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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 15 2013 09:16 GMT
#1081
On April 15 2013 18:12 JonGalt wrote:
I can't watch the vlogs, can someone TLDR (or more like NICW) the Curse situation for me?


Saint said elements is trash on dlift stream>elements says saint is a bad captain and a douchebag>saint says elementz is lazy and doesn't try to get better.

Neither is wrong imo.Also it's hilarious that these vlogs are actually up.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 15 2013 09:20 GMT
#1082
Man, NA scene is too funny
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:22:43
April 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#1083
On April 15 2013 18:12 JonGalt wrote:
I can't watch the vlogs, can someone TLDR (or more like NICW) the Curse situation for me?


Doublelift and saint had a Skype conversation about what each team's weaknesses and strengths were. One of the things mentioned was that Elementz is fucking awful and that Curse can't 2v2 any of the LCS bot lanes because Elementz is awful. It got screen capped and posted on reddit a few days ago I think.

Tonight Elementz responded to it with a 33 minute vlog. I didn't watch it all. What I did watch, he feels betrayed by saint and called Double an asshole and says that he thinks he's a good support but agrees that he isn't the best.

saint made a vlog saying that Elementz doesn't try to improve, that the team has talked to him about it, and says that the thing they're nit picking is from a "30 page Skype conversation" and was just one part of how to improve their team.

Pretty boring drama.
+ Show Spoiler +
But I will say that it's way pas time Elementz got the boot and never came back into the pro scene ever again. He's probably the worst LCS support right now. MeyeA might be worse. Curse should just snipe a support from one of the amateur teams or pick up any random Challenger/Diamond support. Maybe wait until after next LCS season because if GGU doesn't make LCS they could pick up Daydreamin. Or pick up LemonNation if Quantic doesn't qualify for LCS.

I don't think saint should fill this role of what is essentially a coach and a player but no NA teams seem willing to pick up coaches so w/e.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 15 2013 09:30 GMT
#1084
Makes me wonder wtf is liquid doing, not even taking those vlogs down. Zhis is so fucking next level, vlogging and trashtalking teammates that sit 5 m away from you. Cant imagine that curse brand wants this kind of pr.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
April 15 2013 09:38 GMT
#1085
Sometimes I wonder about people who play league. This guy on the enemy team was raging at his shen when he played jungle khazix and legitimately did nothing all game, I said in all chat it wasn't shens fault he had no jungle pressure at all (The shen died once in lane then in team fights, he wasn't THAT bad).

Post game the guy adds me and this started

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schmuttt (7:34): hi khaz

7O Voltik (7:35): sup ****** ******
hope u die
id love to see it
schmuttt (7:35):
7O Voltik (7:35): youre a piece of ****
rat goof ******
schmuttt (7:35): LOL
7O Voltik (7:35): hope you get your ******* skull caved in
schmuttt (7:35): how mad?
7O Voltik (7:35): piece of **** ******
schmuttt (7:35): dude i think you got an anger problem
you gotta see someone about that

7O Voltik (7:35): i **** your mother for my anger release
it works wonders
but i pimped her out to some ******* tonight
so
thats why im alil tense
schmuttt (7:35): ?
alil?
is that american for mad?
7O Voltik (7:35): yeah well tomorrow once the ******* are done raping her
schmuttt (7:35): LOL
7O Voltik (7:36): lol
you some kinda ******* spic or something?
im not american
you a dirty mexican?
schmuttt (7:36): HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE


Some people man
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 15 2013 09:41 GMT
#1086
The internet just makes us quiet people from irl talk a lot usually and sometimes you get this .

I wonder if na/eu will adopt the korean model of just replacing people who are consistently not performing.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 15 2013 09:50 GMT
#1087
On April 15 2013 18:41 nafta wrote:
The internet just makes us quiet people from irl talk a lot usually and sometimes you get this .

I wonder if na/eu will adopt the korean model of just replacing people who are consistently not performing.

Korean model? It's just logic, that's all.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
April 15 2013 10:03 GMT
#1088
On April 15 2013 18:03 sob3k wrote:
they need a fucking coach

saint is a dick
elementz is bad

you cant just have 5 douchey guys in a house yelling at each other, they need a goddamn coach


To be honest, many teams in the NA scene need a coach. Just look at the environments of CLG (yelling at one another every scrim), TSM (handling of Chaox benching), and Curse (the annual Saint/Elementz shittalkfest).


EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 15 2013 10:04 GMT
#1089
Btw I don't know whether this has been posted to TL yet but someone made a new extension for Chrome that supports Azubu.tv.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/league-streams/plbfmpfcbppeepkmbgphjpgldpgglbob
wat
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
April 15 2013 11:00 GMT
#1090
On April 15 2013 15:47 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:45 LoCicero wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:39 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:36 red_ wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:22 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:19 schmutttt wrote:
BUT WHO WERE YOU PLAYING

I'm assuming zac or hecarim

No, Zac or Hecarim would have both died too quickly to six-item Caitlyn and five-item Kassadin. I was 6-10-12 at the time.


So this is like a murder mystery? Sounds like perhaps a Rammus, or maybe a more oddball-ish pick(in recent times) like Alistar.

It was not a standard pick. But it wasn't what you would consider a tank, either.

On April 15 2013 15:35 divinesage wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:22 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:19 schmutttt wrote:
BUT WHO WERE YOU PLAYING

I'm assuming zac or hecarim

No, Zac or Hecarim would have both died too quickly to six-item Caitlyn and five-item Kassadin. I was 6-10-12 at the time.


Mundo or J4..

Mundo could have conceivably done it if they had all blown their ignites, but that wasn't it. J4 would have died more or less instantly.


Emerald was playing Poppy, 100% chance.

Easiest guessing game of my life.

Nailed it. Nobody fucking else had a chance in hell, Tryndamere has the damage and the health but could be stopped any number of other ways. Ran to the Nexus, ulted Sona, stunned for two seconds which leaves me eight seconds to beat that nexus to death while Voli, Malphite, Caitlyn and Kassadin all pile on me like it's going to do something. Poppy is the dumbest fucking hero in the game. Totally degenerate ult. Everybody walked out of that game feeling like a retard.


Poppy actually takes a lot of skill to play right, but I'm more interested in knowing how the opposing team was so stupid that they tried to focus you during your ult (nexus hitting aside) after having an entire game of brilliant defense.
Also, you are Poppy - how can't you dive a Caitlyn??? the opponents can't peel a Poppy, and you are more than bursty and quick enough to 100-0 any carry that you can catch (Caitlyn is super easy to catch unlike an Ezreal or Tristana).
It sounds like you had a superior late game composition with a Vayne and a Poppy, but wasn't able to close the game for some reason (Late game Poppy and Vayne should melt that teamcomp on thier own).

Btw - a Trynd can do the exact same thing if he waits for the opponents to blow thier CC.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 15 2013 11:03 GMT
#1091
Also Vayne is actually one of the better ADC's at dealing with Malphite from my experience.
wat
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 15 2013 11:13 GMT
#1092
Thanks for the Curse recap.

All I want is an offline versions of League of Legends where I can play against computers. Is that too much to ask for!?

For now I am stuck with Dota 6.77. Learning to play Viper and Anti-Mage. Gotta keep up my MOBA mechanical skills!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 15 2013 11:19 GMT
#1093
there will never be an offline version because it would need to have the server code into it.
Riot will never ever release the server code because that would mean private servers with all skins etc unlocked.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 15 2013 11:36 GMT
#1094
Wut. Choax didn't show up for practice often and so in the end got kicked and replaced for not living up to what is expected of any progamer. It's not TSM's fault chaox streams and acts the victim, something you wouldn't see on the korean scene.

What wouls be funny is if aphro got tired of clg bickering and left, them crs picked him up as their support lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3319 Posts
April 15 2013 12:00 GMT
#1095
On April 15 2013 20:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
Wut. Choax didn't show up for practice often and so in the end got kicked and replaced for not living up to what is expected of any progamer. It's not TSM's fault chaox streams and acts the victim, something you wouldn't see on the korean scene.

What wouls be funny is if aphro got tired of clg bickering and left, them crs picked him up as their support lol.


between aphro and elementz the improvement wouldn't be that big tbh
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 15 2013 12:08 GMT
#1096
On April 15 2013 20:19 LaNague wrote:
there will never be an offline version because it would need to have the server code into it.
Riot will never ever release the server code because that would mean private servers with all skins etc unlocked.


I know

A man can dream though.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:18:51
April 15 2013 12:14 GMT
#1097
On April 15 2013 20:00 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:47 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:45 LoCicero wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:39 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:36 red_ wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:22 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:19 schmutttt wrote:
BUT WHO WERE YOU PLAYING

I'm assuming zac or hecarim

No, Zac or Hecarim would have both died too quickly to six-item Caitlyn and five-item Kassadin. I was 6-10-12 at the time.


So this is like a murder mystery? Sounds like perhaps a Rammus, or maybe a more oddball-ish pick(in recent times) like Alistar.

It was not a standard pick. But it wasn't what you would consider a tank, either.

On April 15 2013 15:35 divinesage wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:22 EmeraldSparks wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:19 schmutttt wrote:
BUT WHO WERE YOU PLAYING

I'm assuming zac or hecarim

No, Zac or Hecarim would have both died too quickly to six-item Caitlyn and five-item Kassadin. I was 6-10-12 at the time.


Mundo or J4..

Mundo could have conceivably done it if they had all blown their ignites, but that wasn't it. J4 would have died more or less instantly.


Emerald was playing Poppy, 100% chance.

Easiest guessing game of my life.

Nailed it. Nobody fucking else had a chance in hell, Tryndamere has the damage and the health but could be stopped any number of other ways. Ran to the Nexus, ulted Sona, stunned for two seconds which leaves me eight seconds to beat that nexus to death while Voli, Malphite, Caitlyn and Kassadin all pile on me like it's going to do something. Poppy is the dumbest fucking hero in the game. Totally degenerate ult. Everybody walked out of that game feeling like a retard.


Poppy actually takes a lot of skill to play right, but I'm more interested in knowing how the opposing team was so stupid that they tried to focus you during your ult (nexus hitting aside) after having an entire game of brilliant defense.
Also, you are Poppy - how can't you dive a Caitlyn??? the opponents can't peel a Poppy, and you are more than bursty and quick enough to 100-0 any carry that you can catch (Caitlyn is super easy to catch unlike an Ezreal or Tristana).
It sounds like you had a superior late game composition with a Vayne and a Poppy, but wasn't able to close the game for some reason (Late game Poppy and Vayne should melt that teamcomp on thier own).

Btw - a Trynd can do the exact same thing if he waits for the opponents to blow thier CC.

They focused me because I was the only one doing anything. The rest of my team was just chilling out by the inhibs.

I had Trinity, Gunblade, Sorceror Shoes, Spirit of the Spectral Wraith and a Fiendish Codex looking to build DFG as my endgame items. Caitlyn had IE PD LW BT Zerkers GA. Pretty fucking sure I can't 1v1 that. She sold GA for Scimitar after it was down. Ideally I'd ult Sona and kill Caitlyn but Sona hangs back next to Caitlyn and even trying to get in E range of Caitlyn without ulting one of their tanks is somewhat difficult. I can ult one of their tanks and piledrive Caitlyn but let's face it, if I don't get a wall punch my whole combo is something around 1000 damage? Caitlyn can heal that off in two seconds of shooting someone else.

Vayne kept getting Malphited. AS reduction is the only counter to Vayne but it works kinda decent. None of our champions could peel worth a shit. Well, Thresh could, but relying on Thresh to peel off both Voli and Malphite is sort of hard.
But why?
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 15 2013 12:15 GMT
#1098
www.rtsguru.com/game/435/article/5540/Travis-Gafford-The-LCS-Pros-All-Star-Picks.html

Some of the pros choose their all star NA/EU teams. Small sample size though, but still mildly interesting.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 15 2013 12:33 GMT
#1099
On April 15 2013 21:15 JonGalt wrote:
www.rtsguru.com/game/435/article/5540/Travis-Gafford-The-LCS-Pros-All-Star-Picks.html

Some of the pros choose their all star NA/EU teams. Small sample size though, but still mildly interesting.

Yeah like everyone else says Diamond and Edward clearly the best jungler and support. Surprisingly no one voted for Alex Ich and xPeke won quite largely.. When did they vote ? Because lately I feel that xPeke didn't perform well compared to Alex.
Agreed on CandyPanda he's underrated and is playing really well.
Also lol @ HSGG voting for himself
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 15 2013 12:36 GMT
#1100
I bet the lack of Alex Ich votes is due to xPeke clearly outperforming Alex for the couple of games that were played just before the votes were starting, as well as Alex Ich stating he didn't want to go because he would rather spend time with his wife (however, he changed his mind since then).
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