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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23443 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 15:09:15
July 21 2013 15:08 GMT
#3461

On July 22 2013 00:07 Scip wrote:
too bad rammus kinda sucks against double AD which seems to be getting more and more popular


who doesnt
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 21 2013 15:08 GMT
#3462
On July 21 2013 23:31 Slayer91 wrote:
or they got neither of those and adc with qss amirite


What's qss?

P.S Silver league
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 21 2013 15:12 GMT
#3463
On July 22 2013 00:08 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 23:31 Slayer91 wrote:
or they got neither of those and adc with qss amirite


What's qss?

P.S Silver league

Quicksilver Sash. MR/anti-cc item.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 21 2013 15:14 GMT
#3464
On July 22 2013 00:12 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 00:08 Zhiroo wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:31 Slayer91 wrote:
or they got neither of those and adc with qss amirite


What's qss?

P.S Silver league

Quicksilver Sash. MR/anti-cc item.

I think the joke was that it doesn't exist on Marksmen in Silver.
It's your boy Guzma!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#3465
fiddlestix might not suck against double AD, maybe Amumu for sick engages? idk, double AD super strong
someone tell doublelift that he is doubly wrong
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 15:17:16
July 21 2013 15:17 GMT
#3466
What kind of double ad comps are you talking about?I have yet to see one that doesn't have an ez mid.

Probably haven't played vs a good one yet cause all of em seem to suck.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 15:19:06
July 21 2013 15:18 GMT
#3467
On July 22 2013 00:17 nafta wrote:
What kind of double ad comps are you talking about?I have yet to see one that doesn't have an ez mid.

Probably haven't played vs a good one yet cause all of em seem to suck.


I think EG ran twitch mid cait bot in the LCS this week.

Edit: and CLG did vayne top, twitch bot.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 21 2013 15:20 GMT
#3468
Yeah I watched those games but honestly both were mostly throws so wouldn't really take em as good examples.

Was asking more for soloq too tbh
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2013 15:26 GMT
#3469
yeah, ez mid counts as double AD. Twitch can work, one Corki guy has been terrorizing challanger soloQ for a few days now. I've seen caitlyn used too but not sure if she's good.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 15:38:28
July 21 2013 15:35 GMT
#3470
I've met a ton of bad quinn tops lately (shitty builds and bad teamfighting etc). I guess when someone actually good starts to do it then more capable ppl start to pick her up and learn how she works. also its pretty fun how you can setup a team with very badly balanced damage types and still do very well. This is a good thing imo because the whole magical vs physical damage thing doesn't add any depth whatsoever.

the damage types in wc3 made sense because you wanted to protect heroes from ranged attacks and spells more than generic units. but in dota and lol it actually doesn't add anything to the game that is truly interesting.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 21 2013 15:40 GMT
#3471
I strongly disagree with mixed damage adding little depth, I don't think the difference is even under powered, it's just in a good place.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 21 2013 15:52 GMT
#3472
On July 22 2013 00:26 Scip wrote:
yeah, ez mid counts as double AD. Twitch can work, one Corki guy has been terrorizing challanger soloQ for a few days now. I've seen caitlyn used too but not sure if she's good.

Care to say who? Pretty curious to see how Corki's played nowadays and since we can spectate challenger people now...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 21 2013 15:53 GMT
#3473
i have to rephrase: as long as the damage type system adds tradeoffs and options then it also adds depth. We agree on it being in a pretty good place right now. I think when you can decide between a pick that adds more to the comp from with his kit but shifts the damage type stongly in one direction then its a good system, but I would rather have the damage type system removed when it wasn't a real decision and you had to pick another champ because of the type system.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2013 15:57 GMT
#3474
On July 22 2013 00:52 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 00:26 Scip wrote:
yeah, ez mid counts as double AD. Twitch can work, one Corki guy has been terrorizing challanger soloQ for a few days now. I've seen caitlyn used too but not sure if she's good.

Care to say who? Pretty curious to see how Corki's played nowadays and since we can spectate challenger people now...

dont remember name, he's just very high diamond1 though

Il look for it after go4lol
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 21 2013 16:31 GMT
#3475
On July 21 2013 13:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
topdyr is only a pubstomp because it is absolutely worthless in a lane swap.

who lane swaps in solo queue?

I DO. Pick tryn. They pick malphite, lane swap, send the ap mid to the 2v1, I get mid against kassadin. Easiest game ever.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
July 21 2013 16:31 GMT
#3476
Hopefully new champ comes out this week, pretty stoked to play him. Driving long distances sucks.... Half way to Prince George to start a new job. ZzzzzzZzzZzzzZzz (for reference I started in chilliwack near Vancouver. It's an 8 hour drive)
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#3477
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 16:38:16
July 21 2013 16:37 GMT
#3478
On July 22 2013 01:35 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Two things:

1) Why is double AD so popular all the sudden?
2) Leona Top, how to play well? I've been messing around, but I'm having really hard time just csing w/o sunfire...

1) Excellent at pushing towers when coordinated. Ezreal is in a state where you don't run into the normal double ad pitfalls.
2) I've never seen a compelling reason to do it. You're depending on your jungler to win your lane for you.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 21 2013 17:09 GMT
#3479
On July 22 2013 00:17 nafta wrote:
What kind of double ad comps are you talking about?I have yet to see one that doesn't have an ez mid.

Probably haven't played vs a good one yet cause all of em seem to suck.



Hyper-carry bot-lane (cait/vayne/trist very popular atm) combined with quinn/twitch/ezreal.
hi
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 17:47:21
July 21 2013 17:21 GMT
#3480
On July 22 2013 01:37 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 01:35 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Two things:

1) Why is double AD so popular all the sudden?
2) Leona Top, how to play well? I've been messing around, but I'm having really hard time just csing w/o sunfire...

1) Excellent at pushing towers when coordinated. Ezreal is in a state where you don't run into the normal double ad pitfalls.
2) I've never seen a compelling reason to do it. You're depending on your jungler to win your lane for you.


Time your shield explode well, and never forget your auto reset will let you kill three minions in quick sucession.

Incidently, I realize that your two questions were unrelated, double ad would be a compelling reason to run leona top. Leona tanks very well, but also needs a threshold of gold to do so (usually aegis or locket as support), before farm is useless on her, which situates her well as a 3/4 position top (you can run an farm-happy jungler too).

The passive proc helps make up for the lack of magic damage with double ad, and if laning phase is long you could just switch the jungler to top lane and let the leona gank

EDIT: by time your shield well, I mean while it's setting up, try autoing creeps to get them low, so you'll knock out multiple creeps with the aoe
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