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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:06:33
January 11 2012 23:24 GMT
#3421
Lol TSM duo q's now they're all on the same team expect for one guy to "replace" regi. Xpecial and Chaox on their smurfs. Then they get owned within the first 3 mins top.

Hahah wow they struggled so hard. Part of the reason was they weren't taking it seriously but they wouldn't have won that if TOO and TRM stole Baron.

Chaox and Xpecial vs TRM and TOO now. Chaox vs TRM top too.
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
January 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#3422
fiddle is good against ppl who don't know how to avoid ganks. 1500s don't know how. if he can't get a couple good ganks in, he's trash because he has no way of farming back to power or even catching back up in levels. he's not secret op or something, he just stomps ppl who don't ward correctly.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#3423
Even when Fiddle gets ahead it's easy to stomp him out of existence and win the game. He has no way to escape if you get to him before his ult goes off.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:24:09
January 12 2012 00:05 GMT
#3424
On January 12 2012 08:18 phyvo wrote:
He could also just mean boots of mobility.

I mean I was in a game with a shyv who just went BoM early game and ganked the crap out of everyone mercilessly, endgame sold them for mercs and was so farmed off of us she was impossible to kill.


There are some key differences between the two champions though. Shyvana can't buy boots which increase her damage done by 10-17%, and her ult isn't as critical for her ganks.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:15:53
January 12 2012 00:15 GMT
#3425
Riven vs Panth, who wins (given equal skill)?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 12 2012 00:30 GMT
#3426
On January 12 2012 09:15 Ryalnos wrote:
Riven vs Panth, who wins (given equal skill)?


jungler determined, pretty even MU

rather have riven overall on my team though since shes broken
Brees on in
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
January 12 2012 00:31 GMT
#3427
HUGE Lag on US servers, anyone else feeling the pain?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 00:38 GMT
#3428
On January 12 2012 09:31 Ryalnos wrote:
HUGE Lag on US servers, anyone else feeling the pain?

No lag, just bad players blaming it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:45:57
January 12 2012 00:45 GMT
#3429
On rainman's stream, everyone on their team has 300+ms ping (I saw from the loading screen) and they freeze every once in a while.
I thought they just had bad connection.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:50:31
January 12 2012 00:47 GMT
#3430
Well apparently I wasn't clear in that everyone on both teams in the last game I played was complaining about how they couldn't move etc. and it resulted in a 5v2 with three disconnects on their team that Riot failed to loss-forgive for.

Thanks for being a reasonable poster though, Hidden_MotiveS.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#3431
On January 12 2012 09:47 Ryalnos wrote:
Well apparently I wasn't clear in that everyone on both teams in the last game I played was complaining about how they couldn't move etc. and it resulted in a 5v2 with three disconnects on their team that Riot failed to loss-forgive for.

Thanks for being a reasonable poster though, Hidden_MotiveS.


It's not just you or TSM. There's also a lot of lag on boes' stream as well.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 12 2012 01:08 GMT
#3432
Yup, I was lagging so bad I lost my lane to a Viktor. >.<
I am the Town Medic.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 12 2012 01:19 GMT
#3433
SOTL started about 10mins ago
http://www.own3d.tv/live/102280/State_of_the_League
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 12 2012 01:25 GMT
#3434
On January 12 2012 09:38 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 09:31 Ryalnos wrote:
HUGE Lag on US servers, anyone else feeling the pain?

No lag, just bad players blaming it.

no there was lag
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 12 2012 01:29 GMT
#3435
yep lots of lag on NA
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 12 2012 01:37 GMT
#3436
Lots of retard on EU.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 12 2012 01:43 GMT
#3437
even more retard on NA
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#3438
On January 12 2012 10:08 Alzadar wrote:
Yup, I was lagging so bad I lost my lane to a Viktor. >.<


Seriously tho, I can see why Viktor isn't the best late game or perhaps against ganks, but why exactly would he be bad in lane? There hasn't been a single match-up I felt disadvantaged at with Viktor so far, the closest i've come to that have been Ahri post 6 and Gragas post 6. I haven't played against a Kassa mid yet (I think it's the only AP i've not yet played) but against all the other ones Viktor has at least a good shot. Q is a viable harass and the shield blocking minion fire helps out, and E is just insane if you get the hang of aiming it properly.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#3439
On January 12 2012 10:55 Promises wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 10:08 Alzadar wrote:
Yup, I was lagging so bad I lost my lane to a Viktor. >.<


Seriously tho, I can see why Viktor isn't the best late game or perhaps against ganks, but why exactly would he be bad in lane? There hasn't been a single match-up I felt disadvantaged at with Viktor so far, the closest i've come to that have been Ahri post 6 and Gragas post 6. I haven't played against a Kassa mid yet (I think it's the only AP i've not yet played) but against all the other ones Viktor has at least a good shot. Q is a viable harass and the shield blocking minion fire helps out, and E is just insane if you get the hang of aiming it properly.


Ryze and Xerath very good vs. Viktor.
TranslatorBaa!
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 12 2012 02:05 GMT
#3440
Ryze I certainly agree on, Xerath I'm not sure why he would hold an especially large edge over Viktor (ie more then on other AP's). Still, why that would mean Viktor would be a bad midlaner I'm not sure about ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
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