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Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
June 24 2013 08:10 GMT
#3561
Rappel needs to be cast on the ground, if you hover the mouse over yourself or an ally it will count as targeting the ground and thus is not self-cast. Which means that when you try to self-cast it with hotkeys it won't work.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 24 2013 08:12 GMT
#3562
The stun radius was never nerfed? O.o click before using Q and it never goes the wrong way
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 08:25:42
June 24 2013 08:15 GMT
#3563
Gigabyte is the new sponsor for NicegameTV

Big important news OGN is looking for a second Buffgirl
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 24 2013 09:06 GMT
#3564
What Runes should you run on Mundo?
Split pen red
armor yellow/quints
mr/l blues?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 24 2013 09:08 GMT
#3565
On June 24 2013 18:06 arb wrote:
What Runes should you run on Mundo?
Split pen red
armor yellow/quints
mr/l blues?


For top, split pen red would give max value. I would take flat MR > MR/lvl in a majority of cases. Flat hp5/ MS are the more common options for quints.
cool beans
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 24 2013 09:11 GMT
#3566
On June 24 2013 17:12 Shikyo wrote:
The stun radius was never nerfed? O.o click before using Q and it never goes the wrong way

Huh, tried googling it now and can't find it, wonder where I got that idea. Well anyway, when being chased I usually try to W and E and for some reason even if the chaser is basically up inside my asshole the stun fails. I even take a sidestep just before the stun to make sure its in range but nooo.

As for the Q, sometimes when you stand exactly next to a minion or champion it will cause you to Q sideways.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#3567
On June 24 2013 18:08 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 18:06 arb wrote:
What Runes should you run on Mundo?
Split pen red
armor yellow/quints
mr/l blues?


For top, split pen red would give max value. I would take flat MR > MR/lvl in a majority of cases. Flat hp5/ MS are the more common options for quints.

I was talking jungle, i thought about hp5 or something but im not sure. feel like you take a shitload of damage on your first clear without armor imo. I was running spellvamp back early in the season which was basically the same as an extra pot or something i think when you used them to clear but i cant exactly remember.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#3568
Jatt's analysis of C9 vs CLG.
Interestingly enough, he doesn't blame C9's drafting like a lot of us did, instead focusing on how CLG survived the dangerous early game and won later when they weren't behind enough in gold. I guess it's a way of saying that C9 was aware of the shortcomings of their comp and gambled that they'd win early anyway?
I still think that the lack of lock-down/hard initiation to fight CLG's disengage, and more importantly the super low dps threat of their comp was also a big reason for C9's loss. Sure, CLG would have won anyway in the late game, but the cut-off for being able to survive/fight back would have probably been further against picks like Malphite, Leona, etc. when they had noone to ensure that Kennen could get in (well he could flank, but that's about it).
Which doesn't resolve what happened to them at level 1 of course.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 24 2013 11:08 GMT
#3569
On June 24 2013 19:01 Alaric wrote:
Jatt's analysis of C9 vs CLG.
Interestingly enough, he doesn't blame C9's drafting like a lot of us did, instead focusing on how CLG survived the dangerous early game and won later when they weren't behind enough in gold. I guess it's a way of saying that C9 was aware of the shortcomings of their comp and gambled that they'd win early anyway?
I still think that the lack of lock-down/hard initiation to fight CLG's disengage, and more importantly the super low dps threat of their comp was also a big reason for C9's loss. Sure, CLG would have won anyway in the late game, but the cut-off for being able to survive/fight back would have probably been further against picks like Malphite, Leona, etc. when they had noone to ensure that Kennen could get in (well he could flank, but that's about it).
Which doesn't resolve what happened to them at level 1 of course.


I agree to some extent, but the options are kinda limited. You cannot pick engage supports (especially Leona) versus Janna and jungle malph lacks the early game presence needed for towerpushing. If you get Malph mid you lose the option for a good split pusher. Maybe Jarvan jungle would have been a good option.

My prefered way would have been a simple Jayce ban. The way C9 plays TF is less of a threat than Jayce in my opinion. Without the Jayce poke it is way easier to get engagements on equal footing in the late game. The good disengage loses so much power when the heavy poke is out of the equation.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 24 2013 11:14 GMT
#3570
MVP gets another high Solo Q player on their training team
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 24 2013 12:57 GMT
#3571
TL new banner is pretty taunty :p

«TL loves all ESPORTS, equally» : WHAT ABOUT LOL. WE GET NO LOVE FROM TL
The legend of Darien lives on
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 24 2013 13:03 GMT
#3572
On June 24 2013 21:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
TL new banner is pretty taunty :p

«TL loves all ESPORTS, equally» : WHAT ABOUT LOL. WE GET NO LOVE FROM TL

It is a part of Team Liquid's master plan. They introduce TL+ to get that precious dirty ESPORTS money, and then they announce that they are adding a LoL team, bringing in all the fools from /r/leagueoflegends, giving them even more of that precious dirty ESPORTS money!
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Unless it was not obvious, this post is not serious.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 24 2013 13:16 GMT
#3573
On June 24 2013 21:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
TL new banner is pretty taunty :p

«TL loves all ESPORTS, equally» : WHAT ABOUT LOL. WE GET NO LOVE FROM TL


But in all seriousness, I'm very happy to see TL supporting the LGBT movement.

Played Karma last night. Enemy team had full global comp, my team goes "but at least we have Karma! /sarcasm". Proceed to destroy that game. Confirmed, continuous buffs to a champion make that champion ridiculously strong.

Also - Soloside dragged me onto Latin America servers for a game. (Beast Coasters, you can get pretty low ping there.) It's really funny playing there because I have very limited knowledge of Spanish, so communicating was a chore.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 24 2013 13:24 GMT
#3574
On June 24 2013 22:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 21:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
TL new banner is pretty taunty :p

«TL loves all ESPORTS, equally» : WHAT ABOUT LOL. WE GET NO LOVE FROM TL


I'm very happy to see TL supporting the LGBT movement.

Played Karma last night.

Are those linked ?
The legend of Darien lives on
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 24 2013 13:26 GMT
#3575
On June 24 2013 22:24 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 22:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 24 2013 21:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
TL new banner is pretty taunty :p

«TL loves all ESPORTS, equally» : WHAT ABOUT LOL. WE GET NO LOVE FROM TL


I'm very happy to see TL supporting the LGBT movement.

Played Karma last night.

Are those linked ?


totes toots
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 24 2013 13:30 GMT
#3576
Nunu doesn't win games at Silver I. The retardedness of people unable to apply logical thinking to him does.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4667 Posts
June 24 2013 13:32 GMT
#3577
On June 24 2013 20:08 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 19:01 Alaric wrote:
Jatt's analysis of C9 vs CLG.
Interestingly enough, he doesn't blame C9's drafting like a lot of us did, instead focusing on how CLG survived the dangerous early game and won later when they weren't behind enough in gold. I guess it's a way of saying that C9 was aware of the shortcomings of their comp and gambled that they'd win early anyway?
I still think that the lack of lock-down/hard initiation to fight CLG's disengage, and more importantly the super low dps threat of their comp was also a big reason for C9's loss. Sure, CLG would have won anyway in the late game, but the cut-off for being able to survive/fight back would have probably been further against picks like Malphite, Leona, etc. when they had noone to ensure that Kennen could get in (well he could flank, but that's about it).
Which doesn't resolve what happened to them at level 1 of course.


I agree to some extent, but the options are kinda limited. You cannot pick engage supports (especially Leona) versus Janna and jungle malph lacks the early game presence needed for towerpushing. If you get Malph mid you lose the option for a good split pusher. Maybe Jarvan jungle would have been a good option.

My prefered way would have been a simple Jayce ban. The way C9 plays TF is less of a threat than Jayce in my opinion. Without the Jayce poke it is way easier to get engagements on equal footing in the late game. The good disengage loses so much power when the heavy poke is out of the equation.


Hai said that their big mistake was picking Kennen first (when no one on CLG plays Kennen) instead of Jayce, since they did have first pick.

The failure to pick Jayce was a result of them getting complacent after the 5-0 in Superweek, which in turn led to them not researching CLG enough to make the right pick.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 13:41:34
June 24 2013 13:41 GMT
#3578
On June 24 2013 17:15 Chexx wrote:
Gigabyte is the new sponsor for NicegameTV

Big important news OGN is looking for a second Buffgirl

What's a buffgirl or I guess what's her role?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 24 2013 13:46 GMT
#3579
On June 24 2013 22:41 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 17:15 Chexx wrote:
Gigabyte is the new sponsor for NicegameTV

Big important news OGN is looking for a second Buffgirl

What's a buffgirl or I guess what's her role?

I guess that it is the same as Stargirls from Brood War.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 24 2013 13:46 GMT
#3580
On June 24 2013 22:41 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 17:15 Chexx wrote:
Gigabyte is the new sponsor for NicegameTV

Big important news OGN is looking for a second Buffgirl

What's a buffgirl or I guess what's her role?


looking pretty and doing interviews
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
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