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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
August 24 2013 02:12 GMT
#781
After watching a lot of gamecrib-episodes etc I think I got a bit more understanding for Reginald. That being said, seeing that bit of material made me greatly admire Dyrus for not punching his fucking head off. The guy clearly wanted to disengage from the argument and Reginald kept shoving it back in his face. I'd either leave or start a physical fight, and I found it quite impressive Dyrus did neither.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 24 2013 02:25 GMT
#782
On August 24 2013 10:07 TheLink wrote:
So do I start a new thread for this TSM drama discussion or does someone else want to do it? I'd rather not just sweep it under the rug when so many people here are interested in it.


yeah I would encourage you to ask neo if you can start a thread. you guys need a special place where you can braid each other's hair while talking about whether dyrus's feelings were hurt and who slept with who.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 02:29:48
August 24 2013 02:28 GMT
#783
On August 24 2013 11:12 Promises wrote:
After watching a lot of gamecrib-episodes etc I think I got a bit more understanding for Reginald. That being said, seeing that bit of material made me greatly admire Dyrus for not punching his fucking head off. The guy clearly wanted to disengage from the argument and Reginald kept shoving it back in his face. I'd either leave or start a physical fight, and I found it quite impressive Dyrus did neither.


I have to disagree about Dyrus handling this well. This is bullying from Reginald plain and simple. I used to have a roommate who'd argue the same way and even more frequently then Regi and it absolutely eats at you after a while. For generally passive people I think it is really hard to deal with people like this without experience. In my opinion it really is a fight or flight situation because doing nothing will just leave things static and it seems very clear that Dyrus is not happy with the current situation. Regi does not seem to be someone who can be easily reasoned with verbally so you'd have to do it with leverage. What should be done in my opinion is that Dyrus/Xpecial should threaten to leave the team if Reginald does not step down from the managerial position (post worlds of course). Regi cannot ignore what would be 2 allstars leaving the team. There is just no victory on the world stage with that toxic of a work environment and lack of team unity.
OMG you nasty gurl
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 24 2013 02:31 GMT
#784
On August 24 2013 10:55 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 09:59 ExoFun wrote:
I am now uploading a movie with the whole discussion and what becomes for the rage part of Dyrus... much respect for dyrus to keep his head cool for that time.




wow... reginald is a disgusting human being. no wonder they've been performing so poorly lately..



Yeah, third place in a highly competitive field is horrible.. Shame on them for playing badly... Give it a break, they may not be a flawless korean team but they currently have a good chance of winning the whole NA LCS and could give the world title a run for its money.

(I didn't watch the video) Ok we get it... Lots of these kids went from being nobody's who played video games on their spare time if not for a vast majority of their time and sky rocketed to "E-fame" gaining lots of fans and a shit ton of money. You know what happens to individuals who have never had that sort of life? Some of them change for the negative and you can see it in a few people. It is nothing new and it is going to happen time and time again, just let it die or if you feel the need to toss your thoughts in the subject, R/LoL would love to hear your opinions.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#785
On August 24 2013 11:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 10:07 TheLink wrote:
So do I start a new thread for this TSM drama discussion or does someone else want to do it? I'd rather not just sweep it under the rug when so many people here are interested in it.


yeah I would encourage you to ask neo if you can start a thread. you guys need a special place where you can braid each other's hair while talking about whether dyrus's feelings were hurt and who slept with who.

Is it allowed on the Off Topic thread?
liftlift > tsm
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#786
On August 24 2013 11:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2013 10:07 TheLink wrote:
So do I start a new thread for this TSM drama discussion or does someone else want to do it? I'd rather not just sweep it under the rug when so many people here are interested in it.


yeah I would encourage you to ask neo if you can start a thread. you guys need a special place where you can braid each other's hair while talking about whether dyrus's feelings were hurt and who slept with who.

Is it allowed on the Off Topic thread?


Please don't give them ideas and end up ruining that thread.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
August 24 2013 02:35 GMT
#787
On August 24 2013 11:31 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 10:55 Perplex wrote:
On August 24 2013 09:59 ExoFun wrote:
I am now uploading a movie with the whole discussion and what becomes for the rage part of Dyrus... much respect for dyrus to keep his head cool for that time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YQshR0B5Q


wow... reginald is a disgusting human being. no wonder they've been performing so poorly lately..



Yeah, third place in a highly competitive field is horrible.. Shame on them for playing badly...

Actually if you're a premier team like TSM, third is pretty bad. You have no shot at being first if your mentality is that third is good enough.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#788
On August 24 2013 11:34 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 24 2013 11:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2013 10:07 TheLink wrote:
So do I start a new thread for this TSM drama discussion or does someone else want to do it? I'd rather not just sweep it under the rug when so many people here are interested in it.


yeah I would encourage you to ask neo if you can start a thread. you guys need a special place where you can braid each other's hair while talking about whether dyrus's feelings were hurt and who slept with who.

Is it allowed on the Off Topic thread?


Please don't give them ideas and end up ruining that thread.

Well looks like things are escalating pretty quickly (scrims canceled), at what point do we get a chance to talk about this? never? it's not like there's anything else going on.
liftlift > tsm
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#789
On August 24 2013 11:31 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 10:55 Perplex wrote:
On August 24 2013 09:59 ExoFun wrote:
I am now uploading a movie with the whole discussion and what becomes for the rage part of Dyrus... much respect for dyrus to keep his head cool for that time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YQshR0B5Q


wow... reginald is a disgusting human being. no wonder they've been performing so poorly lately..



Yeah, third place in a highly competitive field is horrible.. Shame on them for playing badly... Give it a break, they may not be a flawless korean team but they currently have a good chance of winning the whole NA LCS and could give the world title a run for its money.

(I didn't watch the video) Ok we get it... Lots of these kids went from being nobody's who played video games on their spare time if not for a vast majority of their time and sky rocketed to "E-fame" gaining lots of fans and a shit ton of money. You know what happens to individuals who have never had that sort of life? Some of them change for the negative and you can see it in a few people. It is nothing new and it is going to happen time and time again, just let it die or if you feel the need to toss your thoughts in the subject, R/LoL would love to hear your opinions.


You didn't watch the video and you are just being a blind fanboy. If you did watch the video you would see someone being absolutely repulsive human being bullying his teammate in a way that in any other work place Dyrus would be in line to seek legal counseling . Instead you just arbitrarily stroke TSM's cock while trying to demean someone who actually took the time to figure out what they are talking about (watching the video).
OMG you nasty gurl
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 24 2013 02:40 GMT
#790
On August 24 2013 11:37 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:31 Shelke14 wrote:
On August 24 2013 10:55 Perplex wrote:
On August 24 2013 09:59 ExoFun wrote:
I am now uploading a movie with the whole discussion and what becomes for the rage part of Dyrus... much respect for dyrus to keep his head cool for that time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YQshR0B5Q


wow... reginald is a disgusting human being. no wonder they've been performing so poorly lately..



Yeah, third place in a highly competitive field is horrible.. Shame on them for playing badly... Give it a break, they may not be a flawless korean team but they currently have a good chance of winning the whole NA LCS and could give the world title a run for its money.

(I didn't watch the video) Ok we get it... Lots of these kids went from being nobody's who played video games on their spare time if not for a vast majority of their time and sky rocketed to "E-fame" gaining lots of fans and a shit ton of money. You know what happens to individuals who have never had that sort of life? Some of them change for the negative and you can see it in a few people. It is nothing new and it is going to happen time and time again, just let it die or if you feel the need to toss your thoughts in the subject, R/LoL would love to hear your opinions.


You didn't watch the video and you are just being a blind fanboy. If you did watch the video you would see someone being absolutely repulsive human being bullying his teammate in a way that in any other work place Dyrus would be in line to seek legal counseling . Instead you just arbitrarily stroke TSM's cock while trying to demean someone who actually took the time to figure out what they are talking about (watching the video).


I dunno, I think Dyrus can probably 'seek legal counsel' for that as is. The first video that was posted I thought just looked like an angry argument, but after watching the whole thing I am just amazed.

I wasn't much of a TSM fan before that but after watching this I think I've lost all respect for them. If I were Dyrus I would NOT stay on a team where I was being treated like that.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 24 2013 02:43 GMT
#791
On a side note the reddit thread for this issue is insane. In 5 hours it has 5.4k comments. I would take my thoughts there but I find its impossible to have any real dialogue there about it just due to how much posting is going on.
OMG you nasty gurl
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 02:56:36
August 24 2013 02:48 GMT
#792
At what point am I blindly just stroking TSM's cock, I clearly stated that there are obvious problems and it is the result of these individuals reaching a level of stardom that they can't handle and ego's growing to a point where we currently see certain personalities lash out because of their lack of social skills. If it was any other team with this happening I would be saying the exact same thing, so please trying to discredit my thoughts because I've been known to have fun and post "BAYLIFE. TSM TSM. BAYLIFE" doesn't equal to me trying to defend them blindly. Are they playing optimal? No, I think there are plenty of problems that anyone can see in their play but placing third behind teams like V and C9 is nothing to scoff at but yes, Caelym they do need to improve greatly if they wish to make an impact at the Worlds.

If people wanted to discuss the merit of their play, I would be all for that but that isn't where this convo is leading. It is turning into jump on the bandwagon of bashing players when a camera catches them at their worst moments. Congrats? if Meteos, Mancloud, or ZionSpartan etc.... were caught lashing out on a teammate on cam, nothing would change. My opinion would be the same.

EDIT:.... My bad, I shouldn't have posted in the first place. If anyone wishes to discuss this further, I'd rather take it to PM's because this thread isn't the place. Funny enough, I did the classic post about what I hate seeing posted thus prolonging the subject and directly inserting myself into the discussion.... Back to getting gold/plat with lucian
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 24 2013 02:51 GMT
#793
I don't think as a fan I want behavior like that to be happening at all, on camera or not.

I don't want to be a fan of that sort of person.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 03:00:00
August 24 2013 02:57 GMT
#794
On August 24 2013 11:48 Shelke14 wrote:
At what point am I blindly just stroking TSM's cock, I clearly stated that there are obvious problems and it is the result of these individuals reaching a level of stardom that they can't handle and ego's growing to a point where we currently see certain personalities lash out because of their lack of social skills. If it was any other team with this happening I would be saying the exact same thing, so please trying to discredit my thoughts because I've been known to have fun and post "BAYLIFE. TSM TSM. BAYLIFE" doesn't equal to me trying to defend them blindly. Are they playing optimal? No, I think there are plenty of problems that anyone can see in their play but placing third behind teams like V and C9 is nothing to scoff at but yes, Caelym they do need to improve greatly if they wish to make an impact at the Worlds.

If people wanted to discuss the merit of their play, I would be all for that but that isn't where this convo is leading. It is turning into jump on the bandwagon of bashing players when a camera catches them at their worst moments. Congrats? if Meteos, Mancloud, or ZionSpartan etc.... were caught lashing out on a teammate on cam, nothing would change. My opinion would be the same.


Your not having watched the video opinion is very valuable, thank you for that. This behavior is something I have dealt with frequently at points in my life and its taken me a long time to learn how to deal with it. It really irks me when I see it being done to someone else.
OMG you nasty gurl
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 24 2013 03:01 GMT
#795
On August 24 2013 11:51 Ketara wrote:
I don't think as a fan I want behavior like that to be happening at all, on camera or not.

I don't want to be a fan of that sort of person.


"Regi moments" have been happening since season 1 and people always get in an uproar when it happens, then forget about it later. What's even more sad is that no member of TSM have the spine to stand up for each other while taking abuse for years now.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 24 2013 03:06 GMT
#796
General question...... During Ranked champ select my computer froze and crashed. Resulting in having to restart my computer and having a timeout from playing because I "left" during champ selection. I still lose LP don't I?
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 24 2013 03:11 GMT
#797
On August 24 2013 12:06 Shelke14 wrote:
General question...... During Ranked champ select my computer froze and crashed. Resulting in having to restart my computer and having a timeout from playing because I "left" during champ selection. I still lose LP don't I?

LP doesnt mean anything
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 24 2013 03:13 GMT
#798
On August 24 2013 12:11 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 12:06 Shelke14 wrote:
General question...... During Ranked champ select my computer froze and crashed. Resulting in having to restart my computer and having a timeout from playing because I "left" during champ selection. I still lose LP don't I?

LP doesnt mean anything


Was just wondering. While improving, I would like to obtain gold.. I'm so close!
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 24 2013 03:14 GMT
#799
On August 24 2013 12:06 Shelke14 wrote:
General question...... During Ranked champ select my computer froze and crashed. Resulting in having to restart my computer and having a timeout from playing because I "left" during champ selection. I still lose LP don't I?


You lose LP and adds a loss if you are in a series, but your MMR doesn't decrease.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 24 2013 03:18 GMT
#800
On August 24 2013 12:14 dottycakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 12:06 Shelke14 wrote:
General question...... During Ranked champ select my computer froze and crashed. Resulting in having to restart my computer and having a timeout from playing because I "left" during champ selection. I still lose LP don't I?


You lose LP and adds a loss if you are in a series, but your MMR doesn't decrease.


thanks for the answer!
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