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miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 18 2013 01:33 GMT
#321
On September 18 2013 08:51 SidianTheBard wrote:
Man, so my two filler Mineski picks are really doing well. Exo & Kaigu ftw! Now, hopefully Mithy and Impact don't suck balls today. Thank god for San & Faker though, they are carrying hard and hopefully keep it up.


YES! Exo would have been even better but he couldn't avoid dying in their game vs SSO.
@miicah88
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
September 18 2013 03:21 GMT
#322
Fucking Mithy and his million freaking deaths.

(So, I can sub out Mithy for someone else worth 4 points Ehhhh? Ehhhh??? Gimme dat xspecial!!! hahaha)
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 04:23:39
September 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#323
Fuck yeah faker not dying a 3rd time and getting me more points.
If only I hadn't gone for Dandy over Bengi ;;
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 18 2013 04:34 GMT
#324
Interestingly, despite his substellar play, Tgee is a good pick, and the only candidate with -ve points is inspirro.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 18 2013 04:42 GMT
#325
Puszu has been really surprising. I only picked him because I had heard from someone in passing that he's really underrated.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 18 2013 05:20 GMT
#326
On September 18 2013 13:42 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Puszu has been really surprising. I only picked him because I had heard from someone in passing that he's really underrated.

Not really, not if you've been following EUW soloQ o.o he's the best EU LCS Marksman probably.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 18 2013 05:26 GMT
#327
which is why you picked tabzz
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 18 2013 05:26 GMT
#328
dude I heard Mata is a god and I couldn't spare that 1 point... sigh. Tabzz has been rapping soloQ too
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 18 2013 05:31 GMT
#329
never trust people who change roles imo
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
September 18 2013 05:36 GMT
#330
My master plan isnt working TT.
Pathetic Greta hater.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 18 2013 08:22 GMT
#331
Meh. Faker plz. Next time tear a new asshole. Sad he didn't stomp tan
liftlift > tsm
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 18 2013 09:27 GMT
#332
Ok, picking a high value top was a mistake.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#333
Damn, screw you Piglet for stealing these 3 kills from Faker early on against GG.eu. The duo is going to have such high value, while having only Piglet > having only Faker. I'm fucked now. Curious how far I dropped...
21th. Could have been way worse I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 18 2013 13:42 GMT
#334
On September 18 2013 22:21 Alaric wrote:
Damn, screw you Piglet for stealing these 3 kills from Faker early on against GG.eu. The duo is going to have such high value, while having only Piglet > having only Faker. I'm fucked now. Curious how far I dropped...
21th. Could have been way worse I guess.


Yeah, you could be me at 79th. T_T

Also, do we know yet where the PX/Jazriel cutoff is? Is it just everyone who doesn't win or is there a number threshold?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
September 18 2013 13:53 GMT
#335
So at the halfway mark napkin maths says the best hypothetical team is currently:

AD: San - OMG - 7
Jungle: Oddone - TSM - 4
Mid: Cool - OMG - 8
Support: Pomelo - OMG - 5
Top: Darien - Gambit - 6
Wildcard: Puszu - Fnatic - 5

Total: 375.33 for 35 points.

I'm sure there's a better method than plug in and check but that's what I got.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 18 2013 14:28 GMT
#336
lol, bottom 4 players (myself included) have Looper and Dade. Ozone dream killers.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 18 2013 15:13 GMT
#337
Ya Pomelo and Kaigu, the two players I picked because I wanted to make up points, are doing the most for my team in terms of cost-efficiency, while sOAZ, for whom I sacrificed other roles, is doing jack shit.

Now I just need Genja to pick up the slack after Gambit gave Puszu a free ride to omwtfbs cost-efficiency. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 21:48:22
September 18 2013 17:04 GMT
#338
So we're at the halfway point for fantasy.


Current stats
There are some standout picks right now. San and puszu for ADC both have VERY high pts/game as well as pts/cost. Ghandi being the only person without either inside the top 10 is proof of just how good they are right now. For the relatively low price of 7 / 5 at the very start, they have made every point worth it.

For midlane, there are 4 picks who give a similar amount of fantasy points. But looking purely at cost effectiveness, you have to wonder if midlaners were overpriced or if they simply aren't performing. 62 people picked faker, including me. While he has been performing, getting 66.53 points, he is not living up to the 11 point cost hype, being tied for second lowest cost effectiveness among midlaners, only beating the underperforming dade. With regi holding the highest points/cost for midlane outside Mineskibottom feeders by a healthy margin, those who spent big on midlaners have to be kicking themselves.

Junglers - Not much to look at here. Those who invested in a more expensive jungler are absolutely not seeing returns, with the vast majority having both poor cost effectiveness and relatively poor point return, with only oddone and the two bottom feeding junglers having good return. When you look at GPM points, they are only 50gpm above support.

Supports - Surprisingly effective buys on a lot of teams. With Yellowstar Voidle and Tgee having very good 3.0+ points per game, they provide excellent filler for the underappreciated role. But those who picked a support starting with M have to be disappointed. With barely above a 1pt/cost return, these were poor choices for certain. But there is a worse pick. With the distinguishing feature of being the only player to have a negative rate of return, Inspirro has somehow managed to lose 1.48 points per game. Not a lot of points in the grand scheme of things, but definitely a surprise, and a candidate for most useless player award.

Top - With the prevalence of 2v1, and the associated dives often putting them behind, and the island of 1v1, you'd be a fool to have invested heavily in a top laner. With even the best top laners achieving only 1.86(outside Mineski and GG.eu) cost effectiveness, even though the most expensive tops have had good games, they simply aren't getting the kills and assists to have warranted large investments.

Surprising buys
Mineski players. Holding the highest cost effectiveness in many categories, they are by far the most effective filler picks. Everybody except Exo have above 3.0 points/cost and while they may be bottomfeeding, they are picking up plenty of points for those who chose them.

Disappointments
The most expensive players were by far the worst to pick. Taking up valuable budget space, at the end of the day, you can only ace the enemy team so many times before you win. Faker would need 400+GPM, and 17 points outside that to even break 2.0 points/cost/game. Pretty much all ozone players and SKT players are bad unless you had spare budget space to fit them in. While SKT has provided good points/game, in terms of effectiveness there are a lot of better options.


Going forward, for any future fantasy leagues
- Invest big in cheaper ADC's on winning teams(or wait for Roffles to correctly balance them).
- There are only so many kills and assists in a game. Even with perfect play it's hard to win so slowly that you can rack up massive amounts of kills.
- Spending big on support, top and jungle are terrible ideas. These roles are often sacrificial, and in the current meta also tend to neither get as much farm, nor as many kills and assists.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 18 2013 17:31 GMT
#339
I have two ADCs.

I'd be #1 if ozone wasn't randomly imploding ORZ
TranslatorBaa!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 18 2013 18:10 GMT
#340
On September 19 2013 02:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I have two ADCs.

I'd be #1 if ozone wasn't randomly imploding ORZ


Excuses excuses.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
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