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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 23:54:09
July 15 2013 23:53 GMT
#1821
Glad Ryze is being nerfed.

Where are the Elise nerfs??

rip aegis wtf
TranslatorBaa!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 15 2013 23:54 GMT
#1822
On July 16 2013 08:41 Whitejack wrote:
Has this been mentioned yet?

http://www.newsoflegends.com/index.php/pbe-jayceolafaegislocket-new-item-icons-queue-dodge-penalty-hired-gun-lucian-patch-3-9-issue-and-the-new-sale-10755/

Ryze nerfed pretty hard imo, his range was pretty necessary to be the strong champion he is. And Aegis now useless.. Seems really bad.

Yeah, his spells goes from standard/Graves/Ashe AA range (550AA/650ish Spell) to Sivir tier (500AA/600Spell) across the board. That gimps him pretty hard, actually.

On the flip side, however, those are some pretty hefty MS buffs, both passive and on his ulti.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 15 2013 23:58 GMT
#1823
So what do you get for MR now as a bruiser as Aegis is useless and spirit visage is nerfed as well?

There is already double ap in so many games now.

Off-season = best season
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#1824
There is so much shit in the game with HP/5 and Mana/5 and it all blows. No one really gives a damn about regen stats.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#1825
On July 16 2013 08:58 Redox wrote:
So what do you get for MR now as a bruiser as Aegis is useless and spirit visage is nerfed as well?

There is already double ap in so many games now.



Only play Singed, get abyssal.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 16 2013 00:06 GMT
#1826
On July 16 2013 08:58 Redox wrote:
So what do you get for MR now as a bruiser as Aegis is useless and spirit visage is nerfed as well?

There is already double ap in so many games now.


Aren't they coming out with a couple of new MR items? I can't find the link atm but I remember at least one of them being really good
Jaedong :D
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 16 2013 00:07 GMT
#1827
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

^^^ only site that does PBE changelogs right imo

notice

Spirit Visage
Total cost increased to 2625 from 2200
Health increased to 400 from 200
Magic Resist increased to 55 from 50.
Now grants +20 health regen per 5 seconds.
Recipe now includes Spectre's Cowl

HUGE buff

also there's the new veil
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 00:08:28
July 16 2013 00:08 GMT
#1828
On July 16 2013 09:05 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 08:58 Redox wrote:
So what do you get for MR now as a bruiser as Aegis is useless and spirit visage is nerfed as well?

There is already double ap in so many games now.



Only play Singed, get abyssal.


Dont understand where you fit abyssal after boots seraphs 4x RoA
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 16 2013 00:08 GMT
#1829
On July 16 2013 09:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

^^^ only site that does PBE changelogs right imo

notice

Spirit Visage
Total cost increased to 2625 from 2200
Health increased to 400 from 200
Magic Resist increased to 55 from 50.
Now grants +20 health regen per 5 seconds.
Recipe now includes Spectre's Cowl

HUGE buff

also there's the new veil

Teemo save us.

It was cost-efficient before, now it's pretty slot efficient too.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Banishment
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany102 Posts
July 16 2013 00:12 GMT
#1830
Those are the worst Patchnotes ive ever seen, honestly. Olaf would be incredibly overpowered and Ryze got gutted... Sure, the Msboost ist nice and I kinda get what they are trying to achieve with it, but Ryze is already very weak against certain champs, with the range nerf he is basically unplayable against most champs :/. Which is sad because hes one of the few midchamps i actually liked.

But even worse: The item changes are a fucking joke. Bulwark removed, aegis useless, can be built into a useless Locket --> WTF? Thats two items I really liked on my junglers which are now entirely useless. What the fuck were they thinking? This is bad, just bad. The spirit visage change is reasonable I guess. But what are they trying to achieve with this? Is MR too cheap in their opinion? Is Riot trying to tackle five attackdamage champion lineups by reducing the amount of easily available MR? I dont get it -_-.

Those changes look awful at first sight.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 00:16:17
July 16 2013 00:14 GMT
#1831
On July 16 2013 09:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

^^^ only site that does PBE changelogs right imo

notice

Spirit Visage
Total cost increased to 2625 from 2200
Health increased to 400 from 200
Magic Resist increased to 55 from 50.
Now grants +20 health regen per 5 seconds.
Recipe now includes Spectre's Cowl

HUGE buff

also there's the new veil

Teemo save us.

It was cost-efficient before, now it's pretty slot efficient too.


actually it's not very cost efficient atm, although it certainly will be if those stats go through.

to be clear, right now, don't buy this item, unless you've got a crazy amount of tie-in with the passive.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 16 2013 00:14 GMT
#1832
On July 16 2013 08:58 Redox wrote:
So what do you get for MR now as a bruiser as Aegis is useless and spirit visage is nerfed as well?

There is already double ap in so many games now.




RIOT enforcing the changes, soon Banshee's Veil will rein again!
hi
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 00:17:27
July 16 2013 00:17 GMT
#1833
Riot wrongfully believes that people don't buy other support items because Aegis and Locket are too good--when in reality people don't buy other support items because those items are awful.
Moderator
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 16 2013 00:18 GMT
#1834
those aren't mutually exclusive :<
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 16 2013 00:19 GMT
#1835
On July 16 2013 09:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 16 2013 09:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

^^^ only site that does PBE changelogs right imo

notice

Spirit Visage
Total cost increased to 2625 from 2200
Health increased to 400 from 200
Magic Resist increased to 55 from 50.
Now grants +20 health regen per 5 seconds.
Recipe now includes Spectre's Cowl

HUGE buff

also there's the new veil

Teemo save us.

It was cost-efficient before, now it's pretty slot efficient too.


actually it's not very cost efficient atm, although it certainly will be if those stats go through.

to be clear, right now, don't buy this item, unless you've got a crazy amount of tie-in with the passive.

New Spirit Visage will absolutely be cost effective
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 16 2013 00:20 GMT
#1836
On July 16 2013 09:18 UniversalSnip wrote:
those aren't mutually exclusive :<

They aren't but I maintain that the first one is untrue anyway.
Moderator
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 16 2013 00:23 GMT
#1837
Is there something missing wherein the 2 new items were needed? Cowl just seems to me to do nothing different than the modern negatron, and does Hexdrinker really need a good upgrade? Shouldn't they be nerfing Torment and Cleaver instead?
Freeeeeeedom
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 00:29:58
July 16 2013 00:27 GMT
#1838
On July 16 2013 09:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 16 2013 09:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 16 2013 09:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

^^^ only site that does PBE changelogs right imo

notice

Spirit Visage
Total cost increased to 2625 from 2200
Health increased to 400 from 200
Magic Resist increased to 55 from 50.
Now grants +20 health regen per 5 seconds.
Recipe now includes Spectre's Cowl

HUGE buff

also there's the new veil

Teemo save us.

It was cost-efficient before, now it's pretty slot efficient too.


actually it's not very cost efficient atm, although it certainly will be if those stats go through.

to be clear, right now, don't buy this item, unless you've got a crazy amount of tie-in with the passive.

New Spirit Visage will absolutely be cost effective


think you misread me

On July 16 2013 09:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:18 UniversalSnip wrote:
those aren't mutually exclusive :<

They aren't but I maintain that the first one is untrue anyway.


let's rephrase this: rather than being 'overpowered', and you always want the power level of the game to go up generally so I know that won't fly, consider it in terms of offering opportunities for decisions. Aegis and locket offer no decision making because there's no specificity to the choice to buy them. The question you ask is essentially 'am I playing league of legends?'. If you are, rank the members of your team from best to worst carrier and have the best buy it. So in that sense, they absolutely crowd out other options, even if they're not above the power curve. The design of this game - and dota does this too so you can be ok with it - chafes against generalist items like this.

On July 16 2013 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Shouldn't they be nerfing Torment and Cleaver instead?


... what?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 16 2013 00:28 GMT
#1839
I understand the the strength of Ryze and how this patch will butcher him, and I mean absolutely butcher him. It's completely unwarranted. He may deserve a slight knock on the head but not a grand slam with the nerf hammer.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 16 2013 00:33 GMT
#1840
Hm Spectres Cowl actually seems really good. I guess this is supposed to help bruisers lane against mages.
Off-season = best season
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