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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2013 16:50 GMT
#5681
You guys are boring me.
Damn.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 26 2013 16:51 GMT
#5682
On July 26 2013 22:55 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 22:54 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On July 26 2013 22:39 Sufficiency wrote:
I still need someone to play a ranked game on my account... I dont care if you win or lose... just want to stop decays... hopefully a regular here I can trust.

I could help you out but I'm sure there's someone more trustworthy, like Requizen, who always sticks to his guns. Hue.


I wouldn't mind doing it Suff. PM me.


Thank you.... please do it today though I think it will be two weeks tom9rrow...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 26 2013 16:51 GMT
#5683
On July 27 2013 01:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
You guys are boring me.
Damn.

Don't worry bb i can keep you interested all day long

+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +
<3

+ Show Spoiler +
plz don't ban
It's your boy Guzma!
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
July 26 2013 17:03 GMT
#5684
@Req:

I'm working on the liss thread. sorry i'm sooo slow! I really should have finished ages ago when I didn't have any work to do...

On items, I think you're overestimating Lissandra's need for mana -- I think you can get away with less mana-intensive item choices like Flask, Doran's Rings, or Morellonomicon, rather than getting Tear/Chalice/Rod of Ages. I've found that when I'm guzzling through my mana it usually means I'm spamming Q mindlessly and frequently missing rather than waiting for good opportunities where I know I can land them.

I agree that Q max is generally good vs melees because you have a lot more opportunities to harass, at least pre-6 (so maybe you want a couple early points in Q to bully her pre-6 and then max E since from what I remember the one time I practiced lane vs. Diana, the post-6 is fairly hard for Lissandra
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 26 2013 17:09 GMT
#5685
On July 27 2013 01:42 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:33 Gahlo wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:00 Jerubaal wrote:
On July 26 2013 16:51 wei2coolman wrote:
DORA THE EXPLORER. EVERYTIME.

AGAIN.


Let's talk about periods.

:p

Only if the discussion happens, at most, once a month.

I don't think we're on the same wavelength, but I think the frequency is a little bit high.

Amplitude.


im out of phase with this whole thing
cant we be more constructive guys
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 26 2013 17:12 GMT
#5686
On July 26 2013 23:15 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 23:00 Clinic wrote:
psa everybody who wants to watch good pro games should check out the blaze v ctu set from ogn today

Can't ruin NA LCS for me bro. No Sir!

What he said. As long as I'm entertained I'd assert it's a "good" game of LoL. Whether or not it's impressive is another story haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
July 26 2013 17:14 GMT
#5687
When you're jungling and one lane is losing hard, what should you do? I've been told alot to snowball other lanes, but I just had a game where i was j4 and we had janna varus vs nami vayne and the vayne got super duper fed. I came bot a few times but she could just tumble away from my slows/knockup/ulti. I ended up getting 1 kill bot, and snowballed mid and top pretty hard. In the end however, even with a uselss jungler and mid/top, the vayne just ended up killing everything forever anyway.

This is a tough situation for me. My logic says if the players are bad, dont waste your time trying to help them out and risk feeding the other guy harder. However, with the situation of some champions (akali, hyper carry ADC's, diana, etc) they can just snowball your game really hard. What do you do in these situations?
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 26 2013 17:19 GMT
#5688
On July 27 2013 02:14 Arisen wrote:
When you're jungling and one lane is losing hard, what should you do? I've been told alot to snowball other lanes, but I just had a game where i was j4 and we had janna varus vs nami vayne and the vayne got super duper fed. I came bot a few times but she could just tumble away from my slows/knockup/ulti. I ended up getting 1 kill bot, and snowballed mid and top pretty hard. In the end however, even with a uselss jungler and mid/top, the vayne just ended up killing everything forever anyway.

This is a tough situation for me. My logic says if the players are bad, dont waste your time trying to help them out and risk feeding the other guy harder. However, with the situation of some champions (akali, hyper carry ADC's, diana, etc) they can just snowball your game really hard. What do you do in these situations?

When one lane is getting murdered, I leave it to rot and focus on snowballing the other two lanes and if it's someone like akali/diana you wait until they inevitably throw like all yolo queue fed assassins do. If it's a hyper carry normally I call for a mass gank of them from my experience they'll extend further than safe thinking they're too strong to get killed.
Glorious SEA doto
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 17:29:32
July 26 2013 17:20 GMT
#5689
On July 27 2013 02:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 23:15 Haiq343 wrote:
On July 26 2013 23:00 Clinic wrote:
psa everybody who wants to watch good pro games should check out the blaze v ctu set from ogn today

Can't ruin NA LCS for me bro. No Sir!

What he said. As long as I'm entertained I'd assert it's a "good" game of LoL. Whether or not it's impressive is another story haha.

Should still watch Blaze v CTU!

Rebroadcast is on game2 of Jin Air Falcons v Xenics Blast right now, after this the Blaze v CTU set begins.

This game should be interesting too though, with a Sejuani mid on Blast and Falcons are running Fizz Jungle, Top laner Miso playing vayne in the duo, ADC Raven playing Zed mid, and mid laner Roar on jax.

And so, wackiness ensues.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 26 2013 17:21 GMT
#5690
I've only gotten RoA on Liss because the extra health helps me survive when I go in. If I don't, I usually get blown up if I try any combination of E, W, Zhonya's and R. It's less for mana and more for survivability.

However, I usually play Liss top where Seeker's/Zhonya's first is a likely necessity, so I don't go RoA there and just get 1 or 2 DRs.

For whatever reason, almost all the Liss tops I've played were versus Singed.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 26 2013 17:22 GMT
#5691
will there be NA LCS today? Got my wisdom teeth pulled out and need to just be a vegetable for a few days, would be nice to watch something while i do that
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 17:25:09
July 26 2013 17:23 GMT
#5692
On July 27 2013 02:22 Nos- wrote:
will there be NA LCS today? Got my wisdom teeth pulled out and need to just be a vegetable for a few days, would be nice to watch something while i do that

Ye it's starting in two and a half hours. It's on the calender.
Watching the G2 of jin air vs blast restream, I swear in these troll games it's always the supports who tryhard
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 26 2013 17:27 GMT
#5693
On July 27 2013 02:23 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 02:22 Nos- wrote:
will there be NA LCS today? Got my wisdom teeth pulled out and need to just be a vegetable for a few days, would be nice to watch something while i do that

Ye it's starting in two and a half hours. It's on the calender.
Watching the G2 of jin air vs blast restream, I swear in these troll games it's always the supports who tryhard


Is that time right? I thought it normally starts 00:00 CAT on Fridays.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 26 2013 17:27 GMT
#5694
On July 27 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 01:42 kainzero wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:33 Gahlo wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:00 Jerubaal wrote:
On July 26 2013 16:51 wei2coolman wrote:
DORA THE EXPLORER. EVERYTIME.

AGAIN.


Let's talk about periods.

:p

Only if the discussion happens, at most, once a month.

I don't think we're on the same wavelength, but I think the frequency is a little bit high.

Amplitude.


im out of phase with this whole thing
cant we be more constructive guys

You're interfering with the conversation. We should allow all nodes of communication to express freely.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#5695
On July 27 2013 02:20 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 02:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 26 2013 23:15 Haiq343 wrote:
On July 26 2013 23:00 Clinic wrote:
psa everybody who wants to watch good pro games should check out the blaze v ctu set from ogn today

Can't ruin NA LCS for me bro. No Sir!

What he said. As long as I'm entertained I'd assert it's a "good" game of LoL. Whether or not it's impressive is another story haha.

Should still watch Blaze v CTU!

Rebroadcast is on game2 of Jin Air Falcons v Xenics Blast right now, after this the Blaze v CTU set begins.

Well I'm still gonna watch it, I just needed to defend NA lol. Surprised those games were so good. Guess CTU deserves the spot more than Sword.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 26 2013 17:31 GMT
#5696
On July 27 2013 02:27 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 02:23 Fusilero wrote:
On July 27 2013 02:22 Nos- wrote:
will there be NA LCS today? Got my wisdom teeth pulled out and need to just be a vegetable for a few days, would be nice to watch something while i do that

Ye it's starting in two and a half hours. It's on the calender.
Watching the G2 of jin air vs blast restream, I swear in these troll games it's always the supports who tryhard


Is that time right? I thought it normally starts 00:00 CAT on Fridays.

Says it starting at that time on the na lolesports page.
Glorious SEA doto
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 26 2013 17:31 GMT
#5697
On July 27 2013 02:27 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:42 kainzero wrote:
On July 27 2013 01:33 Gahlo wrote:
On July 27 2013 00:00 Jerubaal wrote:
On July 26 2013 16:51 wei2coolman wrote:
DORA THE EXPLORER. EVERYTIME.

AGAIN.


Let's talk about periods.

:p

Only if the discussion happens, at most, once a month.

I don't think we're on the same wavelength, but I think the frequency is a little bit high.

Amplitude.


im out of phase with this whole thing
cant we be more constructive guys

You're interfering with the conversation. We should allow all nodes of communication to express freely.


im not prepared to accept any feedback
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 26 2013 17:33 GMT
#5698
On July 27 2013 02:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 02:27 Numy wrote:
On July 27 2013 02:23 Fusilero wrote:
On July 27 2013 02:22 Nos- wrote:
will there be NA LCS today? Got my wisdom teeth pulled out and need to just be a vegetable for a few days, would be nice to watch something while i do that

Ye it's starting in two and a half hours. It's on the calender.
Watching the G2 of jin air vs blast restream, I swear in these troll games it's always the supports who tryhard


Is that time right? I thought it normally starts 00:00 CAT on Fridays.

Says it starting at that time on the na lolesports page.


Cool thanks I always forget about that site. Wonder why they shifting times so much this season.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
July 26 2013 17:41 GMT
#5699
is there going to be a separate thread for organizing tl ihs?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 17:44:56
July 26 2013 17:44 GMT
#5700
I believe Neo is working on a separate post about it.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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