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Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
August 24 2012 11:21 GMT
#2481
They zoned Snoopeh sure but Ahri had no ult to dive and kill Kog.

As for DFG on Karthus is great for whoever dives in first for Najin, Wall DFG, open defile, Q him = insta 50%.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
August 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#2482
On August 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:
Hrmm dfg on karthus............. I've seen froggen building DFG on EVERYTHING lately on his stream but still, I really think dcap would be better than dfg, the cdr is nice but the damage is mdeiocre.

Also krepo's actually pretty close in item count to leona, najin's warded so much of everything

pause atm?

Isn't CDR pretty bad for karthus? I mean his Q is spammable already, i only see it beining usefull if you can't get your ult up in time for large fight's
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
August 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#2483
On August 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:
Hrmm dfg on karthus............. I've seen froggen building DFG on EVERYTHING lately on his stream but still, I really think dcap would be better than dfg, the cdr is nice but the damage is mdeiocre.

well I wonder if it's not above all a deterrent (we're going to engage lol better get out) : a few minutes earlier, ahri ulti'd out juste after being dfg'd but clg.eu couldn't really engage on her but ssong had to react quickly so I wonder if this is not a way to try and make people waste flashs etc
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#2484
On August 24 2012 20:20 Slayer91 wrote:
Little does Najin know they're used to playing without their jungler doing anything :D
Yellowpete Kog MVP 100% this game.

Hahaha so true. :D

Pete and Wickd have kept CLG in this imo.
Off-season = best season
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#2485
On August 24 2012 20:22 romanov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:
Hrmm dfg on karthus............. I've seen froggen building DFG on EVERYTHING lately on his stream but still, I really think dcap would be better than dfg, the cdr is nice but the damage is mdeiocre.

Also krepo's actually pretty close in item count to leona, najin's warded so much of everything

pause atm?

Isn't CDR pretty bad for karthus? I mean his Q is spammable already, i only see it beining usefull if you can't get your ult up in time for large fight's


Wall and Ult are both pretty damn useful.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 24 2012 11:23 GMT
#2486
On August 24 2012 20:20 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:
Hrmm dfg on karthus............. I've seen froggen building DFG on EVERYTHING lately on his stream but still, I really think dcap would be better than dfg, the cdr is nice but the damage is mdeiocre.

Also krepo's actually pretty close in item count to leona, najin's warded so much of everything

pause atm?

DGF Karthus is not new. You go dive the enemy team, DFG the carry and start to wail on them with Q. The enemy team HAS to deal with you right then and there. The idea is that the enemy team cannot ignore you at all or risk losing their backline which lets your AD right-click all over them.


But Froggen is actually one of those Karthus that tries to stay alive as long as possible as you could see in the last teamfight compared to players like e.g. Reginald who use wall-flash-E as initiate lol, I prefer Froggen's playstyle but I guess dying in the middle of the enemy team with defile is ok but Froggen shouldnt necessarily be in range of the enemy carry to DFG him.

Nevertheless its an ok item since it gives some extra burst and the cdr is pretty good considering the long ult cd.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:24:24
August 24 2012 11:23 GMT
#2487
Actually wickd might get MVP for never dying as well.
Wickd really shows why he's on CLG eu when he's playing irelia.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
August 24 2012 11:26 GMT
#2488
On August 24 2012 20:22 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:22 romanov wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:19 Lmui wrote:
Hrmm dfg on karthus............. I've seen froggen building DFG on EVERYTHING lately on his stream but still, I really think dcap would be better than dfg, the cdr is nice but the damage is mdeiocre.

Also krepo's actually pretty close in item count to leona, najin's warded so much of everything

pause atm?

Isn't CDR pretty bad for karthus? I mean his Q is spammable already, i only see it beining usefull if you can't get your ult up in time for large fight's


Wall and Ult are both pretty damn useful.

and cdr is HUGE dps boost for q
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
August 24 2012 11:26 GMT
#2489
I don't like the idea of sending kogmaw bottom, that seems like such a huge risk vs reward thing. compared to sending snoopeh.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 24 2012 11:27 GMT
#2490
The shen split push is the most boring thing in LoL right now. I wish it did not exist

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:28:44
August 24 2012 11:27 GMT
#2491
TF GA on Irelia, pretty scary.

Soon she'll be close to unkillable if Ahri+Graves don't get all their damage in.

@above: Yeah, Shen just stalls games. With Shen a lot of teams just don't force anything because they think that they have the advantage with splitpushing ><
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 24 2012 11:28 GMT
#2492
They let EU get all cores..
aegis nunu
frozen heart negatron malph
trinity/ga irelia
ie/pd kog
dfg/roa/almost dcap karthus.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2493
CLGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2494
Oh CLG.EU. How I love thee for thy skills <3
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romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2495
MAH BOYS!!!
calin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia107 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2496
CLG EU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2497
FLAWLESS ACEUUUUU
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2498
Holy shit Pete and Wickd so stronk!
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2499
ACUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLG.EU comeback!
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:29:35
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2500
DAMN. Najin Sword's out of time. CLG lategame just kicked in.
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