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Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
January 03 2013 16:49 GMT
#5241
On January 04 2013 01:05 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 00:57 AsnSensation wrote:
FINALLY someone else is on top of the european streaming foodchain, whenever a member of former clg.eu is streaming alone, that person gt more viewers thatn ocelote, yay!

Only Froggen managed to do that before the switch, but now on twitch, even wickd and pete can defeat oce numbers! xD

It's close though, 12k to 13k :p


Oce 15k, Pete 11k, Wickd 5k

So Ex-CLGeu still ahead if you combine! :|
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#5242
Krepo 3.5k too.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
January 03 2013 17:01 GMT
#5243
And poor chu at 1k. Way cooler than those pro-ragers.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
January 03 2013 17:10 GMT
#5244
On January 04 2013 02:01 TheLink wrote:
And poor chu at 1k. Way cooler than those pro-ragers.

I really dont know why he didnt try to qualify for season 3.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#5245
On January 04 2013 01:51 sylverfyre wrote:
Krepo 3.5k too.

I hate watching support playing, feel kinda boring, but damn this Krepo, such a chill guy, such good and diverse music, such nice tips, somebody give him a medal.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 03 2013 17:23 GMT
#5246
Oh reddit. Some of these comments are hilarious.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15vvlo/season_3_the_most_costefficient_marks_seals/
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 03 2013 17:30 GMT
#5247
On January 03 2013 20:47 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 14:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 03 2013 13:38 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So I turned on destiny's stream because of the posts here. Incredibly annoying. Ragey. Stupid. I wouldn't be worried about his elo. There are players like shake and durr at 1800 who will just take all his elo away. I think they might have gotten too used to other players being competent at their roles at 2200+ though, so they'll have to figure that out how to carry again. Edging out a win by playing that 5% better isn't a viable strategy with the variability of play I find at 1800.


the only way to get out of 1800 is mass game or just get lucky at that elo, you have maybe a...3% chance of changing the outcome of the game. Season 3 is even more snowbally than season 2 and I didnt think that was possible lol. has anyone played a close game ever?


So if everyone has a 3% of changing the outcome of the game, the ten players (assuming all solo queue) have a total 30% chance of changing the outcome.

Where do the other 70% come from?


The math checks out. He assumes that the other players play normally.

I dunno if 3% is right. It obviously depends on how close you are to your true elo and other individual factors though so much that it's kind of pointless to apply a number so small or any number at all.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 03 2013 17:31 GMT
#5248
I love watching yellowpete+krepo duoing. The communication is so fun to listen to.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
January 03 2013 18:09 GMT
#5249
Who do you think are gonna make it to the lan finals @ eu qualifier?
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
January 03 2013 19:05 GMT
#5250
Zzz need to find a good support to carry my semi-new ADC friend on. Taric too boring for me, Janna has good peeling power but has to play too safe for his style. Maybe Fid or Lux support?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:09:05
January 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#5251
On January 04 2013 04:05 Mondeezy wrote:
Zzz need to find a good support to carry my semi-new ADC friend on. Taric too boring for me, Janna has good peeling power but has to play too safe for his style. Maybe Fid or Lux support?

Lulu or Zyra. Especially on Zyra since you can build as on off-AP Carry/support and still do decent damage.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
January 03 2013 19:14 GMT
#5252
On January 04 2013 04:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:05 Mondeezy wrote:
Zzz need to find a good support to carry my semi-new ADC friend on. Taric too boring for me, Janna has good peeling power but has to play too safe for his style. Maybe Fid or Lux support?

Lulu or Zyra. Especially on Zyra since you can build as on off-AP Carry/support and still do decent damage.


Can Zyra support effectively 1v1 one of the opposing champs? I haven't played her before but she seems strong when I play vs one.

Just to give some insight on my friend that I'm trying to teach...he insists dblades are trash item, rushes vamp scepter no matter what, and usually manages 40cs by 10mins. He does listen when I tell him to go in at least, so I'm kinda trying to carry him so that he can try to carry later lol.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 03 2013 19:17 GMT
#5253
On January 04 2013 04:14 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:05 Mondeezy wrote:
Zzz need to find a good support to carry my semi-new ADC friend on. Taric too boring for me, Janna has good peeling power but has to play too safe for his style. Maybe Fid or Lux support?

Lulu or Zyra. Especially on Zyra since you can build as on off-AP Carry/support and still do decent damage.


Can Zyra support effectively 1v1 one of the opposing champs? I haven't played her before but she seems strong when I play vs one.

Just to give some insight on my friend that I'm trying to teach...he insists dblades are trash item, rushes vamp scepter no matter what, and usually manages 40cs by 10mins. He does listen when I tell him to go in at least, so I'm kinda trying to carry him so that he can try to carry later lol.


You should go 2 bruisers bot.You'd be surprised how easy it is to get kills at low level :D.

Play sona or lulu if you want to carry him in lane.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 03 2013 19:20 GMT
#5254
Yeah, you can play one of those wussy supports.

Unless you.... feel like a man.

[image loading]
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 03 2013 19:33 GMT
#5255
On January 04 2013 02:10 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 02:01 TheLink wrote:
And poor chu at 1k. Way cooler than those pro-ragers.

I really dont know why he didnt try to qualify for season 3.


first of all if you're talking about chu8, he's nowhere near good enough to play competitively
second of all he is a sub on EPIK if i'm to believe what their ranked roster is
third he's also on several other potentially ranked-5s-qualified teams
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:40:34
January 03 2013 19:35 GMT
#5256
On January 04 2013 04:14 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:05 Mondeezy wrote:
Zzz need to find a good support to carry my semi-new ADC friend on. Taric too boring for me, Janna has good peeling power but has to play too safe for his style. Maybe Fid or Lux support?

Lulu or Zyra. Especially on Zyra since you can build as on off-AP Carry/support and still do decent damage.


Can Zyra support effectively 1v1 one of the opposing champs? I haven't played her before but she seems strong when I play vs one.

Just to give some insight on my friend that I'm trying to teach...he insists dblades are trash item, rushes vamp scepter no matter what, and usually manages 40cs by 10mins. He does listen when I tell him to go in at least, so I'm kinda trying to carry him so that he can try to carry later lol.

She has a lot of dueling potential, I wouldn't recommend trying to 1v1 the enemy ADC, but if they were bad it could be done. She shouldn't have too much trouble against other supports either. Basically Zyra works well because if you really want to carry you can just build straight AP. The way I usually like to go is Sightstone->Sorc Shoes->Haunting Guise->Locket-> Bulwark, that way I can dominate lane but transition into more support-y items during teamfight. If you can get the gold and just want to build D-cap though more power to you. Especially if he's missing CS and you can pick it up with your own AA.

Edit: You just meant ANY champ, yeah if you build AP she can blow someone up if you hit them with her full combo.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:43:08
January 03 2013 19:37 GMT
#5257
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/22769-is-the-elo-rating-system-accurate

This is really interesting because it goes beyond the simple "yes elohell exist" or "no it does not". He explain greatly how statistically the elo system is at the same time very precise and random under a few hundred games (200 elo variation, high % for a 1100 elo to hit 1400 or even gold).
To say the least, elo is accurate, but clearly less accurate for a team game such as LOL than for a 1v1 game such as SC2, and it needs more overall game to stabilize itself, which can leave the impression of elo hell for a few dozen games.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
January 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#5258
On January 04 2013 04:33 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 02:10 ExoFun wrote:
On January 04 2013 02:01 TheLink wrote:
And poor chu at 1k. Way cooler than those pro-ragers.

I really dont know why he didnt try to qualify for season 3.


first of all if you're talking about chu8, he's nowhere near good enough to play competitively
second of all he is a sub on EPIK if i'm to believe what their ranked roster is
third he's also on several other potentially ranked-5s-qualified teams


IMO he is good enough to play competitively, he just spends too much time trying to do innovative things in SoloQ. He definitely has the experience seeing as he was the Rank 1 player in HoN for some time. I just think he needs to stop messing around and practice competitive champs instead of hybrid Yi if he wants a shot on a really good team.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:41:43
January 03 2013 19:41 GMT
#5259
I think that figure is actually within expectation. I don't think anyone sensibly can expect Elo to be accurate to more than + or - 150 Elo.

The problem is players expecting Elo to have higher resolution than it actually does (overstating the difference in 150 Elo), plus people effectively doubling what they perceive to be the level of error by viewing themselves to be at the level of their peak Elo, rather than their average (e.g. viewing themselves as a "1400 Elo player" when they got to a high of 1400 once and never got there again).
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:49:40
January 03 2013 19:48 GMT
#5260
On January 04 2013 04:41 TheYango wrote:
I think that figure is actually within expectation. I don't think anyone sensibly can expect Elo to be accurate to more than + or - 150 Elo.

The problem is players expecting Elo to have higher resolution than it actually does (overstating the difference in 150 Elo), plus people effectively doubling what they perceive to be the level of error by viewing themselves to be at the level of their peak Elo, rather than their average (e.g. viewing themselves as a "1400 Elo player" when they got to a high of 1400 once and never got there again).

Yes there is certainly a certain cognitiv bias regarding the way you perceived yourself and your elo.
But more than that, as the elo system can be random for a few number of games (he says a dozen), needs a couple hundred games to really stabilize itself, and that most of the LoL players are casual, not to mention that games a way longer than many other games, it is understandable that many people feel that they are not at the level they should (not that they are right) because they actually have to play more (in hour) to reach the level they actually have, or to understand that they really belong to this elo.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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