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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#6501
Strange, it didn't restart for me. ôo Well, the joys of soundless watching, can't hear when they warn.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 17 2012 12:15 GMT
#6502
On April 17 2012 14:59 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 14:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 17 2012 14:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On April 17 2012 14:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:18 SwizzY wrote:
Don't know if this is right place to ask this,

but which heroes counter Ziggs well? Only laned against him a few times and feel like a good Ziggs player has a ridiculously easy time zoning, especially bot lane with a support


Shameless Viktor plug. Also, good ganks hurt Ziggs. I've found that he has a tough time escaping once someone is next to him.



But . . .but, I thought victor sucks and is a horrible champion and should never be picked! :O

Btw, do you smartcast victor laser?


I have no problems sharing Viktor's power with the members of TL. I may or may not, however, have gone into the LoL GD earlier today and upvoted false statements and downvoted true statements about him o.o

I do not smart cast it. I tried getting used to it, but I don't really like it. I can control the angles way more reliably without smart cast.


Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 14:14 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On April 17 2012 14:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:18 SwizzY wrote:
Don't know if this is right place to ask this,

but which heroes counter Ziggs well? Only laned against him a few times and feel like a good Ziggs player has a ridiculously easy time zoning, especially bot lane with a support


Shameless Viktor plug. Also, good ganks hurt Ziggs. I've found that he has a tough time escaping once someone is next to him.



But . . .but, I thought victor sucks and is a horrible champion and should never be picked! :O

Btw, do you smartcast victor laser?


Everyone should smartcast Viktor's lazer, as it is the only skill in the game where you dont actually lose any precision from smartcasting. When set to smart cast you can simply click and drag while holding down the key to display the targeting graphic, release to fire. The only change from non-smartcast to smartcast is you dont have to click the second time, which allows you to it it off faster if you need to, you can still get the range and graphic with smartcast for casting accurately. I hold down and make sure its lined up just right when clearing waves, then just use a flick motion to cast at champs in fights.

TLDR: Smartcast always on lazer, its better in every way.


A little late, but I was asleep, and just want to respond.

I just find the smart cast on the laser feels really unnatural. After >100 games with Viktor, I've gotten to like 98% hit rate with click drag, and I never have trouble getting it out fast enough. I smart cast almost everything else in the game, I just like the feel of normal cast on the line nuke better. Really just a matter of personal preference.

I haven't gotten the bug where it goes through and does no damage since they fixed the skill width. I have gotten the stuck bug, but it was when I dragged it directly into a wall where someone was standing, and it stayed on the wall for an inordinate amount of time. It did damage the whole time and completely gibbed someone :3
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 17 2012 12:24 GMT
#6503
olaf just ghosted to get to lane faster LOL
cool beans
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 17 2012 12:29 GMT
#6504
On April 17 2012 21:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I haven't gotten the bug where it goes through and does no damage since they fixed the skill width. I have gotten the stuck bug, but it was when I dragged it directly into a wall where someone was standing, and it stayed on the wall for an inordinate amount of time. It did damage the whole time and completely gibbed someone :3


I had it once where it didnt stop lazering. The animation stopped but the damage kept going in a line so to speak. Picked up a nice topwave and a piece of the enemy jungler

Never had it after , tried to redo my steps but it was just one of those things that are so random I'll never see it again.

Theres so many fun bugs tho, like getting knocked up by 2 people at the same time, seems to be exponential how much up you go. Ended up spending a good minute in the clouds after 3 knockups
KCCO!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 17 2012 12:34 GMT
#6505
fnatic getting destroyed pretty hard. 12-5 to WE 15 mins in with 8k gold advantage.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 17 2012 12:34 GMT
#6506
13minute IE for ashe, in the meanwhile 3dring chalice warwick against olaf. 45 AP too strong.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 17 2012 12:36 GMT
#6507
Ye, no idea why shushei would go chalice+doran ring stack against olaf.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 17 2012 12:37 GMT
#6508
4 minutes later she gets a PD to go along with it. Also Janna working on Zeke.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 17 2012 12:43 GMT
#6509
Well, that was a stomp.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
April 17 2012 12:47 GMT
#6510
Anyone got the brackets?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 17 2012 12:52 GMT
#6511
On April 17 2012 21:47 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Anyone got the brackets?


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/se10r/go4lol_pro_asia_live_on_esl_tv_fnatic_world_elite/

Best can do atm. :<
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
April 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#6512
Quite impressive stuff from WE. Ashe rushing a BF sword against Sona Kogmaw was interesting. Fnatic's botlane getting destroyed by overextending v TF again and again was pretty painful to watch and the game snowballed from there, underleved Alistar and Kogmaw hurt them too much.

Shushei doing the best in Fnatic isn't something you see everyday.
Go go Alliance.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 17 2012 13:01 GMT
#6513
bets on WE. CG isnt particularly great for a taiwanese team
cool beans
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
April 17 2012 13:04 GMT
#6514
It's crazy how asia lol scene is so hard to keep up on in the west, but they have so many teams that are so good.
True skill comes without effort.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 17 2012 13:05 GMT
#6515
DUSTY? Joe Miller's nick was DUSTY?

Dear god. No wonder he ditched it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 17 2012 13:07 GMT
#6516
so I tried out victor and wow he's so good. Like I don't even play APs (except malz, rumble and vladimir) but I did really well. Also smartcasting is really a matter for preference. I felt more comfortable smartcasting lazer.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 17 2012 13:13 GMT
#6517
On April 17 2012 22:04 robertdinh wrote:
It's crazy how asia lol scene is so hard to keep up on in the west, but they have so many teams that are so good.


its not that hard if you try...or ask the right people (;
cool beans
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:14:15
April 17 2012 13:14 GMT
#6518
Did...that graves just use his ult.....to last hit a single creep rofl?
Cackle™
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
April 17 2012 13:22 GMT
#6519
Please correct me but doesn´t Graves ult only damage Champions? Or is that just for the collateral triggering?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:23:43
April 17 2012 13:23 GMT
#6520
Oh wow... WE starts attacking the drake, stream lag, black screen, Mundo chasing Lulu mid, black screen, 3 WE dead, black screen, ad. Wut. Can someone explain to me what happened or did it lag for everyone?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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