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On June 23 2013 17:25 Sufficiency wrote:
How is Ignite 300g in stats?
On paper, sure... 5AD = 200g, and 5AP=100g, sure. But your champion will almost certain prefer one kind of stats over the other, so having both does not mean you can utilize both to their fullest extents.
There are many that do.
Every AP mid can use both stats, same with a fair number of top laners.
Only like AD casters dont like it.
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On June 23 2013 17:51 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 17:25 Sufficiency wrote:
How is Ignite 300g in stats?
On paper, sure... 5AD = 200g, and 5AP=100g, sure. But your champion will almost certain prefer one kind of stats over the other, so having both does not mean you can utilize both to their fullest extents. There are many that do. Every AP mid can use both stats, same with a fair number of top laners. Only like AD casters dont like it.
Riven cries broken tears. Tears she can not even use.
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Riven just uses the ignite at lvl 1 to kill the opponent, worth it etc
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Apparently SuNo has joined MVP (after leaving ESG/SKT T1 #1). Don't know how he fits in though with either Ozone or Blue.
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On June 23 2013 13:15 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 13:04 Capricious_LoL wrote:On June 23 2013 12:35 c.Deadly wrote:On June 23 2013 12:28 Capricious_LoL wrote:
I have been playing double jungle Anivia/Soraka in blind pick normals with premade friends. We always end up crushing the game. This is a good strategy because soraka solves the bird's mana issues, letting the bird soar to become the powerhouse she is. Our modus operandi is to let someone get solo xp off the first buff and then consistently counterjungle throughout the game. Through this, we are able to deny the enemy jungler and pressure all lanes. We have also been playing double jungle with Sona with great success.
Never mind that we may be playing against bad players. Never mind that we are probably more coordinated than the enemy team. Based on this purely anecdotal evidence we can safely conclude that this double jungle strategy is viable and deserves serious consideration and discussion. I imagine we'll see this double jungle style become part of the meta in a LCS near you.
What are your thoughts on this strategy? You should run Janna to increase Soraka/Anivia's slow movespeed for better counterjungling. Janna's winds help Anivia get more lift, allowing for additional soaring. Also Quinn might be a good addition because of bird synergy? I don't know maybe a high Elo player could weigh in on that. Thank your for responding. I'm glad that together, we can be at the forefront of innovation for this game. The bird idea is extremely compelling. I think that using 5 bird champions will increase the win rate. Much to our dismay, I think there's only 3 bird champions? (Swain, ice bird, and Quinn) This means that what Riot needs to do is to port Phoenix from Dota and give Soraka a bird-skin. Udyr has phoenix stance and syngergizes well with Janna as she makes him fly faster.
some eu lp guys did the "Best birds" ranked 5's team ages ago. IIRC it was anivia swain janna shyvana and maokai (he was the tree the birds all lived in). I imagine you could also use pheonix stance only udyr or galio as well
you win the game then surrender and scour the entire low elo ranked 5's teams so all shall know.. and tremble.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
I would like to do the Invertebrates team, like Khazix, Skarner, Zac.. anyone else?
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As a humanoid Kha'Zix seems pretty vertebrated (whatever that means) to me.
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On June 23 2013 19:31 Scip wrote:
I would like to do the Invertebrates team, like Khazix, Skarner, Zac.. anyone else?
skarner has a vertebrate isnt he
fiddle is a stick man, should that count
similarly maokai
ori is a robot
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Skarner is pretty scorpiony, scorpions have no spine.
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malphite is a rock,
kogmaw is a caterpillar or whatever thats called in english,
those should count
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
SICK
Jungle Skarner, middle Khazix, top lane Zac, support Malphite and AD Kog let's do eet
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I just had a guy pick Jungle FIddlesticks into my Jungle nunu.
lolol. This game be fun.
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On June 23 2013 19:47 iCanada wrote:
I just had a guy pick Jungle FIddlesticks into my Jungle nunu.
lolol. This game be fun.
Imagine if he takes E first and dark wind bounces to stop your consume and smite the blue. Would be pimpest counterplay ever @_@.
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Holy shit ARAM queues, I had 10 people in a row dodge before I got a real game. Why pick an ALL RANDOM mode if you don't want to play random characters 
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On June 23 2013 19:50 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 19:47 iCanada wrote:
I just had a guy pick Jungle FIddlesticks into my Jungle nunu.
lolol. This game be fun. Imagine if he takes E first and dark wind bounces to stop your consume and smite the blue. Would be pimpest counterplay ever @_@.
Someone on the enemy team dodge.
<_<
The disappointments.
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Speaking of Nunu, if you see one, there's a solution : pick Nocturne.
Your Q allows you to run faster than him and your W counters his only offensive spell 1v1. He can't counter jungle you without risking his life, and even with a level disadvantage you'll win 1v1.
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On June 23 2013 20:08 mr_tolkien wrote:
Speaking of Nunu, if you see one, there's a solution : pick Nocturne.
Your Q allows you to run faster than him and your W counters his only offensive spell 1v1. He can't counter jungle you without risking his life, and even with a level disadvantage you'll win 1v1.
I'm guessing you start E for the disable?
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 23 2013 05:59 KissBlade wrote:
Well Scip (And Slayer if you got some tips), I will tell you I flat out would like more tips on how to jungle at a higher level.
I have some major issues in understanding when is a lane is optimal for ganking. (For example, what should I expect in terms of how the lane waves look)
I also don't think I have optimal gank pathing. I know the standard route of going through enemy jungle, etc but that's it really. Lane ganks seem very 50/50 and mid seems nigh impossible half the time.
I also fall behind in farm compared to better junglers as I feel I roam entirely too much and tax way too little. I often buff control/objective control far better than my opponent (usually 1-2 level adv vs enemy jungler early mid) but don't take enough advantage of it IMO.
Also I have no idea what to do when the game feels "neutral" such as lanes are even, etc. I feel like I should be predicting ganks to counter gank more while I'm farming but I either get too low in my jungle while I farm or I run OOM.
My main junglers are Eve and J4. I feel more confident with Eve but I have better results with J4 since I just feel his role suits more solo q jungler style for some reason. (Tanky intiator who can switch to dueling without issues).
lane works like this:
one side has more creeps = the lane will push for that side (how much depends on how laners play it though)
same amount of creeps but they are closer to one side = the side that it is close to will push in 2-3 waves (reinforcements arrive faster) IF neither champion pushes the lane
same amount of creeps in the middle of the lane = you don't know
If you fall behind, it's probably not due to not taxing enough, but not farming enough. I gave an advice on EU LP once, that if you want to get platinum, you just don't gank before lvl6, and that is especially true for Eve, whose ganks before 6 are really quite mediocre.
What I'd reccomend doing is just not ganking before 6 for a few games, just clearing golems-wraiths-wolves over and over, maybe holding a lane that dies or really going to help if someone gets dived and you are nearby by a chance. That is your baseline, how you play if no opportunities come up, and then you can try to look for opportunities. That is a lot harder to do, naturally.
Not much better than a fortune cookie answer, I know, but it's hard to just do a short guide on this :3
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On June 23 2013 19:42 Scip wrote:
SICK
Jungle Skarner, middle Khazix, top lane Zac, support Malphite and AD Kog let's do eet
I think Xerath and Nocturne work too.
Borderline cases include Urgot and Blitzcrank.
And we have to consider Vlad I think. I mean where is his back when he troll pools?
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