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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#1681
On October 28 2012 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 09:46 HazMat wrote:
"Well played by both teams."

haha.

Hai is pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hai being benched.

Standard caster jargon.
I know I personally have no idea what to say after a one-sided stomp.....

Well it was more of both teams failing pretty hard.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#1682
On October 28 2012 09:47 Agnosthar wrote:
Where did Eve and Kata lane? Only caught the end.


Eve mid, Kata top. Kata 1v2 against Doubledoco.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 00:54:42
October 28 2012 00:52 GMT
#1683
On October 28 2012 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 09:46 HazMat wrote:
"Well played by both teams."

haha.

Hai is pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hai being benched.

Standard caster jargon.
I know I personally have no idea what to say after a one-sided stomp.....

Maybe try to exaggerate how big the skill difference was between the team and desribe the game with phrases like "iceberg smashing stomp" and "utter destruction and demoralization" and "overcoming the skill difference is going to be more difficult than swimming across the atlantic ocean in 3 hours"

edit: or maybe you can try to feign utter boredom by fake yawning and making sleep-related noises.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 01:01:43
October 28 2012 00:55 GMT
#1684
Tried out new TT.

It is significantly worse (by an order of magnitude) over the old TT.

King of the Hill is even worse than I'd imagined. The new items are not balanced for the champs that are already too strong on the map -- it would've made more sense trying to only add items for weak champs, not just exploding the strength of existing powerhouses. Permanent vision on the KotH shit just compounds how bad it is.

The placement of jungle camps and their lack of strength further detracts from the dynamics of the game. There is no longer any meaningful thought involved in either jungling or being in position to help a lane since your now about 5 seconds from any lane at all points in time. If you get behind you're completely fucked as a laner since you can't rely on jungle ganks due to how trivial it is to countergank and get help from the other lane (making it a 3v3 where you're already weaker).

Removing wards and a GA is just the biggest joke of them all. The dynamics of fighting or defending around GAs is extremely meaningful.

It's really a shame. TT needed a couple tweaks and instead they turned it into the mini-game better known as Dominion.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 28 2012 00:55 GMT
#1685
Does anyone know the logic behind Lich rush over Dcap on Twisted Fate? Is it for the movespeed to be more mobile? Is it for tower sieging? jiji did it that last game. I've seen Misaya and others do it as well. I know that getting Sheen for more burst in lane is common but was unsure which scenarios you'd want to get Lich before Dcap.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#1686
On October 28 2012 09:55 overt wrote:
Does anyone know the logic behind Lich rush over Dcap on Twisted Fate? Is it for the movespeed to be more mobile? Is it for tower sieging? jiji did it that last game. I've seen Misaya and others do it as well. I know that getting Sheen for more burst in lane is common but was unsure which scenarios you'd want to get Lich before Dcap.


It's really strong for both map presence and pushing towers. What happened multiple times was Loco shielding jiji and Jiji just chunks the tower for a lot of damage with Blue Card + LB proc.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#1687
Lol at the fiddlesticks ban
Glorious SEA doto
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#1688
On October 28 2012 09:52 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 28 2012 09:46 HazMat wrote:
"Well played by both teams."

haha.

Hai is pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hai being benched.

Standard caster jargon.
I know I personally have no idea what to say after a one-sided stomp.....

Maybe try to exaggerate how big the skill difference was between the team and desribe the game with phrases like "iceberg smashing stomp" and "utter destruction and demoralization" and "overcoming the skill difference is going to be more difficult than swimming across the atlantic ocean in 3 hours"

edit: or maybe you can try to feign utter boredom by fake yawning and making sleep-related noises.

Lol I wasn't even watching the game I just got on before I head to a party so I assumed it was one-sided.
And Scip I think the general idea (although I'm pretty sure you were being facetious) is to be positive and avoid pointing out ridiculous glaring errors in play.

Not sure why, but that seems to be the way to do it.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#1689
On October 28 2012 09:57 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 09:55 overt wrote:
Does anyone know the logic behind Lich rush over Dcap on Twisted Fate? Is it for the movespeed to be more mobile? Is it for tower sieging? jiji did it that last game. I've seen Misaya and others do it as well. I know that getting Sheen for more burst in lane is common but was unsure which scenarios you'd want to get Lich before Dcap.


It's really strong for both map presence and pushing towers. What happened multiple times was Loco shielding jiji and Jiji just chunks the tower for a lot of damage with Blue Card + LB proc.


Yeah I know that for hitting a tower once a wave you could chunk it down quicker with Lichbane rush. The movespeed boost also helps since TF is pretty slow. If you're moving around the map a lot as a team Lichbane makes sense to me.

But for long sieges or solo pushing Dcap's probably better.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
October 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#1690
On October 28 2012 09:57 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 09:55 overt wrote:
Does anyone know the logic behind Lich rush over Dcap on Twisted Fate? Is it for the movespeed to be more mobile? Is it for tower sieging? jiji did it that last game. I've seen Misaya and others do it as well. I know that getting Sheen for more burst in lane is common but was unsure which scenarios you'd want to get Lich before Dcap.


It's really strong for both map presence and pushing towers. What happened multiple times was Loco shielding jiji and Jiji just chunks the tower for a lot of damage with Blue Card + LB proc.


Yeah but the proc isn't much more than just Sheen. I think it's more for the movespeed which helps with kiting etc, although of course having some extra damage on the proc is good too.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 28 2012 01:02 GMT
#1691
IEM Singapore Qualifier Finals CLG.na vs NFNP (Orbit) game 3

Bans: Ashe Malphite Fiddlesticks Shen Maokai Rengar

Picks: Orianna Zyra Ezreal Lee Sin Nunu Jax Nocturne Caitlyn Irelia Twisted Fate

Inb4 Chauster says on stream he's a better Lee Sin than Diamond.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 28 2012 01:02 GMT
#1692
On October 28 2012 08:39 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 08:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:24 Numy wrote:
What is CLG doing lol. Chauster is just doing nothing, loco goes for flash pulv but chauster and double are too far away to get the secured kill. Jiji doesn't stun over the wall instead runs into horrible position 2v1 and does. In fact the only lane that is doing well is Hotshot ROFL.

Chauster going HoG on Lee oO. Don't think i've ever seen Diamond do that.

It use to be common before the hog nerf. It was built either after 2 dblade, or the wriggles.

When do you build 2 dblades over a wriggles?

when i'm too fucking lazy to buy boots 3pot, and i feel going ballz to the walls.
liftlift > tsm
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
October 28 2012 01:06 GMT
#1693
Looking forward to seeing Irelia vs Jax. Whenever I play or watch the matchup Jax always seems to win unless it's Wickd.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#1694
"Skin-timidation. But it has absolutely no affect on the match what-so-ever."

LIES. SKINS = POWAH.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#1695
On October 28 2012 10:06 Agnosthar wrote:
Looking forward to seeing Irelia vs Jax. Whenever I play or watch the matchup Jax always seems to win unless it's Wickd.


It's mostly a war of attrition between either Jax getting his E out when Irelia has W activated or Irelia activating W after Jax E ends.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 01:11:43
October 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#1696
On October 28 2012 10:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 08:39 scarper65 wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:24 Numy wrote:
What is CLG doing lol. Chauster is just doing nothing, loco goes for flash pulv but chauster and double are too far away to get the secured kill. Jiji doesn't stun over the wall instead runs into horrible position 2v1 and does. In fact the only lane that is doing well is Hotshot ROFL.

Chauster going HoG on Lee oO. Don't think i've ever seen Diamond do that.

It use to be common before the hog nerf. It was built either after 2 dblade, or the wriggles.

When do you build 2 dblades over a wriggles?

when i'm too fucking lazy to buy boots 3pot, and i feel going ballz to the walls.

2DBlade is superior in early fights/scuffles, while Wriggle's kicks in a bit later. A lot of Wriggle's cost-effectiveness comes from indirect means (faster farming/Dragoning through the proc, Wards, etc.), and only really kicks in when the item is completed--the parts themselves are not terribly cost-effective. In terms of direct fighting ability, DBlades and the corresponding follow-up are much stronger. 2x DBlade gives much better direct fighting ability than a Madred's Razor. Similarly, 2x DBlade + Tabi gives much better direct fighting power than Boots+Razor+Vamp.

As such, this item selection should correspond more or less to what your gameplan is given the champs in the game.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 28 2012 01:15 GMT
#1697
Hai doing pretty terrible. Buy dblade on jangle Noc, die when invade
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 01:16:33
October 28 2012 01:16 GMT
#1698
To be fair to Hai that flash by Hotshot was quite ballsy. Also lol@doublelift , talk about seeing red.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 28 2012 01:16 GMT
#1699
On October 28 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 10:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:39 scarper65 wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 28 2012 08:24 Numy wrote:
What is CLG doing lol. Chauster is just doing nothing, loco goes for flash pulv but chauster and double are too far away to get the secured kill. Jiji doesn't stun over the wall instead runs into horrible position 2v1 and does. In fact the only lane that is doing well is Hotshot ROFL.

Chauster going HoG on Lee oO. Don't think i've ever seen Diamond do that.

It use to be common before the hog nerf. It was built either after 2 dblade, or the wriggles.

When do you build 2 dblades over a wriggles?

when i'm too fucking lazy to buy boots 3pot, and i feel going ballz to the walls.

2DBlade is superior in early fights/scuffles, while Wriggle's kicks in a bit later. A lot of Wriggle's cost-effectiveness comes from indirect means (faster farming/Dragoning through the proc, Wards, etc.), and only really kicks in when the item is completed--the parts themselves are not terribly cost-effective. In terms of direct fighting ability, DBlades and the corresponding follow-up are much stronger. 2x DBlade gives much better direct fighting ability than a Madred's Razor. Similarly, 2x DBlade + Tabi gives much better direct fighting power than Boots+Razor+Vamp.

As such, this item selection should correspond more or less to what your gameplan is given the champs in the game.

Yeah, what Yango said^.
The strength of Lee Sin is the early game, I like compounding his strength with dblades.
liftlift > tsm
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 28 2012 01:16 GMT
#1700
haha doublelift at it again :D
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