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[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 2

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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 21 2013 22:58 GMT
#21
So when is worlds btw?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 21 2013 22:59 GMT
#22
These seem like common sense changes to me, well done Riot.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 21 2013 23:03 GMT
#23
There's now a mere 828g difference between Phantom Dancer and Trinity Force. So by sacrificing 20% Crit and Attack Speed, you gain:
  • 30 AD
  • 30 AP
  • 250 Health
  • 200 Mana
  • 3% Movement Speed
  • Rage and Spellblade Passives

If we go by the wiki's questionable gold values, the raw stats alone put you ~400gold ahead. Practically speaking any carry who regularly uses abilities is going to gain way more from what Trinity offers.

This also makes IBG questionable on anyone who isn't Ez/GP.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 23:08:45
August 21 2013 23:04 GMT
#24
so teemo with phage (or any adc) is going to be even more obnoxious for melee than before considering theres no rng involved
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#25
if you had 400 ms phage slowed you by 100, teemo getting 20 more ms is much less of a problem, considering they auto enoguh to have d ecent phage uptime
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 23:14:43
August 21 2013 23:08 GMT
#26
Man I love this patch! Trinity buff, twitch nerfs, and just minor tweaks all around. The only thing I dislike is Zac's bouncyness nerf but I guess it was justified. He's just less fun this way I wish they did a numbers nerf instead. Oh well!

I also find it whack that Phage doesn't build into Mallet (and only Trinity).
Jaedong :3
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
August 21 2013 23:09 GMT
#27
Do the rage procs stack?
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 23:14:53
August 21 2013 23:13 GMT
#28
On August 22 2013 08:09 BlasiuS wrote:
Do the rage procs stack?

No. Atleast I don't think so as passives usually don't stack.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 21 2013 23:17 GMT
#29
Who is this guy and why does he have 17k viewers?

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
August 21 2013 23:20 GMT
#30
Riot seems to like to show off Riven's legs. I am perfectly okay with this.

+ Show Spoiler +
And her buffs.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 21 2013 23:23 GMT
#31
Against harass-ers I guess a big difference would be that even if they walk faster, if you can reach the bush where they don't want to follow you (Teemo, Nid, etc.) then the MS buff doesn't mean much to them.
Another thing that bothers me a bit is that 2s is really short, so even if you kill a minion for the big buff you won't reach that much farther unless you have a decent aa animation (esp. the wind-up) and you cancel it immediatly after.

Gauntlet still slows, while Triforce only speeds you up, I think Gauntlet still has its niche (like it's more important for Vi to slow people than speed herself up because of how often her targets will have blue buff or a mean to slow her on top of their escape move, and she'll often draw cc to herself anyway, heaily negating the Rage passive).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2013 23:31 GMT
#32
On August 22 2013 08:17 upperbound wrote:
Who is this guy and why does he have 17k viewers?

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez

Random Singed player NA. Tends to do hardcore AP builds like Lich Bane Singed.

Viewers are suffering from withdrawal with all the regular LCS awol due to playoffs.
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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 21 2013 23:38 GMT
#33
On August 22 2013 08:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 08:17 upperbound wrote:
Who is this guy and why does he have 17k viewers?

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez

Random Singed player NA. Tends to do hardcore AP builds like Lich Bane Singed.

Viewers are suffering from withdrawal with all the regular LCS awol due to playoffs.

He also apparently sings and plays guitar between games.

wtf am i watching
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#34
On August 22 2013 07:29 SidianTheBard wrote:
Mmm, can't wait to play Jax with these Trinity Force changes.

very first thing I thought as well. Especially with the nerf to Bork, I imagine tri force will be the first big damage buy for jax now.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#35
huh thats the dude that made want to play singed hes so good
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
August 21 2013 23:45 GMT
#36
oh my god irelia is going to be sooooooooo fucking broken this patch.
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
August 21 2013 23:46 GMT
#37
Screw Zephyr, Triforce new AD 7th item, if not better.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 23:46:59
August 21 2013 23:46 GMT
#38
I'm a bit confused by the twitch change. I feel like he absolutely needs to have an aggressive early game to survive for the late game. This change is a lot more important than it looks. I wouldn't be surprised if people dropped twitch entirely, and just stick with caitlyn, graves, and ezreal again.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 21 2013 23:46 GMT
#39
Zac will still be A tier.
@miicah88
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 23:49:51
August 21 2013 23:49 GMT
#40
On August 22 2013 08:46 miicah wrote:
Zac will still be A tier.

That's probably the most questionable of the set of changes, but small tweaks instead of castrations are fine. A more modest approach into Riot's big tourney season is totally defensible.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
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