EPTOn November 25 2011 12:45 Ferrose wrote:
Elementz is mad. VERY mad.
Elementz is mad. VERY mad.
I dont get the the feeling he is mad anymore, just very upset with how things went down.
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ClonedBefore
United States289 Posts
I dont get the the feeling he is mad anymore, just very upset with how things went down. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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ClonedBefore
United States289 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote: I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response. Maybe they are thinking support is more expendable and easily replaced, while AP mids are not, so they tried fixing jiji, but are granting the same tolerance to Elementz. It just makes me think CLG is a lot scummier and shady as they did not include Elementz in any of the discussions about picking up Doublelift and who was getting benched. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:37 JBright wrote: Elementz's official response. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1519967 Endless stupid drama. Is this how LoL manages to get an absurd viewership? | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote: I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response. I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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ClonedBefore
United States289 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote: The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is. Just a little curious as to why you believe Chauster harder to replace. | ||
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Craton
United States17235 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:50 Shiragaku wrote: I am rather confused why they kicked out Elementz still after reading the response. Because they don't think Elementz is good enough. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On November 25 2011 13:00 ClonedBefore wrote: Just a little curious as to why you believe Chauster harder to replace. I'll clarify that a bit, he's not harder to replace because of skills, in fact I think he's easier to replace than a support that way. However, I think that hotshot would much rather make elementz a sub than he would make chauster a sub, and at the end of the day, it's still hotshot's team. | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:55 OreoBoi wrote: I believe it has to do with how little elementz actually practices. Like people make fun of hotshot for trolling solo queue because he doesn't care. But you know what hotshot does, he goes out and scrims with other teams, MiG needs a top? Hotshot subs in. How many times has clg stopped scrimming because elementz had to go out and do something? The people that practice the least on CLG are chauster and elementz imo and I think chauster is harder to replace than elementz is. Even though just two weeks ago (as stated in the article!) all of CLG agreed to a scrim schedule and Elementz said it worked for him? Yeah, it seems like a big bullshit reason to me. I'm not the biggest Elementz fan but this just seems kinda... stupid. There's a lot of things wrong with that team besides just Elementz and to be fair I thought he was the only level-headed person on that team. Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim? | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
There's a deeper problem here. When I saw a scrim where CLG was at least at a 15k gold advantage 20 minutes in and then proceeded to lose every teamfight up to 40 minutes then the game......... It was sort of obvious that their issues are in the TEAM, and not individual players. I have never seen CLG not pissed off at each other when they lose, or even win. | ||
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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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ClonedBefore
United States289 Posts
On November 25 2011 13:05 hasuprotoss wrote: Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim? The funny thing is, Elementz doesn't get as involved in those arguments as Saint, Chauster and Hotshot. To me he seems to be like the father trying to calm everyone down, trying to mediate things. He doesn't get heated like those three. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On November 25 2011 12:52 Offhand wrote: Endless stupid drama. Is this how LoL manages to get an absurd viewership? Drama isn't a bad thing. Never understood how or why people consider drama and the spectacle a bad thing. Every sport has it in spades, the entire point of it is that if something goes dramatastic it can be settled in the event where one side or person defeats the other. Excitement and spectacle is what drives alot of fandom and enjoyment for many gives you a human connection which is very important in Esports. I think Elementz is a good support, still do. Though his lack of showing up for scrims and such doesn't do him any good. I am sure he'll do just fine. He'd make a pretty solid Shoutcaster if he wanted to. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On November 25 2011 13:05 hasuprotoss wrote: Even though just two weeks ago (as stated in the article!) all of CLG agreed to a scrim schedule and Elementz said it worked for him? Yeah, it seems like a big bullshit reason to me. I'm not the biggest Elementz fan but this just seems kinda... stupid. There's a lot of things wrong with that team besides just Elementz and to be fair I thought he was the only level-headed person on that team. Have you ever heard CLG's vent during a scrim? Here's the thing, everyone (including himself) keeps saying he's being kicked. But he's not kicked, CLG is trying something out and now he's a sub. If he thinks he's good enough, all he has to do is prove it. The only reason this is big news is because it's CLG. When dignitas (then Rock Solid), brought in Jatt, I'm sure the same conversation happened with Rambo. Nhat brought a lot of pressure to other supports since he actually played support. While I disagree with elementz being subbed out just like everyone else. I will respect CLG's decision until results show that it was a mistake (which will probably happen) | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
No matter how good people think Ele is at support and stuff he's definitely the worst player on that team. Maybe not the reason they don't win games or the source of team drama or anything like that but mechanically he is worse than anyone else on CLG. He's still good, better than me, but definitely not at the level of the rest of CLG. Will be interesting to see if Ele stays with CLG or tries to find a new team though. Especially since his Reign of Gaming thing is now attached to CLG. I think it sucks for Elementz. But no matter what he says I think the rest of CLG is better than him. I think that Doublelift is highly underrated as a player and it should be cool to see him develop more as an AD carry. CLG gave some bullshit reasons but honestly the only reason they could give him would be, "Doublelift and rest of us are better than you, sorry." | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On November 25 2011 13:14 OreoBoi wrote: Here's the thing, everyone (including himself) keeps saying he's being kicked. But he's not kicked, CLG is trying something out and now he's a sub. If he thinks he's good enough, all he has to do is prove it. The only reason this is big news is because it's CLG. When dignitas (then Rock Solid), brought in Jatt, I'm sure the same conversation happened with Rambo. Nhat brought a lot of pressure to other supports since he actually played support. While I disagree with elementz being subbed out just like everyone else. I will respect CLG's decision until results show that it was a mistake (which will probably happen) As a competitive player, no one wants to be benched. It's effectively like you're off the team since I doubt the 5 playing will want to split the prize money to a person who on the bench. Can you imagine what will happen if there are 2 or 3 benched players on a team and they have to split the money 8 ways? Being benched is the reason Doublelift left CLG in the first place. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On November 25 2011 13:09 rigwarl wrote: Do we still have a separate LoL Drama thread or am I going to have to read like 10 posts about Elementz every time I visit this thread =( We used to, and then it got closed because I called people out on being sexists and it got derailed. | ||
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