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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 17 2013 03:36 GMT
#481
Why level 16? With IE and Shiv, there is no difference between level 13 and level 16 for getting to 100% (25+20 means you need to get 55% from her passive, 55/18 = 4 occurrences, 55/15 = 4 too). Well maybe 3s faster for level 16 since it gets you to 99% instead of 100, but still... it's not a level in particular, it just charges faster at higher levels.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 04:03:50
January 17 2013 03:36 GMT
#482
On January 17 2013 12:33 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 12:22 jalstar wrote:
So as Ashe I've found that Level 16 Passive + IE + Shiv gives 100% critical chance, yet most guides for her still suggest buying PD over Shiv, without mentioning the 100% cap that Shiv gets you to. Do the other stats on PD, as well as the amount of attacks you'll do when passive is down, make PD always better than Shiv on her?

Cop's guide on LoLPro is the only one I've found recommending Shiv, but he says "As your ASPD item, pick up a Statikk Shiv because your first attack is usually a critical strike and this applies with the on-hit effect." so I'm assuming he's unaware of the cap thing. (Your first attack is ALWAYS a critical strike provided you are level 16+ and already have IE)

wait what? With the first 3 seconds at lvl 16 you only get 18% (passive) + 25% (IE) + 20% (Shiv) = 63%. While with PD you get 18% + 25% + 30% (PD) = 73%.

With Shiv and IE, you can get to 99% after 9 seconds. With PD and IE, you can get to 91% after 6 seconds, 100% after 9 seconds.

Ultimately I agree that Shiv is better, since the 100% crit on multiple targets I think is invaluable. I just don't understand your calculations.


I meant full passive after 9 seconds yeah. It seems like it should be 99% but it shows up as 100% in game.

edit: The passive can always keep stacking up until 100% I guess? That's what I was missing?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 17 2013 03:37 GMT
#483
Anyone have problems with screen flickering this patch? My friend seems to get a weird screen flicker in League only.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
January 17 2013 03:51 GMT
#484
I just got my first pentakill

We still lost the game.

:'(
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 17 2013 03:53 GMT
#485
Yeah that happened to me my first pentakill too. Was on Kayle.

So sad.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 17 2013 04:06 GMT
#486
On January 17 2013 12:36 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 12:33 Live2Win wrote:
On January 17 2013 12:22 jalstar wrote:
So as Ashe I've found that Level 16 Passive + IE + Shiv gives 100% critical chance, yet most guides for her still suggest buying PD over Shiv, without mentioning the 100% cap that Shiv gets you to. Do the other stats on PD, as well as the amount of attacks you'll do when passive is down, make PD always better than Shiv on her?

Cop's guide on LoLPro is the only one I've found recommending Shiv, but he says "As your ASPD item, pick up a Statikk Shiv because your first attack is usually a critical strike and this applies with the on-hit effect." so I'm assuming he's unaware of the cap thing. (Your first attack is ALWAYS a critical strike provided you are level 16+ and already have IE)

wait what? With the first 3 seconds at lvl 16 you only get 18% (passive) + 25% (IE) + 20% (Shiv) = 63%. While with PD you get 18% + 25% + 30% (PD) = 73%.

With Shiv and IE, you can get to 99% after 9 seconds. With PD and IE, you can get to 91% after 6 seconds, 100% after 9 seconds.

Ultimately I agree that Shiv is better, since the 100% crit on multiple targets I think is invaluable. I just don't understand your calculations.


I meant full passive after 9 seconds yeah. It seems like it should be 99% but it shows up as 100% in game.

edit: The passive can always keep stacking up until 100% I guess? That's what I was missing?

yeah, even level 1 ashe gets a guaranteed crit on her first hit of the game
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
January 17 2013 04:08 GMT
#487
Damn server shut down mid game, why does patch day have to be 5 am on a Thursday?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 17 2013 04:14 GMT
#488
Damn it another Cassiopeia skin... <__<
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 04:19:05
January 17 2013 04:16 GMT
#489
OH fuck the warring kingdoms skins are coming out on the pbe. they look so fantastic god I hope they arn't legendaries.

+ Show Spoiler [Lubu.Jarvan] +


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A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 17 2013 04:23 GMT
#490
Oh man that Corki skin is really cool.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 17 2013 04:26 GMT
#491
That new Tibbers art hurts my soul
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 17 2013 04:30 GMT
#492
On January 17 2013 12:37 HazMat wrote:
Anyone have problems with screen flickering this patch? My friend seems to get a weird screen flicker in League only.


Turns out it's a problem with 7000 series AMD cards.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Artline
Profile Joined September 2011
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 04:31:38
January 17 2013 04:31 GMT
#493
On January 17 2013 12:37 HazMat wrote:
Anyone have problems with screen flickering this patch? My friend seems to get a weird screen flicker in League only.


This happens to me too.

Edit 7950 how to fix?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 17 2013 04:33 GMT
#494
On January 17 2013 13:31 Artline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 12:37 HazMat wrote:
Anyone have problems with screen flickering this patch? My friend seems to get a weird screen flicker in League only.


This happens to me too.

Edit 7950 how to fix?

Riot has acknowledged it and are working on a fix.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 17 2013 04:36 GMT
#495
Anyone else sitting in an infinite wait trying to get into a game of LoL?
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 04:38:41
January 17 2013 04:37 GMT
#496
I am. edit: decided to restart client and relog queue is >5m.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 04:48:07
January 17 2013 04:42 GMT
#497
All I want to do is try out Diana and get my win of the day via coop, but no have to wait indefinitely for a game of LoL to finally connect me to champ select.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 17 2013 04:43 GMT
#498
On January 17 2013 13:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Anyone else sitting in an infinite wait trying to get into a game of LoL?


Ranked is disabled, your Q is for nothing.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 17 2013 04:48 GMT
#499
On January 17 2013 13:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 13:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Anyone else sitting in an infinite wait trying to get into a game of LoL?


Ranked is disabled, your Q is for nothing.

How do you know he's talking about ranked? We were just sitting in normal queue too.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 17 2013 04:57 GMT
#500
On January 17 2013 13:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 13:43 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 17 2013 13:36 NEOtheONE wrote:
Anyone else sitting in an infinite wait trying to get into a game of LoL?


Ranked is disabled, your Q is for nothing.

How do you know he's talking about ranked? We were just sitting in normal queue too.

Normal doesn't work for me either. If you cancel it'll tell you that you're already in a match and champion select is imminent. I'm just doing aram o/
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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