• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:08
CEST 06:08
KST 13:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BW General Discussion BSL Season 23 Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10063 users

[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 42

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 40 41 42 43 44 383 Next
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
October 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#821
I just wanted to come out of lurking to say that I am really liking this in depth Shyvana discussion, it seems we are kind of spinning our wheels at this point but it has sure been thought provoking, and somehow managed to stay civil. This is what TL GD should be about!
I got nothin'...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 03 2013 20:12 GMT
#822
--- Nuked ---
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2013 20:13 GMT
#823
On October 04 2013 05:12 JimmiC wrote:
What about the strategy of picking the least played champions like say a urgot and claiming to be the best in NA in hopes of gaining viewership? Every stream seems to make these claims and if you're the only guy who plays said champion, it would be fairly easy to claim.


Silver streamer - Best Sivir NA

I mean you're not technically wrong, but you are technically still bad
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#824
I mean I don't think Alex has played that great lately either but Wickd???
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#825
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#826
I'm pretty sure I'm best Vi EU. Just throwing that out there :D
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 03 2013 20:16 GMT
#827
On October 04 2013 05:15 Alaric wrote:
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.


This can be justified by the fact that Viktor is simply a terrible champion.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 03 2013 20:17 GMT
#828
On October 04 2013 05:15 Slusher wrote:
I mean I don't think Alex has played that great lately either but Wickd???

hype/popularity > skill in the west
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:19:29
October 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#829
it's not a bad team, but they pose no threat to LD/Fnatic

(in fact they do them a favor by putting Diamond on an irrelevant team)
Carrilord has arrived.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
October 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#830
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Seems impossible. Who has the money to pull off something like this?
Maybe EG? Maybe?
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:20:34
October 03 2013 20:20 GMT
#831
On October 04 2013 05:16 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:15 Alaric wrote:
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.


This can be justified by the fact that Viktor is simply a terrible champion.

Negatory, fleshy meatbag.
It's your boy Guzma!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 20:22 GMT
#832
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#833
On October 04 2013 05:22 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.

EU All-Stars is literally an example of this lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#834
Clg don't have a shotcaller and they don't put players in their main positions though.
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
October 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#835
At the very least, I would be very interested in seeing how that team would fare in EU LCS.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
October 03 2013 20:29 GMT
#836
CLG has fine synergy/chemistry, they are a decent team who perform decently - what's the shocker here? EU All Stars didn't practice.

Maybe that roster would work. Maybe not. But it's not automatically awful just because teams of completely different rosters have/have not had chemistry problems in the past. Lol.
Anything is Possible
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 20:30 GMT
#837
On October 04 2013 05:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:22 KissBlade wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.

EU All-Stars is literally an example of this lol.



EU actually had pretty decent synergy since it was 3/5 gambit members. Yellowpete just sucked and Soaz was nonexistant.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 03 2013 20:31 GMT
#838
On October 04 2013 05:08 YouGotNothin wrote:
I just wanted to come out of lurking to say that I am really liking this in depth Shyvana discussion, it seems we are kind of spinning our wheels at this point but it has sure been thought provoking, and somehow managed to stay civil. This is what TL GD should be about!


It's an interesting discussion based on a bad premise. Many of Mauzel's conclusions hinge on the idea that itemization is important for killing dragon and stealing buffs. The truth is that even in Silver play killing dragon and counter-jungling are 95% player positioning/lane situations/vision and 5% itemization. If you're consistently taking free dragons solo it's because your lanes are winning the game for you.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:35:12
October 03 2013 20:34 GMT
#839
On October 04 2013 05:00 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?


Is Froggen still considered "super-team" worthy anymore? if they don't get Alex it's a middle of the pack team imo.

Froggen still one of the best mids imo. He's like a less awesome Faker, ridiculously huge champ pool, and plays everything very well.

Also, do most EUW players use movement prediction due to usually crappy server connections?

Skimmed through the last few pages, I'm guessing the ending point was Golem > Wriggles.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:39:14
October 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#840
On October 04 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Froggen still one of the best mids imo. He's like a less awesome Faker, ridiculously huge champ pool, and plays everything very well.

That's a really poor comparison because historically Froggen has shown far more issues with being held back by his personal playstyle than Faker has to date.
Moderator
Prev 1 40 41 42 43 44 383 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft556
RuFF_SC2 221
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18095
Sea.KH 66
PianO 29
Icarus 8
Dota 2
febbydoto156
NeuroSwarm145
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr42
Other Games
summit1g9749
JimRising 616
PiGStarcraft267
Maynarde178
ViBE86
ArmadaUGS40
Mew2King31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick462
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 331
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 67
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota253
Upcoming Events
GSL
3h 52m
Yamato Cup
10h 52m
BSL Open Qualifier
14h 52m
BSL Open Qualifier
14h 52m
OSC
18h 52m
Replay Cast
19h 52m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Online Event
6 days
FEL
6 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.