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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
May 22 2012 07:36 GMT
#4381
On May 22 2012 15:50 Chrispy wrote:
Can someone explain to me Saintvicious's constant coughing? Dude does a little *cough* every 30 seconds...


iirc Saint has a problem with reflux, which is exacerbated by his lifestyle of drinking (since alcohol tends to be quite acidic).
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 07:41:27
May 22 2012 07:41 GMT
#4382
hotshotgg's weakness:

- wrong item build like above mentioned: buys doran shields, and he hates gp5 items for some reason

- he is mechanically bad... like, i was surprised lol, he misses every skill shots, every time..

- never gank, have to farm trolol...especially he never ganks bot lane

- never write down the jungle timers: "school is useless, and i am bad at math"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 22 2012 08:01 GMT
#4383
On May 22 2012 16:36 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 15:50 Chrispy wrote:
Can someone explain to me Saintvicious's constant coughing? Dude does a little *cough* every 30 seconds...


iirc Saint has a problem with reflux, which is exacerbated by his lifestyle of drinking (since alcohol tends to be quite acidic).


... how do ppl know these things
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 22 2012 08:11 GMT
#4384
On May 22 2012 17:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:36 Niton wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:50 Chrispy wrote:
Can someone explain to me Saintvicious's constant coughing? Dude does a little *cough* every 30 seconds...


iirc Saint has a problem with reflux, which is exacerbated by his lifestyle of drinking (since alcohol tends to be quite acidic).


... how do ppl know these things

PI I'd say.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 22 2012 08:16 GMT
#4385
On May 22 2012 13:35 BlackPaladin wrote:
Letting hotshot jungle is like letting Soniv play TF.

Funny?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
May 22 2012 08:22 GMT
#4386
On May 22 2012 17:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:36 Niton wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:50 Chrispy wrote:
Can someone explain to me Saintvicious's constant coughing? Dude does a little *cough* every 30 seconds...


iirc Saint has a problem with reflux, which is exacerbated by his lifestyle of drinking (since alcohol tends to be quite acidic).


... how do ppl know these things


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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 08:26:20
May 22 2012 08:24 GMT
#4387
On May 22 2012 16:41 emucxg wrote:
hotshotgg's weakness:

- wrong item build like above mentioned: buys doran shields, and he hates gp5 items for some reason

- he is mechanically bad... like, i was surprised lol, he misses every skill shots, every time..

- never gank, have to farm trolol...especially he never ganks bot lane

- never write down the jungle timers: "school is useless, and i am bad at math"


Judging from his Udyr game Hotshot has the worst possible attitude for jungling. A good jungler does at least a modicum of research before using an unfamiliar champion, whether by testing them in a custom game or looking up a build. A good jungler is also observant of what other players do in games. Hotshot apparently scorns both research and observation, unless there's a better explanation for that game.

On May 22 2012 13:35 BlackPaladin wrote:
Letting hotshot jungle is like letting Soniv play TF.


I know Hotshot's Udyr game was bad, but is he really that bad?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 22 2012 08:28 GMT
#4388
You guys make Soniv's TF sound like a travesty, it can be that bad.....right?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 22 2012 08:46 GMT
#4389
Saint banning people in his chat for shittalking regi lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 22 2012 08:49 GMT
#4390
On May 22 2012 17:28 MooMooMugi wrote:
You guys make Soniv's TF sound like a travesty, it can be that bad.....right?

theres a reason i always have to ban tf in tl b games and its not because we're afraid of the enemy team having tf.
GANDHISAUCE
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
May 22 2012 08:52 GMT
#4391
On May 22 2012 17:49 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 17:28 MooMooMugi wrote:
You guys make Soniv's TF sound like a travesty, it can be that bad.....right?

theres a reason i always have to ban tf in tl b games and its not because we're afraid of the enemy team having tf.


I dunno man I'm afraid of it ^_^
FruitMarket
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 09:32:10
May 22 2012 09:25 GMT
#4392
On May 22 2012 16:41 emucxg wrote:
hotshotgg's weakness:

- wrong item build like above mentioned: buys doran shields, and he hates gp5 items for some reason

- he is mechanically bad... like, i was surprised lol, he misses every skill shots, every time..

- never gank, have to farm trolol...especially he never ganks bot lane

- never write down the jungle timers: "school is useless, and i am bad at math"

I don't think he's too bad mechanically. He's very fluid in his skill usage and fighting, but he does misjudge ranges on things a lot (nautilus' hook especially - he misses hooking a wall so much by just a bit each time). He also seems to try to do flashy moves just because they look cool even though they are super risky. That could be because it's solo queue so who knows.

And the funny thing about his farming is that his jungling is the complete opposite of his laning. He just ganks all day or camps a lane for so long and never farms. It's hard for him to ever break 80 cs after 20 minutes. He just tries to exert his presence so much even when there's no chance for a kill and ends up wasting time and exp so he almost always transitions terribly into late game. Again, he tries to be flashy and sneaky a lot and counterjungles at random times and takes super obscure paths because he "knows" there's a ward there.

He's got a lot of work to and I don't see him getting better in time for any major tournament unless he starts listening to advice from anyone about how to jungle.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 22 2012 09:25 GMT
#4393
On May 22 2012 17:49 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 17:28 MooMooMugi wrote:
You guys make Soniv's TF sound like a travesty, it can be that bad.....right?

theres a reason i always have to ban tf in tl b games and its not because we're afraid of the enemy team having tf.


two reasons. two_down.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 22 2012 09:33 GMT
#4394
Dont forget, its never hotshots fault

Watching snoopeh stream atm, so much more control and calmness. Hes more like Ok lets kill this, ping it, engage, get it, steal some farm and admit when he makes a mistake.
KCCO!
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 22 2012 09:53 GMT
#4395
Coming back on the rumors for crs, if saint is actually recruiting some1, i'm callin a lilac
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 22 2012 09:59 GMT
#4396
On May 22 2012 18:53 SagaZ wrote:
Coming back on the rumors for crs, if saint is actually recruiting some1, i'm callin a lilac

ya that was my guess as well. saint said the player had to talk to his coach about it and lilac atm is jungling for a team because they couldnt find an actual jungler lol.
GANDHISAUCE
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 22 2012 10:08 GMT
#4397
On May 22 2012 18:53 SagaZ wrote:
Coming back on the rumors for crs, if saint is actually recruiting some1, i'm callin a lilac


Isn't he on a Korean team?

Speaking which, isnt Crs getting a teamhouse? I could see their teamhouse being as much of a gongshow as TSM's...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 22 2012 12:06 GMT
#4398
On May 22 2012 18:53 SagaZ wrote:
Coming back on the rumors for crs, if saint is actually recruiting some1, i'm callin a lilac

If we're looking at non-US recruits as a possibility, MikakoTabe is more likely, seeing as he's a) still team-less I think, and b) interested in playing a US team.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#4399
On May 22 2012 21:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 18:53 SagaZ wrote:
Coming back on the rumors for crs, if saint is actually recruiting some1, i'm callin a lilac

If we're looking at non-US recruits as a possibility, MikakoTabe is more likely, seeing as he's a) still team-less I think, and b) interested in playing a US team.

Saint did say the guy he's considering is on a pro team, didn't he?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 22 2012 12:31 GMT
#4400
LAOCHING just for shen
cool beans
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