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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 19:14:59
March 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#21
@r.Evo :D

On March 03 2012 03:48 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i minus whale start off with a question about dota 2 since hopefully you guys have played it more than i have

i have a dota2 key. i've played about 3 games. i was an avid dota player. i remember dota in the wc3 engine was definitely not as smooth running as LoL. but in LoL i get 60 fps on low settings and the game runs without a hitch. in dota 2 it feels EXTREMELY clunky compared to LoL. like to the point that i don't even want to play because i can't last hit or anything. is that just me not used to the archaic wc3 feel again, or has dota 2 not been graphically optimized for slower computers or something? if there's a way to make it run more properly on my pc, i'd like to do that before i dive in and spend some time on it.

that being said, the thing i've yearned for in LoL ever since i hit level 10 or so and had finally seen most of the champs in the game, is storm spirit. i love his mobility and just his entire playstyle. REALLY wish they'd kept him as a panda instead of that fat mexican or whatever he is now. so hopping back into dota 2 - what a really simple pubby build i can do on storm spirit that will make me fly around the map and have all the fun?

and lastly, i haven't played dota since the ice apparition was added (and i don't remember all of the old champs either!). is there anything that compared to riven in dota? really love playing riven, would like to try something similar


edit: also, it turns out my steam name is "guitarasaurus" not "gtrsrs" if you want to update that. and i don't know how to copy my steam profile but if you tell me how i will do so!


I dunno I just feel their servers are pretty laggy. On my satellite broadband I get like 400ms to LoL EU servers and 200 to LoL SEA servers. But apparently my ping to dota singapore servers is more than my LoL eu servers lol. And I get equal ping on both singapore and NA, and like 700ms in hongkong & EU etc which is ridiculous. Plenty of people from india who use a lined connection have reported ping anywhere from 70-400ms.

Edit: also my steam name is the same as the TL account name
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2012 19:47 GMT
#22
Yup apparently steam name is Killiani.
If I ever get a legit key it'll be different.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 02 2012 19:55 GMT
#23
so, I guess I'll post my steam info here, even tho about 90% of the DotA2 time on there is my brother's not mine (i play every once in awhile tho).

i have no idea what my profile name is atm, it was Super Supau, tho it's kinda bounced back and forth between that and whatever shit my bro changes it too, but the link is this one: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SuperSupau

anyways, now I actually have a lot of motivation to move forward in D2, tho. A large portion of what's keeping me in LoL atm is SG, and this subforum, now that 1 of those is getting on board for D2, I may end up playing more.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 02 2012 20:06 GMT
#24
I really like this thread's initiative. If I get a key sometime soon that would be awesome ^^. I've been doing some reading and the amount of learning you need to do (like a whole new set of items) seems daunting but I've already done it once with LoL.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 02 2012 20:07 GMT
#25
Frolossus- http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198032348991

i would love to play with TLers but probably won't be very active till PL or mortred get ported
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
March 02 2012 20:47 GMT
#26
This is my Steam Name:

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051242247/

Add me up.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 07:12:12
March 02 2012 20:57 GMT
#27
Edit: Never mind I actually just got in to the Beta today, steam name is the same as my TL username: Nos-

Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024334156
Bronze player stuck in platinum
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 02 2012 21:07 GMT
#28
I gotta say that I honestly didn't expect that outcome. Also so far we basically only have Americans in that list, lol.

For those who use shared accounts and stuff, it probably makes more sense to just chill in the ingame channel and working from there when you have access to an account. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 02 2012 21:37 GMT
#29
http://steamcommunity.com/id/UniversalSnip
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
March 02 2012 21:47 GMT
#30
HEROES OF NEWERTH 4 LYFE (until dota2 gets fixed)
FADC
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
March 02 2012 22:40 GMT
#31
Stormy -- http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000197730
Stormy
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 02 2012 23:08 GMT
#32
dnastyx just made me look like a tard for trying to get everyone to add each other when it makes much more sense to...

CREATE A DAMN STEAMGROUP.

It's invite only and really unshiney: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lpdota


Add dnastyx / me and bug us if we forgot to add you to the group. Gonna add some more officers asap once some people join in.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 03 2012 03:32 GMT
#33
gtr, what is it about Riven that you are wanting in a DotA2 hero? One of the hardest things to pinpoint when people ask this is what exactly they see the champion as, because people play things differently. You play 5s a lot so I'd assume you see her as a melee carry with decent lane control that offsets her fairly long buildup to carry status, but a description like that is probably a great thing to add when asking "what hero is like this champ." Many times there really is just not a close match(and there may not be any exact matches, I'd have to think about it) so you need to pick the part that really draws you to a champion and get something similar there instead.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/iamred/
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 03 2012 04:04 GMT
#34
i think the hardest thing to replicate about riven is her lack of resource management. I can't think of any champs in DotA that don't have mana (been awhile tho), or even really anything that's even 'spammable' from LoL's persepective.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 03 2012 04:09 GMT
#35
On March 03 2012 13:04 barbsq wrote:
i think the hardest thing to replicate about riven is her lack of resource management. I can't think of any champs in DotA that don't have mana (been awhile tho), or even really anything that's even 'spammable' from LoL's persepective.


There are no manaless heroes in DotA, there's a few that actually are fairly spammy(relative to DotA's typical spell usage) but none that are melee, or at least not melee carries.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 03 2012 04:21 GMT
#36
I use a friend's steam account (xcetron) to play dota. I have like 20+ games already. Only "know" how to play windrunner :p. If anyone wanna add me.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 03 2012 05:21 GMT
#37
On March 03 2012 12:32 red_ wrote:
gtr, what is it about Riven that you are wanting in a DotA2 hero? One of the hardest things to pinpoint when people ask this is what exactly they see the champion as, because people play things differently. You play 5s a lot so I'd assume you see her as a melee carry with decent lane control that offsets her fairly long buildup to carry status, but a description like that is probably a great thing to add when asking "what hero is like this champ." Many times there really is just not a close match(and there may not be any exact matches, I'd have to think about it) so you need to pick the part that really draws you to a champion and get something similar there instead.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/iamred/


i like her low cool-downs which lead to split-second decision making (i.e. saving your E to block a pantheon spear) and her mobility, primarily. also, yeah, the melee-carry who crushes lategame after a little bit of investment is pretty cool. from dota, the melee champs i loved were bloodseeker (more like ww i suppose), riki, and juggernaut.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
March 03 2012 05:22 GMT
#38
The game isn't optimized for lower end pc's yet so it doesn't run too well on them. There's also noticeable turn speeds in dota2, at least compared to LoL so it feels a bit less smooth because of them.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 05:28:43
March 03 2012 05:28 GMT
#39
On March 03 2012 14:21 gtrsrs wrote:
i like her low cool-downs which lead to split-second decision making (i.e. saving your E to block a pantheon spear) and her mobility, primarily. also, yeah, the melee-carry who crushes lategame after a little bit of investment is pretty cool. from dota, the melee champs i loved were bloodseeker (more like ww i suppose), riki, and juggernaut.

Nerubian Weaver and Morphling, while not melee, are agility carries that very much emphasize these qualities in their play. Weaver also has cooldowns that are quite low.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 05:29:41
March 03 2012 05:28 GMT
#40
On March 03 2012 14:22 rob.au wrote:
The game isn't optimized for lower end pc's yet so it doesn't run too well on them. There's also noticeable turn speeds in dota2, at least compared to LoL so it feels a bit less smooth because of them.


yeah, i remember heroes like jakiro and lich had extreme turning speeds which is something i disliked, but i don't remember most of the heroes that i frequently played (storm, seeker, spirit breaker) having huge turning times so i chalked up the sluggishness to my computer. good to hear that it just hasn't been optimized, hopefully it will run a bit better when it's fully released!


On March 03 2012 14:28 TheYango wrote:
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On March 03 2012 14:21 gtrsrs wrote:
i like her low cool-downs which lead to split-second decision making (i.e. saving your E to block a pantheon spear) and her mobility, primarily. also, yeah, the melee-carry who crushes lategame after a little bit of investment is pretty cool. from dota, the melee champs i loved were bloodseeker (more like ww i suppose), riki, and juggernaut.

Nerubian Weaver and Morphling, while not melee, are agility carries that very much emphasize these qualities in their play. Weaver also has cooldowns that are quite low.



yes! i remember loving weaver. he was great. morphling required too much micro, lol. 2 units is 1 unit too many. same reason i was awful at chen and meepo. i'll definitely give weaver another swing.
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