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Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
July 21 2013 17:48 GMT
#3481
On July 21 2013 12:44 BrokenMirage wrote:
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On July 21 2013 12:23 Fusilero wrote:
This is a random question that just came into my mind after game 1 of ozone vs xenics. How would karthus' passive and yorick ult interact?


Yorick's ult comes first, so when Karthus dies, Karthus is resurrected, and after the clone runs out, the passive activates.


Karthus wil zil ult, yorik ult and ga sounds like fun
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 21 2013 17:54 GMT
#3482
On July 22 2013 02:21 Vanka wrote:
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On July 22 2013 01:37 Gahlo wrote:
On July 22 2013 01:35 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Two things:

1) Why is double AD so popular all the sudden?
2) Leona Top, how to play well? I've been messing around, but I'm having really hard time just csing w/o sunfire...

1) Excellent at pushing towers when coordinated. Ezreal is in a state where you don't run into the normal double ad pitfalls.
2) I've never seen a compelling reason to do it. You're depending on your jungler to win your lane for you.


Time your shield explode well, and never forget your auto reset will let you kill three minions in quick sucession.

Incidently, I realize that your two questions were unrelated, double ad would be a compelling reason to run leona top. Leona tanks very well, but also needs a threshold of gold to do so (usually aegis or locket as support), before farm is useless on her, which situates her well as a 3/4 position top (you can run an farm-happy jungler too).

The passive proc helps make up for the lack of magic damage with double ad, and if laning phase is long you could just switch the jungler to top lane and let the leona gank

EDIT: by time your shield well, I mean while it's setting up, try autoing creeps to get them low, so you'll knock out multiple creeps with the aoe


A fun way to kill wards without dropping pinks. Makes people rage and accuse you of hacks.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#3483
Any suggestions for a good mouse that's relatively cheap as I have like no money after needing to buy a new phone?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 21 2013 18:13 GMT
#3484
On July 22 2013 03:11 BlackPaladin wrote:
Any suggestions for a good mouse that's relatively cheap as I have like no money after needing to buy a new phone?

Logitech Mini Optical
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 18:17:56
July 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#3485
My hand also isn't midget sized. And by relatively cheap I just mean like, not a fucking $100 mouse with 30 different buttons I will never need since I don't play any mmo's. Just looking for good reviews =)
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 21 2013 18:19 GMT
#3486
On July 22 2013 03:11 BlackPaladin wrote:
Any suggestions for a good mouse that's relatively cheap as I have like no money after needing to buy a new phone?

Logitech G400. So happy with it, especially for that price.
Off-season = best season
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#3487
Logitech M100 is my favorite simple mouse
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 21 2013 18:23 GMT
#3488
On July 22 2013 03:19 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 03:11 BlackPaladin wrote:
Any suggestions for a good mouse that's relatively cheap as I have like no money after needing to buy a new phone?

Logitech G400. So happy with it, especially for that price.

That's what I use too, pretty happy with it.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 21 2013 18:24 GMT
#3489
I think MX 518 is the best mouse of all time, my old one work super fine for about 5 years I think it it still does but switched to Razer CLG deathadder a while ago, not sure if it's still produced though.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 21 2013 18:29 GMT
#3490
Damn 100k viewers for the Brazilian LoL championship, casted in Portuguese. Seems like Brazil is becoming a real LoL stronghold.
Off-season = best season
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 21 2013 18:36 GMT
#3491
Leona is all about the shield. Use it to try CS and harrass at the same time, if you manage to catch them with the damage, go aggressive with the E-Q and trade. If you miss, pick up the remaining CS.

Her auto animation sucks but the shield procs her passive and does enough damage to make up for it.

At least, this is what i do when im support leona without my ADC in lane. (U know those situations where its supp v supp and ur both tryna CS :-D)
Useless wet fish.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 21 2013 18:36 GMT
#3492
On July 22 2013 03:24 AsnSensation wrote:
I think MX 518 is the best mouse of all time, my old one work super fine for about 5 years I think it it still does but switched to Razer CLG deathadder a while ago, not sure if it's still produced though.

Yea MX518 was the best mouse of all time. I had it for years. But then it just died one day. That too after they stopped manufacturing it. Fk
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 21 2013 18:37 GMT
#3493
While we're on the topic, what are good mechanical keyboards? I've been using the Dell default one that came with my previous PC for years.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 18:40:27
July 21 2013 18:38 GMT
#3494
I got my MX518 about six years ago, I think, and it's still going strong. It's literally the only gaming mouse I've ever bought-- I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do when it finally dies

EDIT: As far as mechanical keyboards go, I really *really* like my das ultimate brown. I'm sure people who know more about that stuff can point you to options that are a little more price efficient, though
:3
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 21 2013 18:39 GMT
#3495
On July 22 2013 03:37 Requizen wrote:
While we're on the topic, what are good mechanical keyboards? I've been using the Dell default one that came with my previous PC for years.


I like real minimalist stuff. I have a Filco tenkeyless, with browns. Cost me about 70 bucks.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 18:42:12
July 21 2013 18:41 GMT
#3496
my stuff atm is a brown switch quickfire tk and razer abyssus both i think are awesome
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#3497
Also using the MX518 myself. Amazing and simple gaming mouse that has worked for years without any problems. Otherwise I'd recommend the Razer Deathadder
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
July 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#3498
On July 22 2013 03:38 Eiii wrote:
I got my MX518 about six years ago, I think, and it's still going strong. It's literally the only gaming mouse I've ever bought-- I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do when it finally dies



Buy another one. Ive had several different mice but I don't think any of them have really been as good as the mx518. Whenever my steelseries sensei dies I'm probably going back to an mx518. And my qpad which my sensei won't run on :/
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 21 2013 19:02 GMT
#3499
Why is Rammus bad against double AD? I mean, other than that he is just bad.
Freeeeeeedom
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 21 2013 19:06 GMT
#3500
On July 22 2013 03:36 Capped wrote:
Leona is all about the shield. Use it to try CS and harrass at the same time, if you manage to catch them with the damage, go aggressive with the E-Q and trade. If you miss, pick up the remaining CS.

Her auto animation sucks but the shield procs her passive and does enough damage to make up for it.

At least, this is what i do when im support leona without my ADC in lane. (U know those situations where its supp v supp and ur both tryna CS :-D)



Noob

Support leona for beginners:

Abuse brushes lvl 1, get off a Q on the enemy support, win trade cus op

Get lvl 2, go all-in, use ignite, FB

Get lvl 3, go all-in, 2 kills

You win at life
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