0lly are dominating challenger scrubs after coming in last in LCS

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

November 11 2013 22:47 GMT

#2722

Does CLG even have its support yet?

Honestly, the thing I see about NA soloq being the "problem" is actually the pro players themselves. There are plenty of players who try hard in challenger, but in the pros only Wildturtle takes it the least bit seriously (although he goes a little ham sometimes, but you need to in SoloQ to try to press advantages). Support players seem to also be semi-serious, but that seems to be because its a great time to play the "fun" roles.

On the other hand Dyrus, Voyboy, TOO, etc just go ham full time, like even doing goofy lvl 2 or lvl 1 all-ins vs. a Darius. Or they act surprised when a gank happens when they do said All-in. Even worse is the CLG lineup who all seem to think it has no value at all.

Sprouter

United States1724 Posts

November 11 2013 22:48 GMT

#2723

There are only so many LCS slots.

-Zoda-

France3578 Posts

November 11 2013 22:51 GMT

#2724

Very disappointed by Dig's choice... We would know by the time if Cruzer was a really good player..

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

November 11 2013 22:52 GMT

#2725

Well scarra did say they wanted to pick someone new but they just couldn't find anyone lol.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

November 11 2013 22:54 GMT

#2726

--- Nuked ---

Zess

Adun Toridas!9144 Posts

November 11 2013 22:55 GMT

#2727

I hear trick2g plays a mean Udyr top

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

November 11 2013 22:56 GMT

#2728

I should move to USA and become pro

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

November 11 2013 23:01 GMT

#2729

On November 12 2013 07:43 xes wrote:

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Has anyone out of Legion done anything impressive? I guess Laute and pr0lly are dominating challenger scrubs after coming in last in LCS

Laute's had to resign for family reasons (and weakens CoL somewhat noticeably). Makes me so sad, since they were a favorite for the promos. Now there's no guarantee for a fab team in the LCS, since TBD doesn't look stronk enough (and Arthelon's inconsistency plays into it), and ggLA hasn't been the same since Crs poached Quas (even if Otter/Nydus are doing fairly well).

:<

Cruzer for Dig top lane...well, it'll be better than KiwiKid (who just didn't pan out after a what was a great opening to his tenure). I honestly haven't heard much from him since Legion disbanded due to organizational issues, and after he wrote his Top Lee Sin guide.

De4ngus

United States6533 Posts

November 11 2013 23:01 GMT

#2730

Cruzer is pretty terrible lol. My friend dkbnet and I were also asked to try out for dignitas but we have school 8]

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

November 11 2013 23:03 GMT

#2731

not sure if that blitz in alex' game is troll or a god haha

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

November 11 2013 23:04 GMT

#2732

On November 12 2013 07:43 xes wrote:

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Has anyone out of Legion done anything impressive? I guess Laute and pr0lly are dominating challenger scrubs after coming in last in LCS

Demunlul is probably a better ADC than Cop, but they won't start him over Cop. Although this is based mostly on Season 2 performances, but I think he's still pretty solid.

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21243 Posts

November 11 2013 23:05 GMT

#2733

hahahah Cruzer really oh my god Dignitas you really don't want to win do you...

Amethyst21

Canada7032 Posts

November 11 2013 23:07 GMT

#2734

Dignitas now my #1 pick to be in relegations next LCS split. Scarra and Cruzer in the solo lanes and Crumbzz in the jungle.... I can't think of a weaker combo in the LCS/Challenger teams. Like even Complexity with Megazero/Prolly/Ninjaken is better than that. Mindblowing

'Hey guys our last top laner was pretty one dimensional, so we are going to replace him with an even MORE one dimensional player and hope that works out' Good job, good effort Dignitas

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

November 11 2013 23:08 GMT

#2735

On November 12 2013 08:04 onlywonderboy wrote:

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Demunlul is probably a better ADC than Cop, but they won't start him over Cop. Although this is based mostly on Season 2 performances, but I think he's still pretty solid.

Sadly yeah: Demunlul is perty good, but he just hasn't gotten the exposure or high end competitive play experience yet.

But tbh, there are alot of great NA ADCs that aren't seeing LCS play. Robert has a chance since TBD are in for the Challenger Promos (his team missed out last time because he got amnesia), but TBD looks shaky.

Meanwhile, NA competitive's top lanes, jungle, and mid lanes could use an upgrade, but there's generally been a pretty narrow pool of candidates, compared to the great pool of bot lane talent.

On November 12 2013 08:07 Amethyst21 wrote:
Dignitas now my #1 pick to be in relegations next LCS split. Scarra and Cruzer in the solo lanes and Crumbzz in the jungle.... I can't think of a weaker combo in the LCS/Challenger teams. Like even Complexity with Megazero/Prolly/Ninjaken is better than that. Mindblowing

'Hey guys our last top laner was pretty one dimensional, so we are going to replace him with an even MORE one dimensional player and hope that works out' Good job, good effort Dignitas

I will cling to my fanboyism and disagree. Scarra and Crumbzz performed well Spring (even Kiwi did decent), but after nerfs to their champs, or general meta/game changes (jungle changes in particular), Dig just didn't adapt well. Even Patoy/Qtpie, whom were probably the best bot lane NA, lost their luster (Patoy was still pretty damn consistent in the Summer, but you couldn't consider him inarguably the best NA support anymore), though it may be part of Qtpie apparently shotcalling from ADC (very unorthodox). Crumbzz went from being pretty much an early game core to their strengths to pretty unreliable, etc.

I honestly feel Dig's problems lies in teamwork and coordination (also, meta changes/nerfs from Spring to Summer hit them hard). And questionable throws. Really questionable throws.

I'll reserve judgement on who will be in relegations next; it'll depend on how well teams adapt to the new S4 meta (which probably favors C9, given their style of play).

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

November 11 2013 23:11 GMT

#2736

On November 12 2013 08:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:

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Or TBD fails and ~~Vulcun~~ XD.GG finally realizes starting Robert is their destiny.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

November 11 2013 23:16 GMT

#2737

Even reading the name XD.GG is rageinducing.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

November 11 2013 23:17 GMT

#2738

it's true, Gnome seems cool but I don't know what she was thinking on this one.

Nemireck

Canada1875 Posts

November 11 2013 23:19 GMT

#2739

On November 12 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
Maybe if sponsors/teams dropped shitty players quicker there would be.

This^

One of the reasons KR SoloQ is a REAL avenue towards going pro is that players are actually kicked off their teams. In NA, they're all just buddies playing together and without proper team infrastructure (I know NA has "managers" and "coaches" too, but they're often just friends of the team as well), it's much more difficult to simply remove the weak links.