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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 25 2012 21:28 GMT
#1961
On April 26 2012 06:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:23 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:16 Slayer91 wrote:
He brought loads of players over to LoL, if every douche brought over 1k players to LoL then everybody would be playing it.


I don't know, do you really want people that follow a douche? Not to say Athene is one I don't know him personally or from his videos.


I was a pretty big fan of athene back when he made the funny wow videos. He is a pretty huge troll but overall he seems to have good intentions.

And considering the average LoL player I don't see have an athene fan is any different

My memory is kinda hazy but when he first made that account wasn't his girlfriend or sister in all his videos who only made videos with seducing thumbnails to attract viewers? Everyone thought he was a girl until he came out of the closet and started the #1 Paladin stuff?


He had dupe videos with slutty headers and thumbnail was of his girlfriend tanja but he still held on to a lot of the intital viewers. He's a business man, he gets as many customers as possible and then a certain percentage become regulars.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#1962
Server down? Game just froze in picks + league site is down.

GLOBAL DDOS
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Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
April 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#1963
On April 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:23 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:16 Slayer91 wrote:
He brought loads of players over to LoL, if every douche brought over 1k players to LoL then everybody would be playing it.


I don't know, do you really want people that follow a douche? Not to say Athene is one I don't know him personally or from his videos.


I was a pretty big fan of athene back when he made the funny wow videos. He is a pretty huge troll but overall he seems to have good intentions.

And considering the average LoL player I don't see have an athene fan is any different

My memory is kinda hazy but when he first made that account wasn't his girlfriend or sister in all his videos who only made videos with seducing thumbnails to attract viewers? Everyone thought he was a girl until he came out of the closet and started the #1 Paladin stuff?


He had dupe videos with slutty headers and thumbnail was of his girlfriend tanja but he still held on to a lot of the intital viewers. He's a business man, he gets as many customers as possible and then a certain percentage become regulars.


It's because noone was watching his videos when he first started so he did that to create a fan base (of sorts).

Also, I don't think the new "Athene" item is too good. It costs almost 3000 gold, where 3600 gets you a deathcap, it's just going to delay your damage. Mana regen is only really a problem early game, when getting blue is hard. IMO people will get it at the start, but once they've used it a few days, only champs who are using chalice now will get it.
LOUD NOISES!!!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 25 2012 21:45 GMT
#1964
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 25 2012 21:47 GMT
#1965
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
April 25 2012 21:47 GMT
#1966
On April 26 2012 06:42 Lorken wrote:
Also, I don't think the new "Athene" item is too good. It costs almost 3000 gold, where 3600 gets you a deathcap, it's just going to delay your damage. Mana regen is only really a problem early game, when getting blue is hard. IMO people will get it at the start, but once they've used it a few days, only champs who are using chalice now will get it.

What is good with this item is that it makes the Chalice build into something.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 25 2012 21:49 GMT
#1967
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


so now you don't have to buy chalice on mumu and can buy a blasting wand + a ward + pots instead and dominate the midgame
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 25 2012 21:53 GMT
#1968
On April 26 2012 06:42 Lorken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:23 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:16 Slayer91 wrote:
He brought loads of players over to LoL, if every douche brought over 1k players to LoL then everybody would be playing it.


I don't know, do you really want people that follow a douche? Not to say Athene is one I don't know him personally or from his videos.


I was a pretty big fan of athene back when he made the funny wow videos. He is a pretty huge troll but overall he seems to have good intentions.

And considering the average LoL player I don't see have an athene fan is any different

My memory is kinda hazy but when he first made that account wasn't his girlfriend or sister in all his videos who only made videos with seducing thumbnails to attract viewers? Everyone thought he was a girl until he came out of the closet and started the #1 Paladin stuff?


He had dupe videos with slutty headers and thumbnail was of his girlfriend tanja but he still held on to a lot of the intital viewers. He's a business man, he gets as many customers as possible and then a certain percentage become regulars.


It's because noone was watching his videos when he first started so he did that to create a fan base (of sorts).

Also, I don't think the new "Athene" item is too good. It costs almost 3000 gold, where 3600 gets you a deathcap, it's just going to delay your damage. Mana regen is only really a problem early game, when getting blue is hard. IMO people will get it at the start, but once they've used it a few days, only champs who are using chalice now will get it.


you dont rush deathcap on alot of ap carries: anivia, swain, galio for example rather want survivability + mana and champions that deal sustained damage like cassio want survivability as well. This item fits very well into the game and will be a n1 choice on alot of ap carries, especially along with the recent dorans ring nerf. I would consider this item even on some burst champions like veigar and kassadin who are manahungry enough to make use of it and have a weak laneing phase in alot of matchups.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 25 2012 21:54 GMT
#1969
On April 26 2012 06:49 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


so now you don't have to buy chalice on mumu and can buy a blasting wand + a ward + pots instead and dominate the midgame

Have a feeling a lot of APs wont buy it though because lol mana not enough AP.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 25 2012 21:56 GMT
#1970
On April 26 2012 06:42 Lorken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:23 Slayer91 wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:16 Slayer91 wrote:
He brought loads of players over to LoL, if every douche brought over 1k players to LoL then everybody would be playing it.


I don't know, do you really want people that follow a douche? Not to say Athene is one I don't know him personally or from his videos.


I was a pretty big fan of athene back when he made the funny wow videos. He is a pretty huge troll but overall he seems to have good intentions.

And considering the average LoL player I don't see have an athene fan is any different

My memory is kinda hazy but when he first made that account wasn't his girlfriend or sister in all his videos who only made videos with seducing thumbnails to attract viewers? Everyone thought he was a girl until he came out of the closet and started the #1 Paladin stuff?


He had dupe videos with slutty headers and thumbnail was of his girlfriend tanja but he still held on to a lot of the intital viewers. He's a business man, he gets as many customers as possible and then a certain percentage become regulars.

Also, I don't think the new "Athene" item is too good. It costs almost 3000 gold, where 3600 gets you a deathcap, it's just going to delay your damage. Mana regen is only really a problem early game, when getting blue is hard. IMO people will get it at the start, but once they've used it a few days, only champs who are using chalice now will get it.

Why do people always act as if Athene UG only gives mana? It gives a pretty significant amount of AP and a good bit of MR. I don't see how it 'delays' your damage at all. You may not be able to burst people asap but its a good stepping stone and great late game option. Deathcap is good, but Athene gives so much utility and sustained damage throughout the game. And the CDR also means you never really need to buy a blue pot anymore unless your blue buff is off which will save you tons of money. And if you're defending, you can get near max CDR even without blue.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 22:05:13
April 25 2012 22:03 GMT
#1971
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


never have mana problems on Skarner after Shurelya's, I don't think Athene's is bad but people are getting on the hype train at a breakneck pace.

I've been promised a new meta over this item which is basically a morello's evil tomb with more mana regen
Carrilord has arrived.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 25 2012 22:06 GMT
#1972
On April 26 2012 07:03 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


never have mana problems on Skarner after Shurelya's, I don't think Athene's is bad but people are getting on the hype train at a breakneck pace.

I've been promised a new meta over this item which is basically a morello's evil tomb with more mana regen

Thing is, chalice is pretty underrated, and now it has a pretty neat upgrade.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 25 2012 22:08 GMT
#1973
On April 26 2012 07:03 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


never have mana problems on Skarner after Shurelya's, I don't think Athene's is bad but people are getting on the hype train at a breakneck pace.

It's an item that gives AP mids ALL the stats they'll ever want. And lots of them to boot.
Baller Mreg, CDR, 80 AP is pretty good too, decent MR.

Mark my words, unbeliever: If they don't "nerf" it, it shall be greatly OP.
The only reason Chalice is not meta is that it has no lategame transition, which was how it was balanced.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 25 2012 22:31 GMT
#1974
On April 26 2012 06:54 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:49 gtrsrs wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


so now you don't have to buy chalice on mumu and can buy a blasting wand + a ward + pots instead and dominate the midgame

Have a feeling a lot of APs wont buy it though because lol mana not enough AP.


it gives as much ap as a NLR while also making you invincible to burst from your laning oponent and enough mana that you can donate your blue to the jungler who will be able to get way ahead with it

can't see the following people NOT getting it if not rushing it:
galio, veigar, ryze, anivia, cassieopiea, cho'gath, morgana (maybe after zonya), swain, orianna
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 25 2012 22:33 GMT
#1975
On April 26 2012 06:49 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


so now you don't have to buy chalice on mumu and can buy a blasting wand + a ward + pots instead and dominate the midgame


I already don't buy Chalice on Amumu. Are people spamming Q while they run around the jungle or something? o.O
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1976
I know this sounds stupid, but do you guys ever think riot will make boots+3 pots an inferior opening for most champions? I mean everyone can do it, and most people do it aswell.
hi
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1977
On April 26 2012 07:33 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:49 gtrsrs wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:47 JackDino wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:45 gtrsrs wrote:
you guys are crazy, new chalice is going to open a whole new world of mana-dependent jungle+mid combinations. you can finally run amumu/skarner now and still have a mana-based mid

gonna be a great item

Never have mana issues on mumu with philo/chalice though.


so now you don't have to buy chalice on mumu and can buy a blasting wand + a ward + pots instead and dominate the midgame


I already don't buy Chalice on Amumu. Are people spamming Q while they run around the jungle or something? o.O


yeah i don't understand that either. philo hog aegis ap. always play conservatively, never run out of mana. but with blue buff you can spam unlimited E and Q!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 25 2012 22:46 GMT
#1978
so i heard MiG Frost Jacksparrow runs all crit dmg runes on top shaco in Korea
thats 45.51% crit dmg + masteries
WELL I WONDER WHERE MY NEXT 25K IP IS GOING
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 25 2012 22:49 GMT
#1979
On April 26 2012 07:46 Kenpachi wrote:
so i heard MiG Frost Jacksparrow runs all crit dmg runes on top shaco in Korea
thats 45.51% crit dmg + masteries
WELL I WONDER WHERE MY NEXT 25K IP IS GOING


and how do you trigger it?
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 25 2012 22:50 GMT
#1980
On April 26 2012 07:49 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:46 Kenpachi wrote:
so i heard MiG Frost Jacksparrow runs all crit dmg runes on top shaco in Korea
thats 45.51% crit dmg + masteries
WELL I WONDER WHERE MY NEXT 25K IP IS GOING


and how do you trigger it?

deceive
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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