EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 88
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
On November 06 2011 09:26 TheYango wrote: ArPen is usually going to provide a greater increase in damage on those spells unless they do AD scaling magic damage (e.g. Jax, Yorick, and Udyr, who, IIRC do use AD marks), because ArPen will significantly multiply the base damage. This isn't a smoothly increasing benefit, though. Passing certain amounts of AD will be very useful for lasthitting under tower, and others will be less useful (e.g. having just enough AD to kill a ranged minion that's been hit by tower once, rather than needing to hit it once first). Flat pen becomes weaker after LW, but is it weaker than the flat AD from marks? Consider a 150 armor target. With LW and ArPen marks, it has 81 effective armor. Without ArPen marks, it has 90 effective armor. The difference is about a 5% damage increase. If you have 171 or more AD (an easily attainable value), the flat ArPen is still a greater damage increase than the 8.55 AD you get from flat AD marks. The flat ArPen becomes worse against targets with higher armor values, but likewise it becomes better at higher AD values (because Armor Penetration acts as a multiplier on physical damage, while AD is a flat increase). I'm too lazy to do the math, I do enough of it for my mechanical engineering degree, but I guess what I'm saying is that I personally haven't noticed a difference in my overall damage output at almost all points in the game by using AD runes over armor pen. With a dblade and ad runes you can one shot caster minions off of the tower as an AD carry early on. Pretty helpful in that sense. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:13 LoCicero wrote: I'm too lazy to do the math, I do enough of it for my mechanical engineering degree, but I guess what I'm saying is that I personally haven't noticed a difference in my overall damage output at almost all points in the game by using AD runes over armor pen. With a dblade and ad runes you can one shot caster minions off of the tower as an AD carry early on. Pretty helpful in that sense. I thought you could do that with just quints, and not need the marks? | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:24 Two_DoWn wrote: Epik, Dig, TSM, and its looking like clg are your 4 teams. probably could of known this without watching any of the games lol | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
also dont give hsgg nidalee. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Oh MLG did it? That makes sense then. | ||
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TofuFox
374 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:28 Sponkz wrote: there is no sound on any clg stream? also dont give hsgg nidalee. MLG apparently doesn't want them streaming with sound. | ||
Flicky
England2674 Posts
Also, I chuckled a bit at the four qualified teams. Why wouldn't you just invite these four teams anyway. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:39 Craton wrote: Lux lazor can do that he is fine. <.< >.> <.<What could possibly be unfair about Xerath hitting the wraith entrance from the area left of purple's blue buff. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
i wanna see tsm vs clg | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:13 LoCicero wrote: I'm too lazy to do the math, I do enough of it for my mechanical engineering degree, but I guess what I'm saying is that I personally haven't noticed a difference in my overall damage output at almost all points in the game by using AD runes over armor pen. With a dblade and ad runes you can one shot caster minions off of the tower as an AD carry early on. Pretty helpful in that sense. That's really strange, as every time I go for AD runes instead of Apen it feels like I deal absolutely no dmg. | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3837 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
I hear other teams also stream but they use other sites. At least I don't see them use own3d. Though there are also a bunch of players that aren't CLG or TSM, but use tag for own3d. | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3837 Posts
Although whenever I watch 'high quality' streams on own3d the stream is all green and unwatchable (not because of my connection, the stream is super smooth), and most of the streams on that site dont have a lower quality version Edit: I've tried googling for my problem but I still have no idea what causes it, I guess my GFX card? | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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