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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 13:03:20
February 11 2012 13:02 GMT
#2981
Warwick is really really strong when he's farmed but he has trouble getting there. He's in a sort of a weird place.

And about 80% of champs are "OP Shit" depending on current FOTM.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 11 2012 13:04 GMT
#2982
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
February 11 2012 13:07 GMT
#2983
hotshot is the greatest trist in the world

finishes a game where his (my) team had 15~ kills 1-6-0

rip my elo
2035
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 11 2012 13:08 GMT
#2984
On February 11 2012 22:04 -Zoda- wrote:
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.



Okay ganks, all the other points is basically shyvana but 10x worse.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 11 2012 13:08 GMT
#2985
On February 11 2012 22:07 bosiddon wrote:
hotshot is the greatest trist in the world

finishes a game where his (my) team had 15~ kills 1-6-0

rip my elo


he's great on everything today, last games i've seen he played were 3/11 malphite and 0/10 gangplank. lol
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 11 2012 13:10 GMT
#2986
On February 11 2012 22:08 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:04 -Zoda- wrote:
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.



Okay ganks, all the other points is basically shyvana but 10x worse.

Shyvana doesn't have innate sustain...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 11 2012 13:13 GMT
#2987
On February 11 2012 19:37 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 19:30 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I think shen will still be really weak. I like his ult though.


shen isnt really 'weak' right now. Well at least ive seen him once recently in a tournament game going full tank and win a game. He is one of the best top laners until bigger farm comes into play where other champions scale way better. The problem with that is that shen neither pushes fast nor scales well enough to have consistency in the later stages right now, so he is very situational. A bit of scaling on shen will resolve this issue and I don't even think it has to be alot. I just really like shen because he isn't your everyday bruiser who charges into carries. He can do that to a certain extend but in the other hand he really excells at protecting your own carries. The only tanks that share a similar role would be lee sin and alistar from the top of my head.


Friggin' Maokaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai. But tree can do everything. Also everything he pleases. Sorry Mundo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 11 2012 14:12 GMT
#2988
On February 11 2012 22:10 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:08 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:04 -Zoda- wrote:
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.



Okay ganks, all the other points is basically shyvana but 10x worse.

Shyvana doesn't have innate sustain...

Or CC, or a global ult. Seems like a really random comparison to me.
3.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 14:33:50
February 11 2012 14:33 GMT
#2989
I don't understand why people don't play trist more ? She is like the most annoying carry in the game. Her damage are higher than most other carry, her range is great late, her cd goes back when she kill someone, etc.
I hate her.

Is there a reason for people to prefer other carry ? Aside from the fact that she is a midget.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
February 11 2012 14:34 GMT
#2990
short range early level
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
February 11 2012 14:37 GMT
#2991
On February 11 2012 23:33 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't understand why people don't play trist more ? She is like the most annoying carry in the game. Her damage are higher than most other carry, her range is great late, her cd goes back when she kill someone, etc.
I hate her.

Is there a reason for people to prefer other carry ? Aside from the fact that she is a midget.


Weak mid-game IMO. Since nothing scales off AD, she has good initial burst, but until she can really stack some AD, her AA damage is lackluster. Also, if you prioritize W/E > Q in lane just to have kill / trade potential, then Q doesn't kick in that much until the late game.
Derp
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
February 11 2012 14:37 GMT
#2992
On February 11 2012 23:33 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't understand why people don't play trist more ? She is like the most annoying carry in the game. Her damage are higher than most other carry, her range is great late, her cd goes back when she kill someone, etc.
I hate her.

Is there a reason for people to prefer other carry ? Aside from the fact that she is a midget.

She is very, very squishy so you have to be really careful when playing her.

She also has a point in the midgame where (assuming you build AD) her abilities don't do enough damage to kill anyone and you don't have your full item build so you can't kill very well with your auto attack either.

She's really really good at level 2, 6, and once you have your full build. But during the midgame when you're farming for all the AD carry items she has trouble in skirmishes and team fights.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2012 14:39 GMT
#2993
On February 11 2012 22:08 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:07 bosiddon wrote:
hotshot is the greatest trist in the world

finishes a game where his (my) team had 15~ kills 1-6-0

rip my elo


he's great on everything today, last games i've seen he played were 3/11 malphite and 0/10 gangplank. lol

Hotshot has something most players don't. He has "beast mode". Upon activated it either causes him to feed horrendously by trying to 1v5 an entire team. OR it causes him to completely carry his team.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 11 2012 14:41 GMT
#2994
@shen changes. people think it'll make him op'd again. But I disagree. Before Shen actually could dish out a horrendously dangerouse amount of damage. the buffs that are being implemented just make him look like an infinite taunting machine.
liftlift > tsm
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#2995
Waitwaitwaitwait, Shen counters Riven?

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#2996
On February 11 2012 23:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:08 DoXa wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:07 bosiddon wrote:
hotshot is the greatest trist in the world

finishes a game where his (my) team had 15~ kills 1-6-0

rip my elo


he's great on everything today, last games i've seen he played were 3/11 malphite and 0/10 gangplank. lol

Hotshot has something most players don't. He has "beast mode". Upon activated it either causes him to feed horrendously by trying to 1v5 an entire team. OR it causes him to completely carry his team.

All he has is the brains to branch out CLG as much as possible as long as they have any relevance in the scene. As far as his performances go, I haven't seen him carry his team since IEM cologne. (But then again, I stopped watching him alltogether shortly thereafter because his attitude is unbearable.).

Also: his ''beast mode'' sounds and looks a lot like mindless ramboing that sometimes turns out to be OK because the other team was even worse.
currently rooting for myself.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 16:01:20
February 11 2012 15:00 GMT
#2997
Saturday, February 11, 2012


Curse Invitational
http://www.lolpro.com/tournaments/176-curse-presents-the-lol-pro-invitational-tournament/schedule

Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/team/curse

Round 1

Choppa in Da Car vs CLG 20:00 GMT (+00:00)
v8 vs Epik Gamer 22:00 GMT (+00:00)
Dignitas vs RFLX 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
goose vs TSM 02:00 GMT (+00:00)


Legendary Gaming Tournament
http://www.legendary-gaming.org/tournaments.php?tournament=1

Stream: http://www.own3d.tv/live/10955/EG_Nhat_Nguyen

Semi-Finals

TSM vs M5 19:00 GMT (+00:00)

AL vs SK 19:00 GMT (+00:00)

(I think these times are right)

Anything else going on today?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 11 2012 15:06 GMT
#2998
Legendary Gaming tournament is CET.

Go go Alliance.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 11 2012 15:26 GMT
#2999
On February 11 2012 23:12 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 22:10 -Zoda- wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:08 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:04 -Zoda- wrote:
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.



Okay ganks, all the other points is basically shyvana but 10x worse.

Shyvana doesn't have innate sustain...

Or CC, or a global ult. Seems like a really random comparison to me.


Sustain doesn't matter in the jungle when you take 3x as long to clear camps. It just means you're spending less on pots. CC and global ult doesn't make for a good jungler necessarily. Jungle shen falls too far behind on gold and levels and you can global from top lane where you normally don't move while jungler is usually around the area anyway.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
February 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#3000
On February 12 2012 00:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Saturday, February 11, 2012


Curse Invitational
http://www.lolpro.com/tournaments/176-curse-presents-the-lol-pro-invitational-tournament/schedule

Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/team/curse

Round 1

Choppa in Da Car vs CLG 20:00 GMT (+00:00)
v8 vs Epik Gamer 22:00 GMT (+00:00)
Dignitas vs RFLX 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
goose vs TSM 02:00 GMT (+00:00)


Legendary Gaming Tournament
http://www.legendary-gaming.org/tournaments.php?tournament=1

Stream: http://www.own3d.tv/live/10955/EG_Nhat_Nguyen

Semi-Finals

TSM vs M5 22:00 GMT (+00:00) (I think the games start around then, they don't give the timezone on the site :/ )

AL vs SK 22:00 GMT (+00:00)


Anything else going on today?

Nice ! Thank you for this ! I always struggle to know when there is tournament...
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