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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 11 2012 15:50 GMT
#3001
HotshotGG is good in the lane phase, but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes and he is not really shining in team fight.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 11 2012 16:02 GMT
#3002
On February 12 2012 00:06 dooraven wrote:
Legendary Gaming tournament is CET.



Alright, updated. Yesterday they started about 3 hours late then.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
February 11 2012 16:29 GMT
#3003
On February 12 2012 00:50 WhiteDog wrote:
but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes


A lot of pros have really weird/iffy builds. Like when I look at some of the builds EU players like Froggen, xPeke, Wickd and Oce do I just have to facepalm, because in my opinion they completly suck, but for some reason it seems to work for them.
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
February 11 2012 16:43 GMT
#3004
On February 12 2012 01:29 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 00:50 WhiteDog wrote:
but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes


A lot of pros have really weird/iffy builds. Like when I look at some of the builds EU players like Froggen, xPeke, Wickd and Oce do I just have to facepalm, because in my opinion they completly suck, but for some reason it seems to work for them.


I dunno man who are we to judge what the pros at this game build, after all they might know something we dont.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 11 2012 16:44 GMT
#3005
On February 12 2012 00:26 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 23:12 Inschato wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:10 -Zoda- wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:08 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 11 2012 22:04 -Zoda- wrote:
I was considering to buy Shen for quite some time, if he's getting buffed I'm not gonna hesitate anymore.
Why isn't he played jungle more often btw ? I played it a few times and I find him quite good. He doesn't clear extremely fast (tho this might change with his buffs) but he has a very good sustain and inifinite mana which allow him to counterjungle very easily. And his ganking is pretty fine imo and the global ult is real terror especially midgames where he stills deals damage compared to others.



Okay ganks, all the other points is basically shyvana but 10x worse.

Shyvana doesn't have innate sustain...

Or CC, or a global ult. Seems like a really random comparison to me.


Sustain doesn't matter in the jungle when you take 3x as long to clear camps. It just means you're spending less on pots. CC and global ult doesn't make for a good jungler necessarily. Jungle shen falls too far behind on gold and levels and you can global from top lane where you normally don't move while jungler is usually around the area anyway.

The new changes to his passive should really reduce his clear time, imo, and the shield buff might make it actually worth getting a point in earlier.

Comparing him to Shy isn't right. Shy is a clearing beast with no utility and poor ganks. Shen has good ganks (will be even better too) and will clear at a similar speed to other non-AoE champs. A better comparison would be GP, innate sustain, single target, nice harass nuke, global ult. Except GP scales scary strong into late game right now, hopefully Shen will do better with his buffs.
It's your boy Guzma!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 11 2012 16:57 GMT
#3006
Thanks for posting about the Curse invitational tourney!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#3007
On February 12 2012 01:29 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 00:50 WhiteDog wrote:
but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes


A lot of pros have really weird/iffy builds. Like when I look at some of the builds EU players like Froggen, xPeke, Wickd and Oce do I just have to facepalm, because in my opinion they completly suck, but for some reason it seems to work for them.


Maybe you just need to be more open minded. If the best players are doing these builds why do they completely suck? It's not like they are definitely good but these players are better than you for a reason.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#3008
Support changes that honestly don't make much sense to me at all. Well no, they make sense and are needed but they didn't quite get why Sona was so good and she will still be good at what she does. For those who don't know, it's her damage early game not the aura's. It's the passive proc with Q that let's a sona turn a bad trade into a kill for those first few levels hopefully this'll get Taric to be played more at least as the world's seem to have forgotten he even exists.

Soraka changes perfectly fine at least. Good stuff overall so I am pleased with this preview.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 11 2012 17:12 GMT
#3009
On February 12 2012 01:29 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 00:50 WhiteDog wrote:
but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes


A lot of pros have really weird/iffy builds. Like when I look at some of the builds EU players like Froggen, xPeke, Wickd and Oce do I just have to facepalm, because in my opinion they completly suck, but for some reason it seems to work for them.

don't forget dat chu8 maokai
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
February 11 2012 17:15 GMT
#3010
New champ looks so badass, too bad I play AP =/
In the Emperor we trust
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 11 2012 17:15 GMT
#3011
dont want you all to be jealous but i got mr.hotshotnidaleegg on my f list
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:27:01
February 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#3012
So what glyphs are you running on your APs nowadays? I've come to realize that if I reach late game, 28 AP probably won't make a difference and since I started learning a few very aggressive APs (Ahri, Cass, Ziggs), I played with the idea of just using flat MR like I do on Kennen, just because it makes their already superb trading even better. I dislike CDR Glyphs because of the minimum amount of impact I personally notice and because I prefer runing for the laning phase, and AP/lvl just seems so... worthless.


On February 12 2012 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dont want you all to be jealous but i got mr.hotshotnidaleegg on my f list


Does HE respond to dem normal invitez?
currently rooting for myself.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#3013
On February 12 2012 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dont want you all to be jealous but i got mr.hotshotnidaleegg on my f list

There's an app topic for that.
The legend of Darien lives on
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2012 17:32 GMT
#3014
On February 12 2012 00:50 WhiteDog wrote:
HotshotGG is good in the lane phase, but in my opinion he suck at building his heroes and he is not really shining in team fight.

Hotshot in my opinion is the epitome of a pubstar. His mechanics, game understanding, and overall fundamentals are very good. The problem is that he does not play with enough of a mind toward his role and his position in the overall scheme of CLG's team compositions. He plays very self-centered/self-reliant, which is GREAT for solo queue, but it's absolutely a problem in an arranged setting. He takes a lot of farm without regard for who scales harder/who needs the farm more at the moment, and in team-fights often plays disregarding what he should be doing for his teammates (e.g. using CC defensively and protecting his carry).

This would be less of a problem if he actually played carry top laners like Riven or Irelia more often, but he often gets played on champions like Galio or Cho'gath, who frequently have to play a 3rd position protective/supportive role rather than a carry role.
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Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
February 11 2012 17:33 GMT
#3015
OMFG I found my Pax Jax Skin code that I lost after Pax East last year...I didn't play LoL then so I didn't think I'd ever use it. Turns out Jax became my favorite champion, AND NOW I HAVE HIS MOST EPIC SKIN XDDD YAY!!!!
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 11 2012 17:33 GMT
#3016
On February 12 2012 02:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
dont want you all to be jealous but i got mr.hotshotnidaleegg on my f list

There's an app topic for that.


We could ask R1CH to create buttons for the LoL subforum (QQ/Brag/Other) which we can select instead of the "Post"-button. It will then will automatically get moved to the correct topic.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:35:03
February 11 2012 17:34 GMT
#3017
Yeah, and while you at it could you get Neo to polish my shoes on Saturdays?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 11 2012 17:36 GMT
#3018
On February 12 2012 02:34 Slayer91 wrote:
Yeah, and while you at it could you get Neo to polish my shoes on Saturdays?


If you manage to get him over here in time to bring me breakfast on Sundays it's np.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 11 2012 17:55 GMT
#3019
i want one of the flying monkeys if you can spare one
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 11 2012 17:58 GMT
#3020
On February 12 2012 02:55 clickrush wrote:
i want one of the flying monkeys if you can spare one


Teutonica joined the room.
rTU (6:55): LOL TEUT
antemattar (6:55): oh god it's teutonica
rTU (6:55): NO ONE ELSE DARES TO POST IN GD ANYMORE
Zulbukh (6:55): wat
rTU (6:55): WE WIN
clickrush (6:55): sec
clickrush (6:55): have to check gd
clickrush (6:55): and write random stuff



You just had to break the awkward silence that followed, did you? =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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