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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2013 02:28 GMT
#3881
i honestly don't think curse can find anyone better than pobelter. they are pretty much fucked
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 14 2013 02:28 GMT
#3882
On October 14 2013 08:53 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 08:39 sylverfyre wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:52 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:43 EquilasH wrote:
I, too, don't really see why people are saying Vayne is a hard matchup for Corki. I understand why Vayne is good against Corki/Leona though.


arguing about whether it's unmanageable, i'm saying vayne has an easier time farming vs. corki than vs. cait. You can take less free autos vs. corki than vs. cait.

On the other hand, when you take a free auto from corki, you are probably also taking a phos bomb, which can get pretty painful pretty quickly.
On October 14 2013 08:12 Fusilero wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:02 Kinie wrote:
Speaking of ADCs, is an energy-based ADC viable or no?

Well pre nerfs a long time ago genja rocked everyone with ADC kennen (And jimbz still does)

Jimbz didn't really rock the LCS with AD Kennen though. :p

He sorta did, he drew a load of kennen bans in giants matches from every team. It's a shame that jimbz fell out of LCS as he was a great ADC but giants were so scared of everything and would jerk off and do nothing with a 10k gold lead.


I don't really think Jimbz was a "great" ADC. He was genuinely A tier when he got Kennen, but his next best champion was wayyyy worse.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 14 2013 02:35 GMT
#3883
crs navitar
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 14 2013 02:36 GMT
#3884
On October 14 2013 11:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crs navitar


Don't toy with my emotions pls.
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lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
October 14 2013 02:39 GMT
#3885
Cloud Templar retires.

http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=109&article_id=0002636543

ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
October 14 2013 02:44 GMT
#3886
On October 14 2013 11:39 lefty wrote:
Cloud Templar retires.

http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=109&article_id=0002636543



He's a good caster/analyzer. He has personality, and I think he'll do really well in that field.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#3887
As expected. Fun fact, at Worlds we were parked 4 cards away from his rental car. Saw him carrying a bunch of swag bags back to it. I waved at him lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 14 2013 02:59 GMT
#3888
I feel so bad for Pobe .
User was warned for too many mimes.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 03:23:53
October 14 2013 03:07 GMT
#3889
On October 14 2013 11:24 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 10:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, can't change vayne without creating an early game monster. Whatever.


Way to take things out of context. I said you can't reduce Vayne's range without making her into more of a blunt force instrument.

Lets just say we took Vayne and made her Vayne-525. Vayne-525 sucks in lane, is probably still a strong duelist, and is slightly weaker in teamfights.

To make Vayne-525 as strong as Vayne, you need to buff something. Your suggestion basically means skill is less relevant to her earlygame.

I don't even know what that means. (EDIT: I know what you mean. It's just absurd.) You're still going to have to play well to trade with people, if you really think you couldn't improve her laning without turning her into some ridiculous right click killer in lane, I don't think there's much I can say to dig you out of a position that entrenched.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 14 2013 03:18 GMT
#3890
On October 14 2013 12:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 11:24 cLutZ wrote:
On October 14 2013 10:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, can't change vayne without creating an early game monster. Whatever.


Way to take things out of context. I said you can't reduce Vayne's range without making her into more of a blunt force instrument.

Lets just say we took Vayne and made her Vayne-525. Vayne-525 sucks in lane, is probably still a strong duelist, and is slightly weaker in teamfights.

To make Vayne-525 as strong as Vayne, you need to buff something. Your suggestion basically means skill is less relevant to her earlygame.

I don't even know what that means. You're still going to have to play well to trade with people, if you really think you couldn't improve her laning without turning her into some ridiculous right click killer in lane, I don't think there's much I can say to dig you out of a position that entrenched.

I think what he said, to make a champion viable at such low range, you have to give them such strong stats or abilities to compensate for lack of range. Similar to if you some how made bruiser long ranged champs, they'd be beyond bonkers with their base stats.
liftlift > tsm
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
October 14 2013 03:19 GMT
#3891
Cloudtemplar retires

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2480

CJ Entus Frost LoL Progamer Cloudtemplar (26) retires.

Cloudtemplar started his progaming career with MiG, later becoming Azubu and finally CJ Entus

In 2012 Cloudtemplar with CJ Frost won the LoL Invitational. His team has never been below the semifinals and obtained great success. Also participating in the Season 2 World Championship and becoming the runner up, and also winning IEM World Championship, Cloudtemplar represented the Korean LoL Progaming scene.

Cloudtemplar states "It was a decision for the team and me to develop ourselves. I thank all my fans who have supported and cheered for me"

Cloudtemplar will take a break and will decide later what to do next.

Written by Inven Cyia
Translated by UnKooL
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 14 2013 03:19 GMT
#3892
On October 14 2013 10:11 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 10:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Ghandi is a troll tho

I can account for the realness.

Lucian is da best, yew guyz dun even kno
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 14 2013 03:34 GMT
#3893
On October 14 2013 12:19 UnKooL wrote:
Cloudtemplar retires

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2480

CJ Entus Frost LoL Progamer Cloudtemplar (26) retires.

Cloudtemplar started his progaming career with MiG, later becoming Azubu and finally CJ Entus

In 2012 Cloudtemplar with CJ Frost won the LoL Invitational. His team has never been below the semifinals and obtained great success. Also participating in the Season 2 World Championship and becoming the runner up, and also winning IEM World Championship, Cloudtemplar represented the Korean LoL Progaming scene.

Cloudtemplar states "It was a decision for the team and me to develop ourselves. I thank all my fans who have supported and cheered for me"

Cloudtemplar will take a break and will decide later what to do next.

Written by Inven Cyia
Translated by UnKooL

you beat me to it ^^
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 03:40:33
October 14 2013 03:37 GMT
#3894
On October 14 2013 12:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 11:24 cLutZ wrote:
On October 14 2013 10:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, can't change vayne without creating an early game monster. Whatever.


Way to take things out of context. I said you can't reduce Vayne's range without making her into more of a blunt force instrument.

Lets just say we took Vayne and made her Vayne-525. Vayne-525 sucks in lane, is probably still a strong duelist, and is slightly weaker in teamfights.

To make Vayne-525 as strong as Vayne, you need to buff something. Your suggestion basically means skill is less relevant to her earlygame.

I don't even know what that means. You're still going to have to play well to trade with people, if you really think you couldn't improve her laning without turning her into some ridiculous right click killer in lane, I don't think there's much I can say to dig you out of a position that entrenched.


I'm just basing my assumptions on my experiences with AD Yi, Fiora, Tryndamere + playing short ranged ADs when low on mana (mostly Graves). Its not that you couldn't improve Vayne's laning without turning her into a facerolling monster, its just that unless you expand her range beyond basic AA range on a spell(condem as a low CD, low mana, skillshot anyone?), she will become more snowbally in nature for every reduction in range.

I don't know what you are disputing. What buffs does Ryze need to be good again now that all his spells are 600 range? Probably 20-30% more tankiness and 10% more damage? Would this be that dramatic? Probably not, considering how botlane works, however, Vayne would need to get some free sustain (no AD has that), way more defenses (which makes her all-in-rightclicks really strong), or hyperscaling lategame (aka the "never let a tristana get out of lane less than 30 cs behind").
Freeeeeeedom
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#3895
yeah tomorrow finally jinx patch on KR server I just hope that they unlock jinx immedeatly
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 14 2013 04:19 GMT
#3896
On October 14 2013 12:54 Chexx wrote:
yeah tomorrow finally jinx patch on KR server I just hope that they unlock jinx immedeatly


that's how it went for NA, so she should available following the same pattern.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 14 2013 04:28 GMT
#3897
On October 14 2013 12:19 UnKooL wrote:
Cloudtemplar retires

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2480

CJ Entus Frost LoL Progamer Cloudtemplar (26) retires.

Cloudtemplar started his progaming career with MiG, later becoming Azubu and finally CJ Entus

In 2012 Cloudtemplar with CJ Frost won the LoL Invitational. His team has never been below the semifinals and obtained great success. Also participating in the Season 2 World Championship and becoming the runner up, and also winning IEM World Championship, Cloudtemplar represented the Korean LoL Progaming scene.

Cloudtemplar states "It was a decision for the team and me to develop ourselves. I thank all my fans who have supported and cheered for me"

Cloudtemplar will take a break and will decide later what to do next.

Written by Inven Cyia
Translated by UnKooL


LOL is dead guys

On October 14 2013 11:28 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 08:53 Fusilero wrote:
On October 14 2013 08:39 sylverfyre wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:52 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:43 EquilasH wrote:
I, too, don't really see why people are saying Vayne is a hard matchup for Corki. I understand why Vayne is good against Corki/Leona though.


arguing about whether it's unmanageable, i'm saying vayne has an easier time farming vs. corki than vs. cait. You can take less free autos vs. corki than vs. cait.

On the other hand, when you take a free auto from corki, you are probably also taking a phos bomb, which can get pretty painful pretty quickly.
On October 14 2013 08:12 Fusilero wrote:
On October 14 2013 07:02 Kinie wrote:
Speaking of ADCs, is an energy-based ADC viable or no?

Well pre nerfs a long time ago genja rocked everyone with ADC kennen (And jimbz still does)

Jimbz didn't really rock the LCS with AD Kennen though. :p

He sorta did, he drew a load of kennen bans in giants matches from every team. It's a shame that jimbz fell out of LCS as he was a great ADC but giants were so scared of everything and would jerk off and do nothing with a 10k gold lead.


I don't really think Jimbz was a "great" ADC. He was genuinely A tier when he got Kennen, but his next best champion was wayyyy worse.


I wouldn't call him worlds best allaround ADC or anything but have massive respect for anyone who can take a something as nontraditional and wierd as AD Kennen and hone it until you can shit on pros, it was really cool.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#3898
Wasn't Jimbz playing AD Kennen around the time Kennen was totally broken?
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 14 2013 05:09 GMT
#3899
On October 14 2013 13:28 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 12:19 UnKooL wrote:
Cloudtemplar retires

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2480

CJ Entus Frost LoL Progamer Cloudtemplar (26) retires.

Cloudtemplar started his progaming career with MiG, later becoming Azubu and finally CJ Entus

In 2012 Cloudtemplar with CJ Frost won the LoL Invitational. His team has never been below the semifinals and obtained great success. Also participating in the Season 2 World Championship and becoming the runner up, and also winning IEM World Championship, Cloudtemplar represented the Korean LoL Progaming scene.

Cloudtemplar states "It was a decision for the team and me to develop ourselves. I thank all my fans who have supported and cheered for me"

Cloudtemplar will take a break and will decide later what to do next.

Written by Inven Cyia
Translated by UnKooL


LOL is dead guys

Could we have a retirement thread every week like them pls? :3
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 14 2013 05:14 GMT
#3900
For all of you guys that like to really rag on the Starcraft community just because some loud outliers don't like us, you can be pretty nastily smug :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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