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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 12 2013 14:19 GMT
#3401
Ninjas dont run, they appear where they want to appear
KCCO!
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 12 2013 14:23 GMT
#3402
Just when I thought people couldn't rage more in this game, I get into a game with 2 people in their promotion matches. "Guys I'm in my promotion match lets all play great!". I'm thinking okay cool positive attitude, then another player gives up first blood and the two "promotion" players proceed to flame him and each other non-stop, spiraling our team down a path of self-destruction into oblivion. Literally had a guy die because he was standing alone in mid lane typing retorts instead of playing. People are taking these promotion matches wayyy too seriously.
I got nothin'...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 12 2013 14:52 GMT
#3403
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 14:56:32
February 12 2013 14:55 GMT
#3404
I should have said "run like hell, with a cunning use of W".
The goal is to kill someone anyway, dying or not after the target dies is just exogene variable that doesn't really matter in regards to your objectif (which is killing the target). If you end up by trading 1 for 1, or even dragging one of your mates into dying stupidly, just don't forget to say "worth it" and it's all okay.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 12 2013 14:57 GMT
#3405
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of


To be fair, the "I'm so sad"s are at least partially about the fact that that person is retiring from a game the fans/spectators liked watching them play. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#3406
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of

if you're referring to the darkforce retiring thread, there are enough ppl (even several whom i've never seen on the LoL boards) calling out the assholes that i'm beginning to see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. The TL community as a whole is finally maturing and realizing that LoL is here for the foreseeable future. Or, at the very least, the circlejerk of LoL hate is starting to break.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 15:16:14
February 12 2013 15:10 GMT
#3407
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of


Well the community as a whole sucks donkey balls, but TL is great.

All you need to do is open Twitch and sort by viewership to learn where eSports is going. On any given day (without a tourney on), viewership looks like:

LoL - 74k
WoW (wtf?) - 12k
SC2 - 7k
CoD - 5k
DotA2- 2k


Edit- Just opened Twitch to check for today:

LoL- 70k
DotA2 - 12k
SC2 WoL- 9k
WoW - 6k
D3 - 4k
SC2 HotS - 3k

Which is a little better for SC2 than most nights. I love watching casted games in bed for sleeptime, so IPL's series is awesome for me. But most nights, it looks like the top figures.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 12 2013 15:12 GMT
#3408
That was the thread that compelled me to post something. It just seems so common.

@Asmodeus I was being fair, in the context it was not about his retiring But it is a good point.

I wanted to take a moment and be thankful for finding this subforum
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 12 2013 15:16 GMT
#3409
On February 13 2013 00:10 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of


Well the community as a whole sucks donkey balls, but TL is great.

All you need to do is open Twitch and sort by viewership to learn where eSports is going. On any given day (without a tourney on), viewership looks like:

LoL - 74k
WoW (wtf?) - 12k
SC2 - 7k
CoD - 5k
DotA2- 2k

In fairness, I don't consider non-tournament streams "E-Sports". Playing pub games is not E-Sports. It's just playing games.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 12 2013 15:20 GMT
#3410
On February 13 2013 00:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:10 Crownlol wrote:
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of


Well the community as a whole sucks donkey balls, but TL is great.

All you need to do is open Twitch and sort by viewership to learn where eSports is going. On any given day (without a tourney on), viewership looks like:

LoL - 74k
WoW (wtf?) - 12k
SC2 - 7k
CoD - 5k
DotA2- 2k

In fairness, I don't consider non-tournament streams "E-Sports". Playing pub games is not E-Sports. It's just playing games.


I'd certainly say that peak tournament viewers is a solid measure of an eSport for sure, but as a guideline, it is fairly obvious that competitive gaming is leaning towards MOBAs. Personally, I made the switch from SC2 to LoL simply because winning by yourself isn't all that fun, and I have enough RL friends to 4 and 5 queue every time I play.

I'd like to see CS:GO make a push as a popular sport, but IPL would have to pick it up over Shootmania (who plays Shootmania!?).
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 12 2013 15:21 GMT
#3411
Sc2 players just blame LoL for stealing all the good players. Not really sure what exactly they expect to get out of all the mudflinging...
KCCO!
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 12 2013 15:31 GMT
#3412
On February 13 2013 00:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Sc2 players just blame LoL for stealing all the good players. Not really sure what exactly they expect to get out of all the mudflinging...


Fear of the unknown and resistance to change is quite common and powerful:

1.6 players hate on CS:S, Halo, and CoD players. (However, console FPS really does deserve to be teased)
BW players hate on SC2 players
SSBM players hate on SSBB players (SSBB really isn't a strong competitive game tho)
DotA players hate on LoL players
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 15:41:15
February 12 2013 15:38 GMT
#3413
On February 13 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
DotA players hate on LoL players

The DotA community would care a lot less about LoL if Pendragon hadn't made a PR disaster out of his exit from DotA.

It's a bit misguided to point the finger at LoL in general and not Pendragon in particular, but I'd say his rather unceremonious departure warrants some scrutiny.
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SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
February 12 2013 15:40 GMT
#3414
On February 13 2013 00:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Sc2 players just blame LoL for stealing all the good players. Not really sure what exactly they expect to get out of all the mudflinging...


... Well actually all the "good" SC2 players are staying in SC2 and the ones who can't make it/bow out early are the ones who go to LoL. Just saying.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2013 15:43 GMT
#3415
On February 13 2013 00:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
DotA players hate on LoL players

The DotA community would care a lot less about LoL if Pendragon hadn't made a PR disaster out of his exit from DotA.

It's a bit misguided to point the finger at LoL in general and not Pendragon in particular, but I'd say his rather unceremonious departure warrants some scrutiny.


Who is Pendragon?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 12 2013 15:52 GMT
#3416
On February 13 2013 00:40 SwizzY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Sc2 players just blame LoL for stealing all the good players. Not really sure what exactly they expect to get out of all the mudflinging...


... Well actually all the "good" SC2 players are staying in SC2 and the ones who can't make it/bow out early are the ones who go to LoL. Just saying.


I know I should have put that in quotes. "Good" players that quit Sc2 i ment. Look at darkforce as an example, or any korean semipro
KCCO!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 12 2013 15:57 GMT
#3417
On February 13 2013 00:03 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 23:52 mordek wrote:
It kinda blows my mind when I see pros retiring or other prominent people in SC2 and they mention playing league and getting tons of crap or just "i'm so sad" comments. It's like, after the 100th time you see this you may get an idea that the game is possibly enjoyable to play. Like maybe just a sliver of a hint that it's worth just trying for kicks. Their loss I guess ^^

I've been pretty happy the last year and a half since I discovered league. Thanks for being an awesome community to be a part of

if you're referring to the darkforce retiring thread, there are enough ppl (even several whom i've never seen on the LoL boards) calling out the assholes that i'm beginning to see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel. The TL community as a whole is finally maturing and realizing that LoL is here for the foreseeable future. Or, at the very least, the circlejerk of LoL hate is starting to break.


Obviously only due to everyone's favorite SC2 team finally picking up a League team.

On February 13 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:38 TheYango wrote:
On February 13 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
DotA players hate on LoL players

The DotA community would care a lot less about LoL if Pendragon hadn't made a PR disaster out of his exit from DotA.

It's a bit misguided to point the finger at LoL in general and not Pendragon in particular, but I'd say his rather unceremonious departure warrants some scrutiny.


Who is Pendragon?


A community manager type person for League. He ran a big DotA website, when he got hired by Riot he put a giant ad for League of Legends on the site and then deleted everything. People were rightfully angered by it since it meant tons of guides and everything on the forums was gone for good. It's pretty stupid though to assume that people from DotA hate League purely because of one Rioters actions three years ago. I dunno if anyone could be that petty.

I'm pretty sure most of the DotA community that dislikes League dislikes it for the same reason that the SC2 community dislikes it. It's competition. And since League has been #1 in eSports viewership for over a year the League community has no real reason to hate on either game since there isn't really any competition.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2013 16:03 GMT
#3418
There really is no reason for SC2 and League to be in direct competition. They're very different games.

LoL and DotA2 I can understand, but SC2 and LoL should really get along. Just work together and schedule your big tournaments on different weekends, it's k.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 16:09:32
February 12 2013 16:09 GMT
#3419
On February 13 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:38 TheYango wrote:
On February 13 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
DotA players hate on LoL players

The DotA community would care a lot less about LoL if Pendragon hadn't made a PR disaster out of his exit from DotA.

It's a bit misguided to point the finger at LoL in general and not Pendragon in particular, but I'd say his rather unceremonious departure warrants some scrutiny.


Who is Pendragon?


I think the best way people like to describe the "pentadragon" situation is to imagine Nazgul one day suddenly shutting down Teamliquid losing all the threads, replay, analysis, writeups etc. Pendragon co. ran a site called dota allstars which was basically the teamliquid of Dota and one day shut it down xD and put up a LoL ad.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 12 2013 16:31 GMT
#3420
On February 13 2013 01:09 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote:
On February 13 2013 00:38 TheYango wrote:
On February 13 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
DotA players hate on LoL players

The DotA community would care a lot less about LoL if Pendragon hadn't made a PR disaster out of his exit from DotA.

It's a bit misguided to point the finger at LoL in general and not Pendragon in particular, but I'd say his rather unceremonious departure warrants some scrutiny.


Who is Pendragon?


I think the best way people like to describe the "pentadragon" situation is to imagine Nazgul one day suddenly shutting down Teamliquid losing all the threads, replay, analysis, writeups etc. Pendragon co. ran a site called dota allstars which was basically the teamliquid of Dota and one day shut it down xD and put up a LoL ad.

O prz no. Dat thought
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