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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 06 2013 10:57 GMT
#2501
On August 06 2013 18:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 18:03 JazzVortical wrote:
Just noticed something odd when looking at the free champ rotation. Anivia has the support tag but Lissandra doesn't. If Anivia gets the support tag then surely Lissandra would too, right?


we've long established that many of riot's champion classifications are dubious at best


I was hoping the change in the champ tags would clear up that problem. Guess it still exists.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 06 2013 11:15 GMT
#2502
my reddit enhancement suit suddenly disappeared over night halp plz
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
August 06 2013 11:49 GMT
#2503
On August 06 2013 20:15 AsnSensation wrote:
my reddit enhancement suit suddenly disappeared over night halp plz


Need to give it permission, as it has changed a couple of things. Top right corner menu (on google chrome) and re-allow it. Should be an option for it on the main menu, and it should be orange in the top right to let you know that it needs updated permissions.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 06 2013 11:58 GMT
#2504
On August 06 2013 20:15 AsnSensation wrote:
my reddit enhancement suit suddenly disappeared over night halp plz


For some reason I pictured an astronaut suit and was wondering if you were being serious, and was thoroughly disappointed to find out it wasn't a physical suit.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
August 06 2013 12:34 GMT
#2505
zyra with liandry's is so strong
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 06 2013 12:59 GMT
#2506
On August 06 2013 16:06 ReketSomething wrote:
If you are paying for lessons from DL though, you are paying for quality time with your favorite player not necessarily to learn and get better. It's also so those willing to spend money can't complain about DL not offering lessons. The key is time spent with DL not actually getting better.


Idunno if you'd call it quality time.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 06 2013 13:00 GMT
#2507
Same with Rylai, spellvamp, and/or anything else applied as an on-ability effect because her plants do it with every auto.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 13:06:39
August 06 2013 13:04 GMT
#2508
zyra plants hurt A LOT, i never understood why they never nerfed it i still think zyra is broken as fk
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
August 06 2013 13:08 GMT
#2509
On August 06 2013 22:04 kongoline wrote:
zyra plants hurt A LOT, i never understood why they never nerfed it i still think zyra is broken as fk


Did you play against the "burning bush zyra"? :D

Zyra built on-hit. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jshpe/just_played_with_a_rioter_who_built_zyra_in_an/
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 13:38:17
August 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#2510
Zyra's plant damage is 32-136, with up to 4 plants at a time (if you can set up the fight area, otherwise it's more likely to be 2), although from the 2nd plant onward they only deal 50% damage when attacking the same target. They also have 0.8 AS buffed to 1.2 by her ult.

Then you add in on-abilities effects applied by every attack (imagine if Heimer's turrets did that, that was what shocked me most when she came out) and a 0.2 AP ratio.

Zyra does a lot of damage, even if you 100-0 her right after her rotation the plants will keep attacking (contrary to Tibbers, Heimer's turrets, and Viktor's ult although this was a release bug). I remember a bit after release my team mispositioned at nashor, people scattered to chase/disengage, and I died with noone around. Wondering, I opened up the death recap, and it turned out I was pretty much 80-0'd in less than 5s by 2 plants as Orianna (around 100 MR with the ball on) after a teammate attacked by them flashed out and I received the aggro.
Don't let her spells' ratio fool you, unless you hit them on 3+ people consistently the plants do most of your damage.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2013 13:44 GMT
#2511
Aw man I sleep and miss the Diana talk after playing her a bunch. She's such a fun character with cool lore~
It's your boy Guzma!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 06 2013 14:00 GMT
#2512
Diana is one the champs with lowest winrate LOL. It's amazing how slow people were to understand that she's really bad. Even after she got nerfed, she was FotM for like 2 weeks still and she had about 46% winrate chance, like the 3rd lowest after Urgot and Karma or something, despite being picked like 20% of the time ahaha
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 06 2013 14:02 GMT
#2513
Because when you're having fun and going ham it's worth it even if you lose
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 06 2013 14:02 GMT
#2514
What makes her bad? She's got a lot of good lane match-up, can go both mid and off-lane, can farm even when behind thanks to low-cost Q, and if you build her tanky enough she still has strong base damage while being able to initiate relatively well by diving into the enemy team.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2013 14:09 GMT
#2515
On August 06 2013 23:00 Scip wrote:
Diana is one the champs with lowest winrate LOL. It's amazing how slow people were to understand that she's really bad. Even after she got nerfed, she was FotM for like 2 weeks still and she had about 46% winrate chance, like the 3rd lowest after Urgot and Karma or something, despite being picked like 20% of the time ahaha

Solo queue Challenger:

7.21% pick rate

56.25% win rate

uh... low? Scip you drunks or smthng?
It's your boy Guzma!
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 14:16:11
August 06 2013 14:11 GMT
#2516
i think diana is quite good as a jack of all trades initiator

just listing the first strengths to come to mind to go into a bit more detail: many good lane matchups and no truly bad ones in either top or mid, one of the best teleport users in the game, good splitpush and teamfighting, relevant damage throughout the game, strong and easy flanking and general initiate

diana jungle is another matter entirely though
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 14:28:23
August 06 2013 14:26 GMT
#2517
I usually use diamond instead of challenger when the daily amount of games in challenger are about 20ish or so. She has consistently below 50% winrate in diamond for like, past 2 weeks.

5th lowest diamond weekly winrate champion, just above Olaf, Heimerdinger, Urgot and Alistar.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 14:38:00
August 06 2013 14:36 GMT
#2518
gragas is very similar to diana in that regard, but he isn't a bad champion either

on the flip side, brand and fiora are among the winningest champs in diamond this week (albeit with low pick rates)

win rates are definitely something to consider when rating a champion but are not conclusive on their own. in diana's case, i would suggest that her strengths are best utilized in organized play, which has been the case in the past for champions with strong competitive performance but not much soloq success
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#2519
Teemo is also 7th winningest champion in Diamond in the past week, so imba :3
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 06 2013 14:46 GMT
#2520
Man I haven't played Leona in so long I suck with her now, plus people get wary instead of pushing so with the wave so much closer to their turret it's hard to initiate in lane pre-6 (unless you're with Graves, MF or another bursty champ). Plus I suck at hitting my Es. Got carried instead of the other way around this game. T_T

Gotta spam her to re-practice.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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