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YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
October 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#821
I just wanted to come out of lurking to say that I am really liking this in depth Shyvana discussion, it seems we are kind of spinning our wheels at this point but it has sure been thought provoking, and somehow managed to stay civil. This is what TL GD should be about!
I got nothin'...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 03 2013 20:12 GMT
#822
--- Nuked ---
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2013 20:13 GMT
#823
On October 04 2013 05:12 JimmiC wrote:
What about the strategy of picking the least played champions like say a urgot and claiming to be the best in NA in hopes of gaining viewership? Every stream seems to make these claims and if you're the only guy who plays said champion, it would be fairly easy to claim.


Silver streamer - Best Sivir NA

I mean you're not technically wrong, but you are technically still bad
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#824
I mean I don't think Alex has played that great lately either but Wickd???
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#825
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
October 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#826
I'm pretty sure I'm best Vi EU. Just throwing that out there :D
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 03 2013 20:16 GMT
#827
On October 04 2013 05:15 Alaric wrote:
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.


This can be justified by the fact that Viktor is simply a terrible champion.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 03 2013 20:17 GMT
#828
On October 04 2013 05:15 Slusher wrote:
I mean I don't think Alex has played that great lately either but Wickd???

hype/popularity > skill in the west
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:19:29
October 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#829
it's not a bad team, but they pose no threat to LD/Fnatic

(in fact they do them a favor by putting Diamond on an irrelevant team)
Carrilord has arrived.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
October 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#830
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Seems impossible. Who has the money to pull off something like this?
Maybe EG? Maybe?
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:20:34
October 03 2013 20:20 GMT
#831
On October 04 2013 05:16 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:15 Alaric wrote:
Well I know that if I want to play but somebody posts that EUW is dead, I'm not gonna try my luck for the moment.

Also so many Viktors since his sale and the new skin wtf. They're all terrible so far.


This can be justified by the fact that Viktor is simply a terrible champion.

Negatory, fleshy meatbag.
It's your boy Guzma!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 20:22 GMT
#832
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#833
On October 04 2013 05:22 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.

EU All-Stars is literally an example of this lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#834
Clg don't have a shotcaller and they don't put players in their main positions though.
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
October 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#835
At the very least, I would be very interested in seeing how that team would fare in EU LCS.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
October 03 2013 20:29 GMT
#836
CLG has fine synergy/chemistry, they are a decent team who perform decently - what's the shocker here? EU All Stars didn't practice.

Maybe that roster would work. Maybe not. But it's not automatically awful just because teams of completely different rosters have/have not had chemistry problems in the past. Lol.
Anything is Possible
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 20:30 GMT
#837
On October 04 2013 05:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:22 KissBlade wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?



Synergy where???

Can't just put all the big names and hope they get along on a team. CLG is a prime example of this.

EU All-Stars is literally an example of this lol.



EU actually had pretty decent synergy since it was 3/5 gambit members. Yellowpete just sucked and Soaz was nonexistant.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 03 2013 20:31 GMT
#838
On October 04 2013 05:08 YouGotNothin wrote:
I just wanted to come out of lurking to say that I am really liking this in depth Shyvana discussion, it seems we are kind of spinning our wheels at this point but it has sure been thought provoking, and somehow managed to stay civil. This is what TL GD should be about!


It's an interesting discussion based on a bad premise. Many of Mauzel's conclusions hinge on the idea that itemization is important for killing dragon and stealing buffs. The truth is that even in Silver play killing dragon and counter-jungling are 95% player positioning/lane situations/vision and 5% itemization. If you're consistently taking free dragons solo it's because your lanes are winning the game for you.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:35:12
October 03 2013 20:34 GMT
#839
On October 04 2013 05:00 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:49 GettingIt wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:47 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/201328/

All of my what? This would be awful for Europe.


Why would it be awful?


Is Froggen still considered "super-team" worthy anymore? if they don't get Alex it's a middle of the pack team imo.

Froggen still one of the best mids imo. He's like a less awesome Faker, ridiculously huge champ pool, and plays everything very well.

Also, do most EUW players use movement prediction due to usually crappy server connections?

Skimmed through the last few pages, I'm guessing the ending point was Golem > Wriggles.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:39:14
October 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#840
On October 04 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Froggen still one of the best mids imo. He's like a less awesome Faker, ridiculously huge champ pool, and plays everything very well.

That's a really poor comparison because historically Froggen has shown far more issues with being held back by his personal playstyle than Faker has to date.
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