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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 02 2011 21:09 GMT
#1421
And he gets to nuke you from a billion range. Better put them both on the same team.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#1422
[image loading]

SHIT



COMBOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 02 2011 21:12 GMT
#1423
Seems like EU west is going to bite the dust fairly soon again
Cackle™
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:13:58
December 02 2011 21:12 GMT
#1424
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2011 05:25 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 04:51 Two_DoWn wrote:
I dont get what your argument even is.

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On December 03 2011 03:30 gtrsrs wrote:
You're just so disillusioned and frankly stupid
is pretty much my argument
this is my plea for you to stop posting (permanently?) for at least a while


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You have yet to actually give a reason as for why this doesnt harm other streamers, or why this is in any way equitable.


to "feature" is to give prominence to. you can't give prominence to everyone. then it wouldn't be a "feature"
in terms of who they picked, how is that not fair? shushei is a manner player on (the best?) a top team in the world that has won many tournaments. again i point to my liquor store analogy. why would we put "Bitch" wine (a real brand) in our center display? that's insulting to our company's image. why would riot in their right minds want to display the game as a bunch of 16-year-old spoiled fucktard ragers when they could pick someone with a distinguished record and attitude?


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Streaming is a job.

streamins is PLAYING A FUCKING GAME. IT'S NOT A JOB.

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Its how HS makes his living. Its how TSM is able to afford their house.

and how they will continue to do so, what's the problem?

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Hell, its how most teams, which to this point are unsponsored, are able to attend events.

ok? what's your point? severity gaming is un-corporate-sponsored and this weekend we're all traveling to a LAN event that is not in any of our own homestates. i'm gonna burn a couple hundred bucks on gas, not to mention equipment, food, team t-shirts (^_^), etc. we might not even win the whole thing and i'll be out a couple hundred bucks.

what's that? i have a 40-hour a week job that allows me to pay to do these things? As do ~92% of american adults? you mean streamers could potentially do other things besides play the game to make money? GASP


you just seem to have this mindset that there are only X viewers possibly available in the world, and any of them switching streams is a tragedy and traitorism to hotshotQQ. i've got some interesting facts for you bro: there are new players playing LoL every day and new people tuning into streams every day. there are people who watch a stream one time and never go back (i've watched hotshot's stream once, i've watched dyrus's stream once. on those two days their viewer count was +1. i've never watched either since. OH NO THEY'RE LOSING MONEY AND VIEWERS FUCKING RIOOOOOOOOOT). when you see hotshot has 7000 viewers, it's not that he has 7000 people that do nothing but watch him all day. you don't seem to understand that people can come and go from streams, which is not a particularly hard concept to grasp.

riot featuring shushei is a way to draw more people into watching streams; especially watching streams of players they want new players to emulate. there's a summoner's code that hotshot pretty much breaks every single rule of on a constant basis. why would riot want to say "hey kids you need to play by the rules... here's a video of one of our best players not playing by the rules and not being punished!"


also you should probably get a job because you have a severely flawed view of "losing money." "losing money" is when your expenses exceed your profits, or your outflow exceeds your income, or you pay a higher value for something than what it is worth. you "lose money" when you buy a new car and drive it off the lot because it instantly depreciates in value and you can never sell it for what you bought it for. you "lose money" when you start a business that costs $1million to start, and then you only make $500,000 in profits in your first year and have to shut down. you "lose money" when you drop your wallet down the sewer and an alligator eats it.

you DON'T "lose money" when you are making $100/day at your lemonade stand and then your neighbor opens up a lemonade stand and you start making $95/day. you are not LOSING $5 a day, you are MAKING $95/day. this is a pretty basic concept. now apply it to hotshot. he pays probably $150/month for internet, and (assuming he didn't get it from sponsors) might have paid $3000 dollars total for his rig. he makes ~$2000 dollars a day or whatever from streaming. if that number gets cut in half, he's not LOSING $1000/day. he's still making $1000/day which is way more than anyone should ever make for being a self-entitled whiny bitch playing a video game. he might be making less but it's still a lot

guess what else? when i leave my house i usually turn on a stream of a viewer i like (smash, kyuubicake, loci, etc). that way i'm "supporting" them without really watching. you know what else? i can open 2 tabs in firefox and "watch" 2 streamers at the same time.

it feels like 90% of the time you just post shit to post. everyone else here thinks about their posts before they hit that big post button. you should try it sometime


PS and what's more, why do you even give any fucks about how many viewers hotshotgg has? how does it effect you in any way? what have you ever done to support any streamer? how much money have you donated to the streamers that you like? isn't that essentially what you're bitching about? that money is being "stolen" from them by riot? so put YOUR money where your mouth is and either (a) stop playing LoL (which supports riot, THE BAD GUYS HERE), or (b) donate to the streamers you like. problem solved and you can feel good about yourself. you constantly say that riot should hire you instead of matt marcou, and while it's true that he's pretty inept, i'm pretty sure riot would cease to exist within 6 months of hiring you

QFT, I was reading the last few pages of "Featured streamer" whining non-sense, and I was thinking pretty much exactly what you posted.

On December 03 2011 05:33 gtrsrs wrote:
that being said,

Severity Gaming (not directly associated with TL.net but composed of several TL posters) is playing a LAN at Iowa State University this weekend. there are some decent teams coming out, no TSM or CLG or anything, but there will definitely be some competition. any TLers that attend Iowa State or live in the area or live somewhat close and just have nothing to do for the weekend should come out and check out the LAN. Dyrus and frozt are shoutcasting the semi-finals and finals, there's a couple grand in prizing, and it should be a blast.

i will be streaming the event if i can (i honestly have never been to a lan though, i don't even know if i'll be able to access the internet while i'm plugged into the lan box or whatever, i'm an internet noob), so if you want to watch you can from home

but if you come to the event, look for us! we'll be in black t-shirts with "Severity Gaming" in white on the front and our screen names in gold on the back (TL posters on the team going to iowa: Ruken, TreeBeard, Snowster_SC (ObamasLeftHand) and myself (guitarasaurus)).

the event starts at 6pm on saturday evening and goes straight through til there's a winner! you can catch my stream of our matches at www.livestream.com/gtrsrs

thanks

I'll try to watch if you get to stream it!

GLHF!
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 02 2011 21:13 GMT
#1425
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.
The legend of Darien lives on
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
December 02 2011 21:15 GMT
#1426
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.


Udyr, irelia? Just play passive until you get wriggles.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
December 02 2011 21:15 GMT
#1427
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.


Trynd
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
December 02 2011 21:19 GMT
#1428
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.


Olaf
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 02 2011 21:22 GMT
#1429
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.


Swain shits on melee. I haven't run Swain vs. Riven but I can't imagine him losing unless you mess up as Swain.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 21:22 GMT
#1430
On December 03 2011 06:03 Brees wrote:
a job is anything you do routinely that pays you in some monetary form. how is streaming not a job?

Good to know your definition of a job includes scamming and small thefts.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 02 2011 21:23 GMT
#1431
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.


Xerith
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
December 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#1432
On December 03 2011 06:07 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:06 Sabin010 wrote:
So Irelia with the new masteries gets 85% cc reduction via passive, mercs, and the 21 defense mastery. Better nerf Irelia.

Xerath gets 80% magic pen. I think that's way more op.

Well, at least you can stun him so he can't penetrate you(with spells, you perv...)
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#1433
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.

There's not much. You need someone who can trade at early levels and come out ahead. Udyr is good because of his sustain and good damage. Wukong does ok if you're cautious, but isn't the best choice. Lanewick or Nasus work with sustain and tankyness, but probably aren't the best choices.

The thing about Riven is that her damage is so good all game, especially with farm. You need someone who can stay alive in lane and out-scale her or deny her farm.

However, as a Riven player, I hope no one ever really learns how to counter her
It's your boy Guzma!
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#1434
On December 03 2011 04:36 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 04:16 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 03 2011 04:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 03 2011 03:30 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Right now HSGG is at 7k, and sushei is at 18k. TRY to tell me that this policy isnt negatively affecting other streamers.


you are the reason that people hate conservatives

What, my belief that people should be able to enjoy the consumer base they have built without having it stolen from them?


Yes pretty much
Also the fact that you just said 'stolen' in the context of a digital and intangible quantity
And the fact that you think that someone (who is playing a game, mind you) is being negatively impacted by only making like $1000/hr instead of $1075/hr or whatever 1000 viewers would make

You're just do disillusioned and frankly stupid

Wait, so losing money isnt being negatively affected. Good to know.

I just dislike this policy because it doesnt respect people who built an audience in a way that riot doesnt "approve" of. Solomid and HSGG built lol streaming, yet they will not, in all likelyhood, be rewarded because they tend to rage and swear. In fact, riot is actually PUNISHING them.

Now, is it possible that some people go watch sushei, decide his stream is boring and find someone else to watch? Sure. But its just as likely that people will only stick to riot sponsored streams because of the fact that they are riot sponsored, thereby destroying the audiences that other streamers built.


2downie I love you and all but please never try to get a job in marketing.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 02 2011 21:26 GMT
#1435
On December 03 2011 06:22 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:03 Brees wrote:
a job is anything you do routinely that pays you in some monetary form. how is streaming not a job?

Good to know your definition of a job includes scamming and small thefts.


Saying that streaming isn't a job is like saying that being a commentator or being a taste tester isn't a job. Just because it's easy and fun doesn't mean it's not a job.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
December 02 2011 21:26 GMT
#1436
On December 03 2011 06:24 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Please. How to counterpick Riven.

Thank you very much.

There's not much. You need someone who can trade at early levels and come out ahead. Udyr is good because of his sustain and good damage. Wukong does ok if you're cautious, but isn't the best choice. Lanewick or Nasus work with sustain and tankyness, but probably aren't the best choices.

The thing about Riven is that her damage is so good all game, especially with farm. You need someone who can stay alive in lane and out-scale her or deny her farm.

However, as a Riven player, I hope no one ever really learns how to counter her

Well, I was thinking about that too, but is there really a champion that out-scales her? I couldn't really find one, but my knowledge is quite limited(and lol wiki is locked at work! ^^ )
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
December 02 2011 21:27 GMT
#1437
Got disconnected from the a game lobby at the very last moment (just after the countdown reaches 0), and when I log back in I have to wait 5 minutes for queue-dodging. EU West is trying very hard to make me angry, I think.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 02 2011 21:30 GMT
#1438
panth crushes riven even if she goes cloth 5pot and defense masteries

i end up having to use 9 util or mana regen runes, kus u just have to chuck so many spears to get thru those stupid pots
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 02 2011 21:31 GMT
#1439
On December 03 2011 06:22 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:03 Brees wrote:
a job is anything you do routinely that pays you in some monetary form. how is streaming not a job?

Good to know your definition of a job includes scamming and small thefts.


except its not my definition, its the official definition. there's no opinion here.

Brees on in
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 02 2011 21:32 GMT
#1440
On December 03 2011 06:06 Sabin010 wrote:
So Irelia with the new masteries gets 85% cc reduction via passive, mercs, and the 21 defense mastery. Better nerf Irelia.

On December 03 2011 06:07 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:06 Sabin010 wrote:
So Irelia with the new masteries gets 85% cc reduction via passive, mercs, and the 21 defense mastery. Better nerf Irelia.

Xerath gets 80% magic pen. I think that's way more op.

Did I miss the joke? Can't find one... Both of these are wrong.
CC Reduction and %MPen scale multiplicatively, not additively.

Unless Riot managed to bug that too.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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