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Maknoon joins CJ Frost as Midlaner

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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 11 2013 02:10 GMT
#1
CJ Entus progaming LoL team announced in a press release that Maknoon joined their organization.

Maknoon will join CJ Frost and at the same time his change to a midlaner was announced.
Maknoon is a first generation Progamer therefore he has outstanding skill and witty interaction with fans and he has many fans in Korea and abroad which makes him a star player.

Maknoon: "I wanted to join CJ which was regarded as the no1 team for a long time because it happened I am very happy." and "A new enviroment and a new position is an interesting challenge so please look out for me."

CJ Entus coach 강현종 "After Maknoon left KT Arrows he tried out in our team. Now a days he is training with Frost. He played LoL since the old EDG, MIG days and the team atmossphere is good.

Meanwhile Maknoon joined CJ Frost and the rebuilding process for the next season is still ongoing. Soon the final rebuilding decision will be published in an official announcement.

Source: Inven
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1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
October 11 2013 04:50 GMT
#2
So, after a once great rivalry, he comes to join the fallen giants.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51505 Posts
October 11 2013 05:01 GMT
#3
feels like more of a pr move than anything, i don't see how he will upgrade upon gbm/rapidstar.
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
October 11 2013 05:02 GMT
#4
I think Maknoon is no longer a strong player. He has fallen behind the pack and switching positions will likely make things worse. I expect a lackluster season out of him. It's a shame that some of the bigger name teams will still take old stars instead of trying to grab an up and coming player with a lot more potential.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 11 2013 05:25 GMT
#5
Is CJ CLG?
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
October 11 2013 05:38 GMT
#6
Not good for either side really...
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 11 2013 05:45 GMT
#7
He was supposed to come play for Murica
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
October 11 2013 06:00 GMT
#8
Frost is done for good ... Everyone loves Maknoon, but come on, this won't end well.

What happens to Rapidstar and Ganked By Mom?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 06:01 GMT
#9
Eh.

We'll see. It could work out great, but who knows. With Baeme and Ambition on the CJ roster, they already have the Korean all-star mid (currently in slump) and the best mid prospect in Korea. Whomever wins the Blaze mid starting position, the loser is probably a better option for Frost.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 11 2013 06:22 GMT
#10
Oh Maknoon, please make it work this time...
shanesteinke
Profile Joined October 2013
2 Posts
October 14 2013 07:45 GMT
#11
Wow, so many Maknoon doubters. Gankedbymom and Rapidstar have small champion pools and weak laning phases, guess who doesn't. The pressure will be on the jungler who is hopefully mechanically skilled, unlike Cloudtemplar. And to Imperfect1987, you have no idea what you are talking about. This isn't NA with rehashed versions of teams and players who are no longer good, these are Koreans. They actually try players out in the team before picking them for their rosters. He obviously worked out well or they wouldn't have picked him.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 14 2013 08:29 GMT
#12
PANTHEON MID
cool beans
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
October 25 2013 08:53 GMT
#13
Frost has been my favorite team since their MiG days with Shy and Madlife being my two favorite players. I just think that the entire identity of their team is being thrown out the window with everything that's going on with their team now They had an almost impossible to out team fight against composition and a huge part of that was due to how long they've been together. But now, CT retires, Rapidstar gets benched, and Woong got booted (though I never really liked him).

Now, we get Space who Madlife can adapt quickly with, Ganked By Mom who has the smallest champion pool of any pro player, and Helios who I actually really liked from their MLG days before Flame was brought in. I'm sure Space and Madlife will do fine since Madlife can play any style and they looked fine in Summer, GBM... I don't like because he meshed well with Cloudtemplar and now that he's gone... dunno. Helios will probably learn Frost's style pretty quickly since he was on their sister team.

There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 25 2013 09:09 GMT
#14
In case you dont look into the SC2 Forum. Here is an interview with MKP
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433308
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 09:13:25
October 25 2013 09:12 GMT
#15
On October 25 2013 17:53 astray71 wrote:
Frost has been my favorite team since their MiG days with Shy and Madlife being my two favorite players. I just think that the entire identity of their team is being thrown out the window with everything that's going on with their team now They had an almost impossible to out team fight against composition and a huge part of that was due to how long they've been together. But now, CT retires, Rapidstar gets benched, and Woong got booted (though I never really liked him).

Now, we get Space who Madlife can adapt quickly with, Ganked By Mom who has the smallest champion pool of any pro player, and Helios who I actually really liked from their MLG days before Flame was brought in. I'm sure Space and Madlife will do fine since Madlife can play any style and they looked fine in Summer, GBM... I don't like because he meshed well with Cloudtemplar and now that he's gone... dunno. Helios will probably learn Frost's style pretty quickly since he was on their sister team.



Well that's one of the big differences between Korean and Western eSports I guess. They simply have to sacrifice a part of their personality in order to remain competitive, because winning just seems way more important over there, also for the fans. Even if you got the brightest personalities on your team, they won't get popular until they do well.

On October 25 2013 18:09 Chexx wrote:
In case you dont look into the SC2 Forum. Here is an interview with MKP
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433308


I think you might have confused this thread with the Korean LoL news one, since it was just bumped I suppose.

Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 11:10:57
October 25 2013 11:10 GMT
#16
narf nvm
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 25 2013 13:26 GMT
#17
koreans are more deferential to teh organization while western players are individualistic in their mentality. maknoon and reapered are not very korean in this respect
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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