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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
November 25 2011 03:48 GMT
#2201
On November 25 2011 12:45 Ferrose wrote:
Elementz is mad. VERY mad.


I dont get the the feeling he is mad anymore, just very upset with how things went down.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#2202
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 03:54:15
November 25 2011 03:52 GMT
#2203
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.


Maybe they are thinking support is more expendable and easily replaced, while AP mids are not, so they tried fixing jiji, but are granting the same tolerance to Elementz.

It just makes me think CLG is a lot scummier and shady as they did not include Elementz in any of the discussions about picking up Doublelift and who was getting benched.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
November 25 2011 03:52 GMT
#2204
On November 25 2011 12:37 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/4417-clg-welcomes-doublelift-back-to-the-fold/

doublelift back


Elementz's official response.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1519967


Endless stupid drama. Is this how LoL manages to get an absurd viewership?
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 25 2011 03:54 GMT
#2205
Bleh...I guess people have to really admire TSM. They seem to have their shit together all too well, not just online and in game, but in real life.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 25 2011 03:55 GMT
#2206
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.


I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 25 2011 04:00 GMT
#2207
Man, best o luck to elementz, I hope another team will value him, and pick him up.,
liftlift > tsm
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
November 25 2011 04:00 GMT
#2208
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote:
The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.


Just a little curious as to why you believe Chauster harder to replace.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
November 25 2011 04:04 GMT
#2209
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.

Because they don't think Elementz is good enough.
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OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 25 2011 04:04 GMT
#2210
On November 25 2011 13:00 ClonedBefore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote:
The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.


Just a little curious as to why you believe Chauster harder to replace.


I'll clarify that a bit, he's not harder to replace because of skills, in fact I think he's easier to replace than a support that way. However, I think that hotshot would much rather make elementz a sub than he would make chauster a sub, and at the end of the day, it's still hotshot's team.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
November 25 2011 04:05 GMT
#2211
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.


I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.


Even though just two weeks ago (as stated in the article!) all of CLG agreed to a scrim schedule and Elementz said it worked for him?

Yeah, it seems like a big bullshit reason to me. I'm not the biggest Elementz fan but this just seems kinda... stupid. There's a lot of things wrong with that team besides just Elementz and to be fair I thought he was the only level-headed person on that team. Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim?
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 25 2011 04:08 GMT
#2212
Elementz is not the reason why you 15-0 TSM in lane, 3-0 them in dragons, 3-0 them in towers, get the first baron, and then LOSE.

There's a deeper problem here. When I saw a scrim where CLG was at least at a 15k gold advantage 20 minutes in and then proceeded to lose every teamfight up to 40 minutes then the game......... It was sort of obvious that their issues are in the TEAM, and not individual players. I have never seen CLG not pissed off at each other when they lose, or even win.

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
November 25 2011 04:09 GMT
#2213
Do we still have a separate LoL Drama thread or am I going to have to read like 10 posts about Elementz every time I visit this thread =(
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
November 25 2011 04:10 GMT
#2214
On November 25 2011 13:05 hasuprotoss wrote:
Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim?


The funny thing is, Elementz doesn't get as involved in those arguments as Saint, Chauster and Hotshot. To me he seems to be like the father trying to calm everyone down, trying to mediate things. He doesn't get heated like those three.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 25 2011 04:11 GMT
#2215
On November 25 2011 12:52 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 12:37 JBright wrote:
On November 24 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/4417-clg-welcomes-doublelift-back-to-the-fold/

doublelift back


Elementz's official response.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1519967


Endless stupid drama. Is this how LoL manages to get an absurd viewership?


Drama isn't a bad thing. Never understood how or why people consider drama and the spectacle a bad thing. Every sport has it in spades, the entire point of it is that if something goes dramatastic it can be settled in the event where one side or person defeats the other. Excitement and spectacle is what drives alot of fandom and enjoyment for many gives you a human connection which is very important in Esports.

I think Elementz is a good support, still do. Though his lack of showing up for scrims and such doesn't do him any good. I am sure he'll do just fine. He'd make a pretty solid Shoutcaster if he wanted to.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 25 2011 04:14 GMT
#2216
On November 25 2011 13:05 hasuprotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote:
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.


I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.


Even though just two weeks ago (as stated in the article!) all of CLG agreed to a scrim schedule and Elementz said it worked for him?

Yeah, it seems like a big bullshit reason to me. I'm not the biggest Elementz fan but this just seems kinda... stupid. There's a lot of things wrong with that team besides just Elementz and to be fair I thought he was the only level-headed person on that team. Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim?


Here's the thing, everyone (including himself) keeps saying he's being kicked. But he's not kicked, CLG is trying something out and now he's a sub. If he thinks he's good enough, all he has to do is prove it. The only reason this is big news is because it's CLG. When dignitas (then Rock Solid), brought in Jatt, I'm sure the same conversation happened with Rambo.
Nhat brought a lot of pressure to other supports since he actually played support. While I disagree with elementz being subbed out just like everyone else. I will respect CLG's decision until results show that it was a mistake (which will probably happen)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 25 2011 04:19 GMT
#2217
Ehhh, they kind of dicked elementz. Maybe it'll work out for CLG and they'll improve, but really the right thing would have been to simply talk to elementz and work it out for real instead of just bench him without even really talking to him first......
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 25 2011 04:22 GMT
#2218
Hotshot, Chauster, and jiji are all original CLG members. Hell the whole team started around jiji's pre-made back in beta. There's no way any of those three are ever getting benched. And to what someone said earlier about Ele being kicked out, he was simply benched. I wouldn't be surprised if Doublelift leaves CLG again.

No matter how good people think Ele is at support and stuff he's definitely the worst player on that team. Maybe not the reason they don't win games or the source of team drama or anything like that but mechanically he is worse than anyone else on CLG. He's still good, better than me, but definitely not at the level of the rest of CLG.

Will be interesting to see if Ele stays with CLG or tries to find a new team though. Especially since his Reign of Gaming thing is now attached to CLG. I think it sucks for Elementz. But no matter what he says I think the rest of CLG is better than him. I think that Doublelift is highly underrated as a player and it should be cool to see him develop more as an AD carry. CLG gave some bullshit reasons but honestly the only reason they could give him would be, "Doublelift and rest of us are better than you, sorry."
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 04:26:04
November 25 2011 04:23 GMT
#2219
On November 25 2011 13:14 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 13:05 hasuprotoss wrote:
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote:
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote:
I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response.


I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is.


Even though just two weeks ago (as stated in the article!) all of CLG agreed to a scrim schedule and Elementz said it worked for him?

Yeah, it seems like a big bullshit reason to me. I'm not the biggest Elementz fan but this just seems kinda... stupid. There's a lot of things wrong with that team besides just Elementz and to be fair I thought he was the only level-headed person on that team. Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim?


Here's the thing, everyone (including himself) keeps saying he's being kicked. But he's not kicked, CLG is trying something out and now he's a sub. If he thinks he's good enough, all he has to do is prove it. The only reason this is big news is because it's CLG. When dignitas (then Rock Solid), brought in Jatt, I'm sure the same conversation happened with Rambo.
Nhat brought a lot of pressure to other supports since he actually played support. While I disagree with elementz being subbed out just like everyone else. I will respect CLG's decision until results show that it was a mistake (which will probably happen)


As a competitive player, no one wants to be benched. It's effectively like you're off the team since I doubt the 5 playing will want to split the prize money to a person who on the bench. Can you imagine what will happen if there are 2 or 3 benched players on a team and they have to split the money 8 ways? Being benched is the reason Doublelift left CLG in the first place.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 25 2011 04:31 GMT
#2220
On November 25 2011 13:09 rigwarl wrote:
Do we still have a separate LoL Drama thread or am I going to have to read like 10 posts about Elementz every time I visit this thread =(


We used to, and then it got closed because I called people out on being sexists and it got derailed.
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