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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 23 2013 23:06 GMT
#741
Just listening to background talk in the C9 house versus the TSM house is really striking. I mean, part of that is the difference between 25-3 and 14-14, but a lot of it is the overall personalities and the environment and the fact that it's 5 players working together instead of 1 player employing 4 players and taking advantage of that power dynamic in a way that might be effective in some environments but is clearly not working in that house.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
August 23 2013 23:08 GMT
#742
On August 24 2013 07:29 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:13 Amethyst21 wrote:
In some actual news front:

LemonNation ‏@LemonnNation 52m

ecco has left a LCS team, but I can't say which one yet, more info to be released later
Details

Huge blow to Velocity if true. I don't know why it would be though?


He's on Velocity. Lemons tweet doesn't make much sense then since well how can't he say which team ecco has left if ecco is only on Velocity? confused..

I think he meant to say to join a new team.

Regi calling it quits and Ecco to TSM? /conclusionyumping
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 23 2013 23:09 GMT
#743
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Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
August 23 2013 23:09 GMT
#744
On August 24 2013 07:55 krndandaman wrote:

No, I'm thinking that their system might be flawed though. Player runs into a bad streak so has low MMR. Must win alot to gain back said MMR. However, because MMR is low, he does not gain much points for winning and loses more points for losing. Winning 50% of your games like before is no longer enough. However, even if I win 60-66% of my games I tend to lose LP rather than gain.


This is wrong, remember that LP means very little, your MMR is still too low for your division, which is why you aren't gaining any LP. You do have to win >50% to regain it.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 23:12:46
August 23 2013 23:12 GMT
#745
On August 24 2013 08:03 Chrispy wrote:
Jesus Regi is such an asshole. Would hate to have work with that guy never the less live with him.

they both behave like spoiled brats, whole situation was pathetic
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2013 23:14 GMT
#746
ugh god here we go. TL GD turns into a gossip club once again.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 23 2013 23:15 GMT
#747
I don't really think living together and playing together is that good of an idea. My ideal setup would be a typical work place. You live where ever then go to work(In this case the play with the pcs), do your training for the day then either stay or go back home. Means you get your personal space and still get the dynamic of all playing together. The current way people set it up just screams for poor living conditions and conflict. Living with friends is completely different to just being friends which people don't seem to grasp.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 23 2013 23:22 GMT
#748
Let's not talk about the Regi/Dyrus drama. It's silly.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 23 2013 23:26 GMT
#749
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 23 2013 23:29 GMT
#750
apparently tsm canceled scrims vs c9 because Dyrus went MIA though most likely cause of this issue.

roffles 4 president!

actually on topic stuff: Lucian seems really strong in lane, ult is abit awkward but Q+doubleauto is super nice harass. Have only played him 2 games so far though cause I was trying the new triforce on a lot of champs.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 23 2013 23:36 GMT
#751
my mother has the same dyndrom regi has, never letting go of an issue and walking back 10 times to start it again, its really irritating.
But thats all i am going to say about this drama before neo gets mad at me.



Also, Daniel if you read this, im not going to gamescom this year, so congratulations on your first champion in writing from me, he seems very fun to play. he reminds me of what Riot said they wanted to do with Riven...dynamic arcade action-y.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 24 2013 00:09 GMT
#752
Is there any high Elo streamer that regularly sreams Lucian? Maybe right now?
Off-season = best season
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 24 2013 00:10 GMT
#753
ha, just a funny note to remind you not to pay too much attention to wiki type gold efficiency stats

According to most basic item price:

1% spellvamp is worth 25.5 gold
1 health per 5 is worth 36 gold

sweet
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 24 2013 00:10 GMT
#754
On August 24 2013 08:15 Numy wrote:
I don't really think living together and playing together is that good of an idea. My ideal setup would be a typical work place. You live where ever then go to work(In this case the play with the pcs), do your training for the day then either stay or go back home. Means you get your personal space and still get the dynamic of all playing together. The current way people set it up just screams for poor living conditions and conflict. Living with friends is completely different to just being friends which people don't seem to grasp.

This so much.

I feel like the "gaming house" model was copied out of Korea, when it only came out of Korea for the sake of being economical, not because it was the most conducive to improvement.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 00:18:05
August 24 2013 00:17 GMT
#755
On August 24 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 08:15 Numy wrote:
I don't really think living together and playing together is that good of an idea. My ideal setup would be a typical work place. You live where ever then go to work(In this case the play with the pcs), do your training for the day then either stay or go back home. Means you get your personal space and still get the dynamic of all playing together. The current way people set it up just screams for poor living conditions and conflict. Living with friends is completely different to just being friends which people don't seem to grasp.

This so much.

I feel like the "gaming house" model was copied out of Korea, when it only came out of Korea for the sake of being economical, not because it was the most conducive to improvement.


eh, a lot of more teamwork based activities in other fields use the teamhouse/bootcamp style to really great effect.

If there is gonna be tons of friction and drama then I agree that a workplace style setup will probably have more consistent results, but if you can set up a really close knit family type teamhouse where the participants actually get along and push each other to the next level, I think its results will blow any other approach out of the water.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 00:19:34
August 24 2013 00:19 GMT
#756
A bootcamp setup works when its bootcamp and you use it to eliminate all other distractions.

When it's the norm what happens is all your personal shit starts seeping in and stays there, rather than using it as a way to keep those things out.
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3303 Posts
August 24 2013 00:23 GMT
#757
On August 24 2013 07:00 StorrZerg wrote:
what happened with tsm err saw the video its w/e


start watching the start, dyrus was pretty mad throwing his headphones http://www.twitch.tv/tsm_dyrus/b/450280789?t=67m00s
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 00:33:28
August 24 2013 00:31 GMT
#758
On August 24 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 08:15 Numy wrote:
I don't really think living together and playing together is that good of an idea. My ideal setup would be a typical work place. You live where ever then go to work(In this case the play with the pcs), do your training for the day then either stay or go back home. Means you get your personal space and still get the dynamic of all playing together. The current way people set it up just screams for poor living conditions and conflict. Living with friends is completely different to just being friends which people don't seem to grasp.

This so much.

I feel like the "gaming house" model was copied out of Korea, when it only came out of Korea for the sake of being economical, not because it was the most conducive to improvement.


I think most of the NA teams thought that they could just get a house together and their problems would magically disappear without working on them. It's not really copied out of Korea, as these teams have no managers or coaches to help with their life style choices. The coaches/managers in other countries care for both mental and physical health of their players. Overall, they probably didn't think it fully through, but it's not the worst idea. It's just that these NA teams are/were really young, and are still figuring some of these things out. After all, there are teams that seem to work well in the environment even without the house/mansion. C9 as an example seem to live in a small apartment together, and their results are far from bad.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 24 2013 00:39 GMT
#759
if 4 members of a team/organization leave together, does those four member (which is the majority) keep the 'seed' in LCS or does the organization keep the LCS place?
<3 Kim Taeyeon
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 24 2013 00:43 GMT
#760
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