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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
July 06 2013 16:35 GMT
#6761
On July 07 2013 01:27 TheYango wrote:
I mean there are some champs that are just awkward because of the way the game is played right now (lane swaps, etc.). It's not because they're bad, it's because the game doesn't suit them, and, well, this is fine.

Do people still do lane swaps? i thought that died out when all creeps started spawning at 1:55
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 16:40:23
July 06 2013 16:39 GMT
#6762
On July 07 2013 01:22 TheYango wrote:
The thing with Corki is that you can't run him as a 1st position hero because of how his lategame damage flattens out. This is fine because his baseline skill damage is really high, but it means you have to run a mid or top laner as your first position hero in a long game, and right now lane swaps make many of the suitable top laners for this hard to lane.


This is true. Corki used to have one of the most fantastic mid-game times thanks to the power of triforce/sheen burst, phage slow, and his strong burst damage kit. The nerfs to his mana, the nerfs to triforce all added to his decline. The nails in coffin, really were the league of brusiers, and then arguably even worse league of assassins. Having your power curve peak at the that time point when there's so many champions in the game now who peak at the same time and can subsequently one shot you is really quite crippling.

Additionally, picking a champ who peaks at midgame, but no longer dominates his lane in either a 2v2 or 2v1 situation (considering graves, varus, draven are now in the game who crush him, in addition to the resurgance of cait and mf) is pretty unwise most of the time
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 16:44:44
July 06 2013 16:42 GMT
#6763
No, Corki's fine being strong at that timing. People just need to work out a route of itemization that works out because obviously blindly rushing Triforce/BT doesn't work anymore.

There are a lot of good options for him that haven't been explored fully. Cleaver, Gauntlet, and Elder Lizard all have good interaction with his kit, for example (because SotEL is bugged to apply on Area DoTs, both Valkyrie and Gatling Gun apply it on every tick, in addition to Phospho Bomb and Missiles).
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 06 2013 16:49 GMT
#6764
It's not a bug, SotEL doesn't trigger on DoTs, but the spells you're thinking about are periodic damage, which is different (normally Mordekaiser's W should trigger it too for example, but not Sunfire because it's not a spell).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#6765
Why aren't the ladder page working on LoL's website? Any way to see it elsewhere?
hi
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#6766
Corki with BC is pretty hilarious. Assuming you can stay in range of whoever you're attacking, he melts absolutely everyone.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 06 2013 16:56 GMT
#6767
A red/white/blue or blue build Corki work pretty well, but having to sink 700 gold into Tear is hard. Plus, you can just play Jayce instead of Corki.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 17:02 GMT
#6768
Gawd Damn...

If you are picking up Panth recently due to our GD discussion, be sure to check out Atrioc's new Panth Mid Guide. It's crazy good!
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 06 2013 17:08 GMT
#6769
On July 07 2013 02:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Gawd Damn...

If you are picking up Panth recently due to our GD discussion, be sure to check out Atrioc's new Panth Mid Guide. It's crazy good!

The layout is sick
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 17:10 GMT
#6770
Atrioc is pretty imba from what I've heard.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 06 2013 17:10 GMT
#6771
That is possibly the most beautiful guide ever made.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 17:12 GMT
#6772
On July 07 2013 02:10 Numy wrote:
That is possibly the most beautiful guide ever made.

That fucking venn diagram got me good.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 06 2013 17:13 GMT
#6773
Fuck it got me too. I saw that and instantly wanted to go play Panth but realised I neither have him nor have IP to buy him. What is it about venn diagrams that are just so fucking sexy.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 06 2013 17:14 GMT
#6774
On July 07 2013 02:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Gawd Damn...

If you are picking up Panth recently due to our GD discussion, be sure to check out Atrioc's new Panth Mid Guide. It's crazy good!

It's using the new splash art. Ergo, it could be better.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 06 2013 17:16 GMT
#6775
Can't Jarvan be in the middle of the diagram too?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 17:17 GMT
#6776
On July 07 2013 02:16 obesechicken13 wrote:
Can't Jarvan be in the middle of the diagram too?

psh, get your logic out of here. That diagram is gospel.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 06 2013 17:19 GMT
#6777
What Jarvan isn't cool as fuck though.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 06 2013 17:21 GMT
#6778
Also Vi should be there with Yi. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 17:25 GMT
#6779
On July 07 2013 02:21 Alaric wrote:
Also Vi should be there with Yi. :<

Alaric, I am disappoint.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 17:29:01
July 06 2013 17:26 GMT
#6780
Shaddup you know nothing, who do you play again? >_>

(OT, well, somewhat, damn. Still in the process of reading, and apart from updating the guide being a bitch because of how he did it, gotta give props to the raw amount of time he must have dumped into it. I remember when writing the Vi guide that content isn't all that big in the end (unless you go into complex stuff like advanced match-ups/playstyle) but formatting really takes a lot of time, with pictures and links and stuff. This guide pushed it so far, I'm appalled at how long it must have taken Atrioc.)
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