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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On November 25 2011 22:37 mr_tolkien wrote: Usually Morgana Kass and Sion are banned. Especially since we have 6 bans. But Morgana is at least as good as Sion. I'd still ban shit like Riven and Graves over Morg. Like I think on a overall level, Morg is probably even better than Sion, but Sion is just so abusive in soloqueue. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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rob.au
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On November 25 2011 23:06 Sabin010 wrote: Xerath is a very strong ap that has flown under the rader for a few weeks. level qeqwqr R>Q>W>E, and just siege up and one shot squishies. I don't see him played often in solo Q compared to arranged. But those who do play him, just pewpewpew their way to victory. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On November 25 2011 22:35 Woony wrote: I have no idea why you would ever ban morg over some bs like Kass and Sion in soloqueue. I mean she's a very solid and good pick but there are champs that are so much more dumb. I was thinking of buying kassadin next so I went over to read the Kassadin tread. Mostly what I gathered from the discussion was that Kassadin's early game is horrible and its tough to get to a point vs a good opponent (cs wise) to make him work. Has that changed? How good is kassadin atm? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On November 25 2011 23:54 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: I was thinking of buying kassadin next so I went over to read the Kassadin tread. Mostly what I gathered from the discussion was that Kassadin's early game is horrible and its tough to get to a point vs a good opponent (cs wise) to make him work. Has that changed? How good is kassadin atm? His levels 1-5 can be very rough, you are usually laning against AP, and you have to get up there and melee minons while being very squishy....it sucks. The second you get level 6 though the entire gameplan changes and Kass become crazy strong. you will make it to level 6 though, so its just a rough patch really, its not like you're going to get totally shutdown. Get a very early gank or poke and it helps a ton, even if it just reduces their health. goodness wise, Kassadin is a strong situational pick in high level play, he just shits on some characters and is tier 1 for sure IMO. Solo queue he is even better as people don't usually have to coordination to send their ad mid against him or switch lanes/pressure him early. He crushes solo. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On November 25 2011 22:44 rob.au wrote: Morgana is nearly impossible to mess up or gank for the first half of the game and is strong for the entire game so you have to ban her if you want to maximize your chance of carrying the game. For Morgana to have any kind of sustain she has to push her lane pretty damn hard, use that to your advantage. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 26 2011 00:07 sob3k wrote: His levels 1-5 can be very rough, you are usually laning against AP, and you have to get up there and melee minons while being very squishy....it sucks. The second you get level 6 though the entire gameplan changes and Kass become crazy strong. you will make it to level 6 though, so its just a rough patch really, its not like you're going to get totally shutdown. Get a very early gank or poke and it helps a ton, even if it just reduces their health. goodness wise, Kassadin is a strong situational pick in high level play, he just shits on some characters and is tier 1 for sure IMO. Solo queue he is even better as people don't usually have to coordination to send their ad mid against him or switch lanes/pressure him early. He crushes solo. if kass is just going to get zoned and shit on pre 6 why do people insist on sending him solo mid then? he cant be any worse vs bruiser top? On November 26 2011 00:13 Hynda wrote: For Morgana to have any kind of sustain she has to push her lane pretty damn hard, use that to your advantage. unless shes letting you poke her without dealing any damage back this is true. but if she are hurting her she should be trading blows and getting you low, makes ganking much harder no? she does have a habit of pushing i agree but i dont think its inevitable | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On November 25 2011 23:54 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: I was thinking of buying kassadin next so I went over to read the Kassadin tread. Mostly what I gathered from the discussion was that Kassadin's early game is horrible and its tough to get to a point vs a good opponent (cs wise) to make him work. Has that changed? How good is kassadin atm? He is fucking retarded in soloqueue. I'm like 22-2 with him (1700 elo). You can counter him if you send an AD carry vs. him. The thing is NOBODY does that in soloqueue, especially at lower ELOs. Playing AP vs. Kass has to be the dumbest thing in the game, you sort of have an advantage at early levels but he can get by and once he has level 7 and blue he jumps on you and takes 40% of your HP in one combo and there is NOTHING you can do against it because he comes out of no where and silences you for forever. The other thing is that Kass is the best cleanup hero in the game and most of the time soloqueue team fights will be a mess of people running around/away so it's REALLY easy to pick up kills and if your team has even the tiniest advantage Kass will pick up on it and carry his team to victory. On November 26 2011 00:43 Requizen wrote: So I haven't really been visiting these forums lately, what are the main thoughts on the new Summoner spells? I'm still using the same ones I did before (Flash on everything, Tele on top lane, Exhaust on AD carry, Smite for jungle), but what are other people using? Cleanse is now a viable option for a lot of champs (ad carries, certain melees) other than that not a whole lot changed. Well CV is pretty bad now and running Flash/Heal is probably better. (Heal pretty gud now) | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On November 26 2011 00:33 turdburgler wrote: if kass is just going to get zoned and shit on pre 6 why do people insist on sending him solo mid then? he cant be any worse vs bruiser top? unless shes letting you poke her without dealing any damage back this is true. but if she are hurting her she should be trading blows and getting you low, makes ganking much harder no? she does have a habit of pushing i agree but i dont think its inevitable play kass the taiwan way flat hp5 quints start regrowth pendant+pot -> philo no more problems pre6 ezpz | ||
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
On November 25 2011 14:59 Ryalnos wrote: Wow, I hope I remember never to go to GD again. Real bad. Ya, I just went there for like the 3rd time in 2 years to see what people were talking about, and I think I lost a little bit more faith in humanity after just a little 5-10mins trip. I guess I'll stick to TL LoL subforum... | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
On November 26 2011 00:13 Hynda wrote: For Morgana to have any kind of sustain she has to push her lane pretty damn hard, use that to your advantage. It doesn't really matter. Walk up > w > walk back. E for any ganks. If she has wards than she can stick around. On November 25 2011 22:40 Woony wrote: I'd still ban shit like Riven and Graves over Morg. Like I think on a overall level, Morg is probably even better than Sion, but Sion is just so abusive in soloqueue. Main reason I ban morg is because solo queue are too dumb to deal with her, rather than her being super strong. Riot does need to nerf her passive spellvamp, though. | ||
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