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Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
September 22 2011 20:45 GMT
#21
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
September 22 2011 22:16 GMT
#22
On September 23 2011 05:45 Joshy.IGN wrote:
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.


It's obviously not a failure but it's really really shitty, but it seems it can't be helped, it just sucks that some of the best talent is in kids like voyboy and salce and even pobelter, very KEY players in those teams and hopefully they do well without them.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#23
On September 23 2011 05:45 Joshy.IGN wrote:
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.


It's a tournament that excludes top ranked players.

If a tournament is an attempt to decide wich team is the best then this tournament can only be called a failure because it excludes players.

We agree that integrity is paramount but


So it's not paramount.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#24
I think IGN have tried their best in order to make a successful tournament. Sometimes, things just don't work out for whatever reason be they sheer bad luck, legal restrictions, etc. I'll be looking forward to this a lot.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 22:49:28
September 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#25
what do you expect them to do? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey until the 3-4 players you think have to be at a tournament for it to be "a success" are old enough to legally enter a gaming tournament in that state? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey at all? are these really superior options or are you just nitpicking -_-

IPL's responding to LoL's growth and putting a tournament together, it's absurd to complain about it, call it a failure, and basically say they lack integrity over something like this.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#26
It's a shame some players are left out, but what can IPL really do against legal issues such as this? Not their fault.

Hope there's some good streaming and please please please announce stream times in GMT too, there's more than just americans interested.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#27
It's another LAN tournament... not sure why you guys are griping.
Sure, some premiere teams are going to miss some of their players but come on. An offline tournament for NA with a solid purse (not sure if this one is fully funded by Riot this time :o). I definitely feel the pros outweigh the cons here.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 23 2011 00:19 GMT
#28
The tournament is being held in a *casino*. Not much they can do to get around state laws. I find it a bit ridiculous to criticize them for this.

ANYWAY.... Any of our LoL TLers going to this? Gonna be freakign awesome! Caesars is amazing!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
September 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#29
regular weekend AC'ers are going to be so confused ahahha
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#30
i might have actually been able to go spec.. i'm only 2 hours from atlantic city.

boohoo i'm not 18.
derp
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:03:11
September 23 2011 01:02 GMT
#31
Sounds absolutely incredible. I hope they will have a structured qualification system for the next tournament and a bigger prizepool to boot.

A tournament with:

CLG
TSM
Dignitas
Epic Gaming
Fnatic
SK
Millenium
Sypher
(Perhaps even +8 more teams from across the world)

would be amazing.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:43:35
September 23 2011 01:40 GMT
#32
On September 23 2011 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
what do you expect them to do? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey until the 3-4 players you think have to be at a tournament for it to be "a success" are old enough to legally enter a gaming tournament in that state? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey at all? are these really superior options or are you just nitpicking -_-

IPL's responding to LoL's growth and putting a tournament together, it's absurd to complain about it, call it a failure, and basically say they lack integrity over something like this.

Why is it unreasonable to expect them to host a tournament where the players can actually attend?

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.

Why shouldn't I? This is a massive blunder by the organizers. You could've chosen so many other venues that would've allowed the players, but you chose one that actively prohibits them.

It's a shame some players are left out, but what can IPL really do against legal issues such as this? Not their fault.

How about pick a different venue? Age restrictions should've been a top priority when making that decision. It's entirely IGN's fault.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 23 2011 01:46 GMT
#33
So what? If they pick a date that salce cant go because he has a test he cant miss and cant go because of school, its IGN's fault?

I guarantee that even if the event was not 18+, some member of some team would not be able to attend. It happens.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:53:13
September 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#34
That's a ridiculous comparison.

Any competent tournament should realize they're going to have players under 18 and plan accordingly. They didn't. What's so special about picking a place that actively denies players instead of picking one that would permit them? It's one of those head-slappingly obvious decisions, and yet they did the opposite.

If they picked a date that conflicted with another major tournament (say, MLG), then it would indeed by IGN's fault because of a failure to plan for obvious problems. Age restrictions are an obvious problem.

I don't get how you can plan a tournament and think "should I pick a venue with an age restriction or with no age restriction" and choose the first.
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Fasterfood
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
September 23 2011 01:53 GMT
#35
I am twelve different kinds of excited about this
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 23 2011 02:58 GMT
#36
This tourney sounds great. Excited for it to go ahead.

Bummer bout certain players not being able to attend, but ya know - shit happens. Sounds like the venue is going to be pretty amazing. Would be cool if the next time one of these is hosted there aren't age restrictions, but it's only a couple players that can't make it, so it's an acceptable tradeoff for a sick venue IMO
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 23 2011 03:33 GMT
#37
On September 23 2011 10:40 Craton wrote:
Why is it unreasonable to expect them to host a tournament where the players can actually attend?

Because IPL AC was going to be an event long before they even considered adding LoL to the roster? Not like it's the only game getting played there.

It was a last minute addition. Changing the venue now would piss off everyone who already booked their travel plans for IPL for other games (e.g. SC2). It's entirely unreasonable to ask that of them. The only other realistic option is to not have LoL at IPL AC at all.
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
September 23 2011 03:47 GMT
#38
On September 22 2011 03:14 Craton wrote:
IPL doesn't have players on-site, right? So couldn't they just have a league that spans several months like SC2 does? Just have 2-4 teams play in a bo3 on a given night and then at the end of the season go into a playoff system. If EU teams got involved, you'd have prob 10-12 solid teams.

TSM
EG
CLG
RS
Crs
Rez
TGM
Unr

AAA (disbanded?)
M
Fnatic
SK
Sypher
Frag eXecutors
GAMED
myRevenge
Competo
TT
mTL


AAA didn't disband they are part of millennium now
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 23 2011 03:57 GMT
#39
On September 23 2011 10:50 Craton wrote:
That's a ridiculous comparison.

Any competent tournament should realize they're going to have players under 18 and plan accordingly. They didn't. What's so special about picking a place that actively denies players instead of picking one that would permit them? It's one of those head-slappingly obvious decisions, and yet they did the opposite.

If they picked a date that conflicted with another major tournament (say, MLG), then it would indeed by IGN's fault because of a failure to plan for obvious problems. Age restrictions are an obvious problem.

I don't get how you can plan a tournament and think "should I pick a venue with an age restriction or with no age restriction" and choose the first.

Or you can go with:

Do I want to set myself up with a venue that will create a spectacle and draw lots of attention to what I am doing? Or do I want to pidgeonhole myself into what everyone else has already done?

Im willing to trade a handful of competitors if it means that the ones who actually can compete are on a bigger stage with more eyeballs.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 05:16:02
September 23 2011 05:03 GMT
#40
Ah yes, lets have all these people maybe see this game with substandard players... When you're trying to sell something to a new audience/market, you want the very best of the best to impress them. A very apt example is that of xPeke and fnatic and how their play was night and day between having a sub and having him.

You're operating on the tremendous assumption that you couldn't get this "spectacle" elsewhere and that a bunch of people who are there to gamble are going to want to instead watch video games, somehow drastically increasing the viewership they'd get elsewhere.
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