On November 29 2011 14:42 unichan wrote:
ap sivir is dead
i quit
ap sivir is dead
i quit
oh, is that all they had to do?
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:42 unichan wrote: ap sivir is dead i quit oh, is that all they had to do? | ||
rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: oh, is that all they had to do? unibro complains about AP sivir, but never plays sivir. | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:55 rwrzr wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 14:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: On November 29 2011 14:42 unichan wrote: ap sivir is dead i quit oh, is that all they had to do? unibro complains, but never plays. Fixd | ||
rob.au
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:00 rob.au wrote: Wukong gets owned in lane....melee + mana based + no sustain. So many heroes destroy him in lane. which isn't too much of a problem because his teamfight presence is gigantic even if he gets destroyed in lane | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:01 infinitestory wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 15:00 rob.au wrote: Wukong gets owned in lane....melee + mana based + no sustain. So many heroes destroy him in lane. which isn't too much of a problem because his teamfight presence is gigantic even if he gets destroyed in lane yah. imo they should buff scaling very slightly (like...0.1 scaling increase) and nerf his base damage on his ulti. i've seen too many wukongs just fail in lane and dominate fights anyways cause that ultimate is so damn strong even with minimum items | ||
STS17
United States1817 Posts
Time to bust out a lot of old favorites. Jungle Olaf coming back and going to be a strong contender if the farm is really improved that much. | ||
Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:04 STS17 wrote: These jungle changes seem drastic and haphazard... Time to bust out a lot of old favorites. Jungle Olaf coming back and going to be a strong contender if the farm is really improved that much. iunno bout that. olaf's problem was always that he needs more gold than jungle gives and his ganks are very mediocre since he has no gap closer and is super reliant on landing his Qs to close the distance. it's easier to just go afkfarm mode in jungle with the changes, but i doubt the jungle will generate nearly enough gold for olaf to be worth it. | ||
nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
By the way a few days ago I played against someone who said your name, was that you? who was it? o_o | ||
Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:01 infinitestory wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 15:00 rob.au wrote: Wukong gets owned in lane....melee + mana based + no sustain. So many heroes destroy him in lane. which isn't too much of a problem because his teamfight presence is gigantic even if he gets destroyed in lane But you're giving the enemy solotop free farm. My experience playing nasus vs. wukong is buy a cloth armor => ignore him except for qing him if hes nearby => get absurdly high numbers on q really quickly => oneshot people. I think wukong is really strong if you have a lane that he does ok in but weak if hes against a strong laner who scales well. | ||
STS17
United States1817 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:06 Ryuu314 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 15:04 STS17 wrote: These jungle changes seem drastic and haphazard... Time to bust out a lot of old favorites. Jungle Olaf coming back and going to be a strong contender if the farm is really improved that much. iunno bout that. olaf's problem was always that he needs more gold than jungle gives and his ganks are very mediocre since he has no gap closer and is super reliant on landing his Qs to close the distance. it's easier to just go afkfarm mode in jungle with the changes, but i doubt the jungle will generate nearly enough gold for olaf to be worth it. Jungle spawns are quicker and they have increased the gold value of the camps. Both of these promote farming in the jungle instead of trying to gank lanes meaning there is a greater emphasis on his strength (clearing camps quickly and farming the jungle) than his weakness (ganking lanes) so this is an indirect buff to him. Of course this is all speculation, not to mention relative since the other jungler will be getting more farm as well, but if my suspicion that they are trying to bring jungle-farm in line with lane-farm is correct then things should turn out well. | ||
Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
also Regi is really bad at kennen | ||
rredtooth
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
She, a bit like J4, feels basically unkillable when stacking health. It is true that she doesnt scale very hard, but she definitely gets to a point where killing her in a reasonable amount of time isnt going to happen, especially because you dont want to focus her. she pushes very, very fast too. so, she's not worthless unless you have very good team coordination, which makes her suboptimal. not terrible, but suboptimal. and I think we all know that suboptimal is still good enough to crush soloq | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:40 red_b wrote: I hate farmed Shyvana. She, a bit like J4, feels basically unkillable when stacking health. It is true that she doesnt scale very hard, but she definitely gets to a point where killing her in a reasonable amount of time isnt going to happen, especially because you dont want to focus her. she pushes very, very fast too. so, she's not worthless unless you have very good team coordination, which makes her suboptimal. not terrible, but suboptimal. and I think we all know that suboptimal is still good enough to crush soloq I think riven is better imo, has the same feeling when farmed like crazy. | ||
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:25 redtooth wrote: you've been waiting your whole life to make the general discussion thread haven't you lol i was thinking the same thing | ||
Chairman Ray
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