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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 02 2011 18:18 GMT
#1341
does it take insanely long to load custom games if you're host for any1 else?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
December 02 2011 18:19 GMT
#1342
Never change, LoCicero. Your stream is one of the only ones I don't feel embarrassed to be watching without headphones on.

Seriously though, why is the stereotypical LoL pro behavior so accepted? Why isn't it in SC2? Obviously there are some bm SC2 streamers that get a lot of viewers but I'd say they are the minority especially compared to LoL. In SC2 people say someone is a "ragequitter" or "bm" if they don't gg before a leaving a game...
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#1343
On December 03 2011 03:19 Hyren wrote:
Never change, LoCicero. Your stream is one of the only ones I don't feel embarrassed to be watching without headphones on.

Seriously though, why is the stereotypical LoL pro behavior so accepted? Why isn't it in SC2? Obviously there are some bm SC2 streamers that get a lot of viewers but I'd say they are the minority especially compared to LoL. In SC2 people say someone is a "ragequitter" or "bm" if they don't gg before a leaving a game...


i have a suspicion that TL is the culprit
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
December 02 2011 18:27 GMT
#1344
On December 03 2011 03:16 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 18:51 Treadmill wrote:
On December 02 2011 18:42 r.Evo wrote:
On December 02 2011 17:54 Seuss wrote:
On December 02 2011 16:07 LoCicero wrote:
I turned on rain man's stream and heard "fuck," "dude," and "bro" about 30 times in two minutes and turned it off. How does he have 5k viewers? How do people watch that? Honestly I feel like a big reason I stopped playing recently is because I'm just fed up with the top elo scene. So many of the well known players are shitty fucking examples of how to compose yourself when you play this game it makes me disgusted. I really thought when I started streaming that I could get a significant number of viewers simply by not being a fucking douche, but I'm so disillusioned right now that I can't even bring myself to stream or play. What an embarrassment.


You should find those other diamonds in the rough, the players who are good but not ragers/egotists, and make a serious team based around that.



This times 100.

To be completely honest, your stream is the single and only one that's setting an example in terms of skill, behaviour and personality in this game.


Please go ahead and try to find some NA people who feel similar about your stream and build a team around that. I'm pretty damn sure there are those people in the 1700/1800 elo range and above who are like that. (And I'm a total believer that if you get it going they don't need to be much higher since you'll be able to push them over the edge.)


fighting~!!

I think there are a couple other streamers that are pretty mannered. Chaox, Salce, Doublelift, a couple others. Yeah the community isn't great but there are a decent number of more mannered players out there.

@LoCi - this may be out of line but I'd enjoy your stream more if you didn't persistently use 'gay' as a perjorative. Nobody's perfect.


That is totally fair. Unfortunately it's become part of my vernacular (which isn't something I'm happy about) so it's hard to stop saying it. It's not out of line at all, thank you for the feedback.

This is exactly it. Let's start a movement for Loci, next spotlighted streamer. He just has to start streaming again
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
December 02 2011 18:28 GMT
#1345
I tuned in into some of the top streams from solomod this week. How do these guys get so many viewers on a constant basis?
To me they behave and speak borderline retarded (saintvicious and reginald come to my mind) and are definately not the gamers id want to watch on a stream.

I guess we are just spoiled by the quality of SC2 streams...
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 02 2011 18:29 GMT
#1346
Sushei is so awesome that when fnatic played TLeu, and one of TL's players was taking so long - then joined and mistakenly press Quit game instead. The entire fnatic team raged - only Sushei didn't - all he did was bang his head on his keyboard. (the wait was like 30 mins I think lol). Slayer91 aka Teutonica OP
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 18:32:41
December 02 2011 18:30 GMT
#1347
jesus christ
what is this 8 straight pages about bitching about something that affects absolutely none of you?
who gives a fuck if riot featured sushei as a streamer
i have only heard good things about him, EVER

sometimes the only feeling i get when i read this forum is that you're all a bunch of b-students who are jealous of the kids that get A's. EVERYONE SHOULD GET A'S. HOTSHOTGG SHOULD GET A LIMO EVERY TIME HE STREAMS. IF YOU'RE GONNA FEATURE SHUSHEI YOU SHOULD FEATURE SMASH GIZMO. EVERYONE SHOULD WIN WCG OH MY GOD RIOT YOU SUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

yo, heads up, that's not how the real world works. walk into the liquor store i work at. first thing you're going to see is a huge display of Jameson irish whiskey. why? because it fucking sells. is it better than say macallan scotch? better than stranahan's? better than jack daniel's gentleman? maybe, maybe not. but it's extremely popular. people pick it up and head straight to the register, and it has a great margin. boom jameson just made us money. it's staying in the middle of the store. do you think we would put a whiskey in the front display that had a label that said "THIS LIQUOR STORE BLOWS ASS AND IF YOU DRINK ME YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSY," even if it was delicious as hell??? so why do you think riot would want to spotlight the LoL equivalent?


if you don't want to watch his stream, don't
if you don't want OTHER people to watch his stream, stop talking about it
if you want a rage-free alternative, watch my stream or loci's stream and stop bitching


On December 03 2011 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Right now HSGG is at 7k, and sushei is at 18k. TRY to tell me that this policy isnt negatively affecting other streamers.


you are the reason that people hate conservatives
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#1348
On December 03 2011 03:21 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:19 Hyren wrote:
Never change, LoCicero. Your stream is one of the only ones I don't feel embarrassed to be watching without headphones on.

Seriously though, why is the stereotypical LoL pro behavior so accepted? Why isn't it in SC2? Obviously there are some bm SC2 streamers that get a lot of viewers but I'd say they are the minority especially compared to LoL. In SC2 people say someone is a "ragequitter" or "bm" if they don't gg before a leaving a game...


i have a suspicion that TL is the culprit

Ya I think the SC2 phenomena is a carryover from the BW days. If you watched korean BW, you got used to the idea that a game ended with GG, and that there was no banter or insults between players (at least not after kespa changed the rule). Of course, we have seen banter pick up a bit with no anti talk rule in sc2, but the tradition of GG remained.

Of course, we still see GG at the end of games of lol, at all levels including the top. But lol is a much longer game, and requires much less actual concentration and apm, so you are free to chat opponents and teammates up practically the entire game. It also has to do with the simple fact that no matter how good you are, you rely on 4 members of your team being anything above complete idiots to win. And that gets frustrating for good players. Do you really think that Idra would be able to play SC2 in a 2v2 format, let alone 5v5?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
December 02 2011 18:36 GMT
#1349
Has anyone had the urge to, while having banning power, ban eve/twitch when people on your team say they want to pick them.

"Random Solo Q'r: teemo solo top"
*hover mouse over teemo on ban picks*
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 02 2011 18:36 GMT
#1350
Shushei's stream is enjoyable, hes very manner. I don't like watching ragers, I rage enough by myself.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 18:40 GMT
#1351
On December 03 2011 03:19 Hyren wrote:
Never change, LoCicero. Your stream is one of the only ones I don't feel embarrassed to be watching without headphones on.

Seriously though, why is the stereotypical LoL pro behavior so accepted? Why isn't it in SC2? Obviously there are some bm SC2 streamers that get a lot of viewers but I'd say they are the minority especially compared to LoL. In SC2 people say someone is a "ragequitter" or "bm" if they don't gg before a leaving a game...

Honestly the somewhat enforced manner in sc2 is far worse than "bad behaviour" in LoL. Whenever I check one of the socalled bm streams they actually behave better than 80% of the people that don't play games, if it bothers you just don't watch them. It's better than being bm because you choose to play a game and not bother typing 2 letters which half the community most likely doesn't even understand the meaning off.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 02 2011 18:45 GMT
#1352
Hotshot is up at just about his normal level of viewers at this point, maybe a few thousand fewer. I certainly wouldn't be crying for him. The 7k figure quoted earlier must have been because he had just started his stream up.
Zero fighting.
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 02 2011 18:47 GMT
#1353
On December 03 2011 03:19 Hyren wrote:
Seriously though, why is the stereotypical LoL pro behavior so accepted? Why isn't it in SC2? Obviously there are some bm SC2 streamers that get a lot of viewers but I'd say they are the minority especially compared to LoL. In SC2 people say someone is a "ragequitter" or "bm" if they don't gg before a leaving a game...


I think it has something to do with its mostly a western sport (just like CS was), and its a 5 man team where you can prove to be better than your allies (means you will have huge egos playing). When you 1v1, you can be better only than your enemy, and you wont shittalk just for the sake of it, but if you have teammates to blame, thats another matter. And also, as i said, western culture is much more forgiving about being disrespectful in tone afaik.

SC2 has these raging kids too, but the top players mostly have some BW experience, or if not, they will very soon adapt into the other pros who do.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 18:52:13
December 02 2011 18:52 GMT
#1354
On December 03 2011 03:45 Jaksiel wrote:
Hotshot is up at just about his normal level of viewers at this point, maybe a few thousand fewer. I certainly wouldn't be crying for him. The 7k figure quoted earlier must have been because he had just started his stream up.

Considering he had a couple thousand while he was afk and sleeping, I think he can spare some viewers.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 02 2011 18:58 GMT
#1355
On December 03 2011 03:52 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:45 Jaksiel wrote:
Hotshot is up at just about his normal level of viewers at this point, maybe a few thousand fewer. I certainly wouldn't be crying for him. The 7k figure quoted earlier must have been because he had just started his stream up.

Considering he had a couple thousand while he was afk and sleeping, I think he can spare some viewers.

Hotshot has like 10k viewers while drawing crap in paint or just has a notepad up saying he's afk with over 10k viewers, literally makes money sleeping.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 02 2011 19:07 GMT
#1356
On December 03 2011 03:30 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Right now HSGG is at 7k, and sushei is at 18k. TRY to tell me that this policy isnt negatively affecting other streamers.


you are the reason that people hate conservatives

What, my belief that people should be able to enjoy the consumer base they have built without having it stolen from them?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 02 2011 19:14 GMT
#1357
On December 03 2011 04:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:30 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Right now HSGG is at 7k, and sushei is at 18k. TRY to tell me that this policy isnt negatively affecting other streamers.


you are the reason that people hate conservatives

What, my belief that people should be able to enjoy the consumer base they have built without having it stolen from them?


Stolen? Ahahahaha
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
December 02 2011 19:14 GMT
#1358
However, in this case buying more of one thing means buying less of another.
twitch.tv/cratonz
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 02 2011 19:16 GMT
#1359
On December 03 2011 04:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:30 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 03 2011 01:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
Right now HSGG is at 7k, and sushei is at 18k. TRY to tell me that this policy isnt negatively affecting other streamers.


you are the reason that people hate conservatives

What, my belief that people should be able to enjoy the consumer base they have built without having it stolen from them?


Yes pretty much
Also the fact that you just said 'stolen' in the context of a digital and intangible quantity
And the fact that you think that someone (who is playing a game, mind you) is being negatively impacted by only making like $1000/hr instead of $1075/hr or whatever 1000 viewers would make

You're just do disillusioned and frankly stupid
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 02 2011 19:17 GMT
#1360
US streams are pretty hard to watch because of the amount of swearing and bm... only a few don't do this, that's why i <3 streamers like loci, dan dinh or chaox.
EU streams are much more profesional btw, might be because these guys actually wear sponsors colors and are forced to behave (witch is a good thing)
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
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