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League of Legends makes its debut at IGN ProLeague

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United States2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:30:41
September 21 2011 17:25 GMT
#1
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ign-adds-riot-games-league-of-legends-to-line-up-at-ipl-3-origins-pro-gaming-tournament-at-caesars-atlantic-city-130272858.html

IGN Adds Riot Games' League of Legends to Line up at IPL 3: Origins Pro Gaming Tournament at Caesars Atlantic City

League of Legends joins StarCraft II as Second Game to be Featured at IGN Pro League Tournament at Caesars Atlantic City October 6-9

SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 21, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- IGN Entertainment, the world's leading video games media company, today announced that Riot Games' League of Legends will join the tournament line up at IPL 3: Origins – the IGN Pro League competitive video gaming tournament taking place October 6-9th at Caesars Atlantic City.

The addition of League of Legends – the popular multiplayer online battle arena game – introduces team-based competitive gaming to the tournament mix at IGN's Caesars Atlantic City event and marks the first in a series of IGN Pro League tournaments that will feature League of Legends over the next year. With over 15 million registered players, League of Legends is one of the world's most popular PC games – and its eSports audience continues to grow, with over 2.8 million viewers for the game's most recent competitive livestream.

On Saturday October 8th and Sunday October 9th, eight of the world's top League of Legends teams will be invited to compete for cash prizes. Tickets for the IPL 3: Origins event can be purchased at http://tickets.ign.com.

"League of Legends has a tremendous following and adds a whole new dimension to our Caesars Atlantic City tournament," said David Ting, General Manager of eSports and Vice President of Research & Development at IGN Entertainment. "We're thrilled to partner with Riot to bring team-based gameplay to the stage at IPL 3: Origins and even more awareness and acceptance of eSports as a legitimate profession and spectator sport."

"We see an incredible future for eSports, which is why we're so committed to supporting the League of Legends competitive scene with a five million dollar Season Two prize pool," said Brandon Beck, co-founder and CEO of Riot Games. "We can't wait to see the level of competition in the IGN Pro League, starting with the Caesars Atlantic City event!"

IGN 3: Origins at Caesars Atlantic City marks the first time two mega-hit games will be featured at an IGN Pro League tournament and the first competitive video gaming tournament to be held at Caesars. In addition to the League of Legends tournament, IPL 3: Origins will feature the world's top StarCraft II players competing for $100,000 in prizes. IPL 3: Origins in Atlantic City, as well as past IPL tournaments, can be accessed online exclusively at http://www.ign.com/ipl.

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League of Legends Joins IPL Gaming Tournament
Popular battle arena game in IGN Pro League.

Riot Games' League of Legends is joining the tournament line up at IPL 3: Origins – the IGN Pro League competitive video gaming tournament taking place October 6-9th at Caesars Atlantic City.

The addition of multiplayer online battle arena game League of Legends introduces team-based competitive gaming to the tournament mix at IGN's Caesars Atlantic City event and marks the first in a series of IGN Pro League tournaments that will feature League of Legends over the next year.

With over 15 million registered players, League of Legends is one of the world's most popular PC games – and its eSports audience continues to grow, with over 2.8 million viewers for the game's most recent competitive live-stream.

On Saturday October 8th and Sunday October 9th, eight of the world's top League of Legends teams will be invited to compete for cash prizes. Tickets for the IPL 3: Origins event can be purchased here.

Brandon Beck, co-founder and CEO of Riot Games said, "We see an incredible future for eSports, which is why we're so committed to supporting the League of Legends competitive scene with a five million dollar Season Two prize pool."

"League of Legends has a tremendous following and adds a whole new dimension to our Caesars Atlantic City tournament," said David Ting, General Manager of eSports and Vice President of Research & Development at IGN Entertainment. "We're thrilled to partner with Riot to bring team-based gameplay to the stage at IPL 3: Origins and even more awareness and acceptance of eSports as a legitimate profession and spectator sport."

In addition to the League of Legends tournament, IPL 3: Origins will feature the world's top StarCraft II players competing for $100,000 in prizes. IPL 3: Origins in Atlantic City, as well as past IPL tournaments, can be accessed online exclusively here.
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
September 21 2011 17:30 GMT
#2
Cool stuff, I will admit to not having seen the IGN proleague before, but IGN should hopefully be able to provide a good addition to the LoL eSports scene
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Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
September 21 2011 17:35 GMT
#3
Now if only there was as an easily available spectator client for us to watch these games ourselves...
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 21 2011 17:40 GMT
#4
ZZZ. Should be 6 of the top teams and a us/eu tourney for the last 2 spots. All these invite only tourneys make it very hard for new teams to emerge.
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ilikestufff
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada2 Posts
September 21 2011 17:43 GMT
#5
So a bunch of the teams will have to finish their games in Guangzhou on the evening of the 5th, and then try make it to Atlantic City for the 7th~...

Good luck. l0l
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:06:00
September 21 2011 18:04 GMT
#6
Wont be so bad thanks to the date line. They'll probably just fly out of China the night of the 5th, arriving probably in the U.S. (probably still on the 5th) and then have a full day to get settled.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
September 21 2011 18:10 GMT
#7
Riot is definitely fighting back against HoN's inclusion in NASL. I didn't count MLG since it seems like MLG will test out HoN and even DotA2 before deciding which one to keep. This seems to be a pretty good collaboration so I hope there'll be no major hiccups in the tournament.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:21:33
September 21 2011 18:14 GMT
#8
IPL doesn't have players on-site, right? So couldn't they just have a league that spans several months like SC2 does? Just have 2-4 teams play in a bo3 on a given night and then at the end of the season go into a playoff system. If EU teams got involved, you'd have prob 10-12 solid teams.

TSM
EG
CLG
RS
Crs
Rez
TGM
Unr

AAA (disbanded?)
M
Fnatic
SK
Sypher
Frag eXecutors
GAMED
myRevenge
Competo
TT
mTL
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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 21 2011 18:17 GMT
#9
On September 22 2011 03:14 Craton wrote:
ISL doesn't have players on-site, right? So couldn't they just have a league that spans several months like SC2 does? Just have 2-4 teams play in a bo3 on a given night and then at the end of the season go into a playoff system. If EU teams got involved, you'd have prob 10-12 solid teams.

TSM
EG
CLG
RS
CRS

AAA
M
Fnatic
SK

I'm missing some.

IPL 3 is going to be onsite at Atlantic City. I assume it's an invitational like every other major tournament was.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:22:30
September 21 2011 18:19 GMT
#10
I know that this event is, but aren't the general games (that run fairly frequently) for IPL not on location? Or do they just cast old games? There's a qualifier on the sidebar right now for what I'm talking about.
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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
September 21 2011 18:26 GMT
#11
All players will be on site!

For StarCraft 2 we ran online tournaments thus far so no, the players were, for obvious reasons, not on site.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:37:40
September 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#12
That's what I thought.

So what about online tournaments for LoL games? There are certainly enough teams (just look at go4lol which packs a ridiculous amount of games into a single day every week).

Also, MAKE SURE YOU TEST IF THE OBSERVER MODE IS WORKING BEFORE THE DAY OF GAMES! I'ma be real upset if MLG 2.0 occurs.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 21 2011 18:36 GMT
#13
In other news, I cant wait to see the inevitable SK collapse in this tourney too.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#14
IPL Eight invited teams:

CLG
TSM
Epik
Curse
Rez
Goose
compLexity Gaming
Dignitas (formerly Rock Solid)

Sad no EU teams. :<
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:37:14
September 21 2011 19:36 GMT
#15
Nice to actually see the announcement for this! The existence of a tournament in Atlantic City was accidentally leaked awhile ago and I imagined it would be IPL.

Sadly, at least three of the teams(EG, RS, Crs) are hurt by the player age requirement(18+). Salce, Voyboy, and Pobelter are all too young. Curse should be the least impacted because of their large roster, RS can sub Rambo in but he, Jatt, and Locust aren't the best solo laners, and EG has been practicing with Crumbzz (from TGM) as an AP sub.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 21 2011 19:52 GMT
#16
I doubt they could have gotten the EU teams + their visas done on such a short notice. :|
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
September 21 2011 20:06 GMT
#17
I'm pretty sure almost every EU player (on a team that would've been invited) is in a country that is part of the visa waiver program and probably (or should at least) already have passports.
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Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
September 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#18
On September 22 2011 04:36 HPoirot wrote:
Nice to actually see the announcement for this! The existence of a tournament in Atlantic City was accidentally leaked awhile ago and I imagined it would be IPL.

Sadly, at least three of the teams(EG, RS, Crs) are hurt by the player age requirement(18+). Salce, Voyboy, and Pobelter are all too young. Curse should be the least impacted because of their large roster, RS can sub Rambo in but he, Jatt, and Locust aren't the best solo laners, and EG has been practicing with Crumbzz (from TGM) as an AP sub.


I don't think they're barred from entry. When it first came out about IPL3 for SC2, the IPL admins stated competitors can sign a waiver if they are under age and can compete. The age restriction is only for spectators attending the event.

Good to see LoL at another big event. I'm not really worried about CLG @ China, as there are a ton of Starcraft players at that tournament as well flying back to compete. I'm sure IGN has it all planned out.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 18:20:22
September 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#19
On September 22 2011 05:14 Ome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:36 HPoirot wrote:
Nice to actually see the announcement for this! The existence of a tournament in Atlantic City was accidentally leaked awhile ago and I imagined it would be IPL.

Sadly, at least three of the teams(EG, RS, Crs) are hurt by the player age requirement(18+). Salce, Voyboy, and Pobelter are all too young. Curse should be the least impacted because of their large roster, RS can sub Rambo in but he, Jatt, and Locust aren't the best solo laners, and EG has been practicing with Crumbzz (from TGM) as an AP sub.


I don't think they're barred from entry. When it first came out about IPL3 for SC2, the IPL admins stated competitors can sign a waiver if they are under age and can compete. The age restriction is only for spectators attending the event.

Good to see LoL at another big event. I'm not really worried about CLG @ China, as there are a ton of Starcraft players at that tournament as well flying back to compete. I'm sure IGN has it all planned out.


That was an exception for under 21, but you need 18 to compete, EG confirmed it today that Salce coudln't go because of the 18 age restriction.

This tourney just went from cool to kind of lame seeing many of the top players just can't go, integrity of the tournament should be paramount, yet in this case it isn't.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 20:43:14
September 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#20
Looks like IGN has already failed their tournament without having even reached its date.

It's truly moronic to choose a venue that would bar members of the teams you want to play.
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Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
September 22 2011 20:45 GMT
#21
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
September 22 2011 22:16 GMT
#22
On September 23 2011 05:45 Joshy.IGN wrote:
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.


It's obviously not a failure but it's really really shitty, but it seems it can't be helped, it just sucks that some of the best talent is in kids like voyboy and salce and even pobelter, very KEY players in those teams and hopefully they do well without them.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#23
On September 23 2011 05:45 Joshy.IGN wrote:
The age restriction is unfortunate but unavoidable for the venue that we have. New Jersey laws won't allow it. We agree that integrity is paramount but this is also our first venture into League of Legends and we want to ensure a smooth tournament for our first try. If things go well of course we will be more likely to see a bigger variety of LoL events in the future.

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.


It's a tournament that excludes top ranked players.

If a tournament is an attempt to decide wich team is the best then this tournament can only be called a failure because it excludes players.

We agree that integrity is paramount but


So it's not paramount.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#24
I think IGN have tried their best in order to make a successful tournament. Sometimes, things just don't work out for whatever reason be they sheer bad luck, legal restrictions, etc. I'll be looking forward to this a lot.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 22:49:28
September 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#25
what do you expect them to do? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey until the 3-4 players you think have to be at a tournament for it to be "a success" are old enough to legally enter a gaming tournament in that state? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey at all? are these really superior options or are you just nitpicking -_-

IPL's responding to LoL's growth and putting a tournament together, it's absurd to complain about it, call it a failure, and basically say they lack integrity over something like this.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#26
It's a shame some players are left out, but what can IPL really do against legal issues such as this? Not their fault.

Hope there's some good streaming and please please please announce stream times in GMT too, there's more than just americans interested.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#27
It's another LAN tournament... not sure why you guys are griping.
Sure, some premiere teams are going to miss some of their players but come on. An offline tournament for NA with a solid purse (not sure if this one is fully funded by Riot this time :o). I definitely feel the pros outweigh the cons here.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 23 2011 00:19 GMT
#28
The tournament is being held in a *casino*. Not much they can do to get around state laws. I find it a bit ridiculous to criticize them for this.

ANYWAY.... Any of our LoL TLers going to this? Gonna be freakign awesome! Caesars is amazing!
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stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
September 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#29
regular weekend AC'ers are going to be so confused ahahha
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#30
i might have actually been able to go spec.. i'm only 2 hours from atlantic city.

boohoo i'm not 18.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:03:11
September 23 2011 01:02 GMT
#31
Sounds absolutely incredible. I hope they will have a structured qualification system for the next tournament and a bigger prizepool to boot.

A tournament with:

CLG
TSM
Dignitas
Epic Gaming
Fnatic
SK
Millenium
Sypher
(Perhaps even +8 more teams from across the world)

would be amazing.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:43:35
September 23 2011 01:40 GMT
#32
On September 23 2011 07:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
what do you expect them to do? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey until the 3-4 players you think have to be at a tournament for it to be "a success" are old enough to legally enter a gaming tournament in that state? not host a LoL tournament in Jersey at all? are these really superior options or are you just nitpicking -_-

IPL's responding to LoL's growth and putting a tournament together, it's absurd to complain about it, call it a failure, and basically say they lack integrity over something like this.

Why is it unreasonable to expect them to host a tournament where the players can actually attend?

I hope you don't honestly think that we've failed just because a couple of players are too young to compete. They will have their chances in the future.

Why shouldn't I? This is a massive blunder by the organizers. You could've chosen so many other venues that would've allowed the players, but you chose one that actively prohibits them.

It's a shame some players are left out, but what can IPL really do against legal issues such as this? Not their fault.

How about pick a different venue? Age restrictions should've been a top priority when making that decision. It's entirely IGN's fault.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 23 2011 01:46 GMT
#33
So what? If they pick a date that salce cant go because he has a test he cant miss and cant go because of school, its IGN's fault?

I guarantee that even if the event was not 18+, some member of some team would not be able to attend. It happens.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 01:53:13
September 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#34
That's a ridiculous comparison.

Any competent tournament should realize they're going to have players under 18 and plan accordingly. They didn't. What's so special about picking a place that actively denies players instead of picking one that would permit them? It's one of those head-slappingly obvious decisions, and yet they did the opposite.

If they picked a date that conflicted with another major tournament (say, MLG), then it would indeed by IGN's fault because of a failure to plan for obvious problems. Age restrictions are an obvious problem.

I don't get how you can plan a tournament and think "should I pick a venue with an age restriction or with no age restriction" and choose the first.
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Fasterfood
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
September 23 2011 01:53 GMT
#35
I am twelve different kinds of excited about this
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 23 2011 02:58 GMT
#36
This tourney sounds great. Excited for it to go ahead.

Bummer bout certain players not being able to attend, but ya know - shit happens. Sounds like the venue is going to be pretty amazing. Would be cool if the next time one of these is hosted there aren't age restrictions, but it's only a couple players that can't make it, so it's an acceptable tradeoff for a sick venue IMO
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 23 2011 03:33 GMT
#37
On September 23 2011 10:40 Craton wrote:
Why is it unreasonable to expect them to host a tournament where the players can actually attend?

Because IPL AC was going to be an event long before they even considered adding LoL to the roster? Not like it's the only game getting played there.

It was a last minute addition. Changing the venue now would piss off everyone who already booked their travel plans for IPL for other games (e.g. SC2). It's entirely unreasonable to ask that of them. The only other realistic option is to not have LoL at IPL AC at all.
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
September 23 2011 03:47 GMT
#38
On September 22 2011 03:14 Craton wrote:
IPL doesn't have players on-site, right? So couldn't they just have a league that spans several months like SC2 does? Just have 2-4 teams play in a bo3 on a given night and then at the end of the season go into a playoff system. If EU teams got involved, you'd have prob 10-12 solid teams.

TSM
EG
CLG
RS
Crs
Rez
TGM
Unr

AAA (disbanded?)
M
Fnatic
SK
Sypher
Frag eXecutors
GAMED
myRevenge
Competo
TT
mTL


AAA didn't disband they are part of millennium now
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 23 2011 03:57 GMT
#39
On September 23 2011 10:50 Craton wrote:
That's a ridiculous comparison.

Any competent tournament should realize they're going to have players under 18 and plan accordingly. They didn't. What's so special about picking a place that actively denies players instead of picking one that would permit them? It's one of those head-slappingly obvious decisions, and yet they did the opposite.

If they picked a date that conflicted with another major tournament (say, MLG), then it would indeed by IGN's fault because of a failure to plan for obvious problems. Age restrictions are an obvious problem.

I don't get how you can plan a tournament and think "should I pick a venue with an age restriction or with no age restriction" and choose the first.

Or you can go with:

Do I want to set myself up with a venue that will create a spectacle and draw lots of attention to what I am doing? Or do I want to pidgeonhole myself into what everyone else has already done?

Im willing to trade a handful of competitors if it means that the ones who actually can compete are on a bigger stage with more eyeballs.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 05:16:02
September 23 2011 05:03 GMT
#40
Ah yes, lets have all these people maybe see this game with substandard players... When you're trying to sell something to a new audience/market, you want the very best of the best to impress them. A very apt example is that of xPeke and fnatic and how their play was night and day between having a sub and having him.

You're operating on the tremendous assumption that you couldn't get this "spectacle" elsewhere and that a bunch of people who are there to gamble are going to want to instead watch video games, somehow drastically increasing the viewership they'd get elsewhere.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 23 2011 05:12 GMT
#41
Yango's logic is a perfectly reasonable explanation for this 18+ situation. I'm sure IPL won't make this an issue next time around.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 23 2011 05:29 GMT
#42
I'm unsure how it took until Yango's post for that to be pointed out. IPL3 has been in production for a lot longer than LoL has been involved. They decided with not much notice they wanted an LoL tourney and have clearly done the best they can to provide that. With LoL now on their 'games we play' list they will almost certainly make the <18 consideration in the future.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 23 2011 06:17 GMT
#43
No they wont. There are sc2 players who also dont qualify. Pokebunny for one. The ability to trade a few competitors is worth the ability to legitimize an event by holding it in atlantic city.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 23 2011 06:28 GMT
#44
"Consideration" means they will think about whether the players that will be excluded make it worth/not worth having an event. There are some big name under 18 sc2 players(a ton of the Koreans, Stephano), so IPL may very well encounter a tourney they organize that they wish to not exclude that age group from.

Or maybe they will 'consider' it and decide like you have that it's worth it to be in Atlantic City and not care about a few lost competitors.
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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 21:54:48
September 23 2011 20:30 GMT
#45
There is a new promotional video featuring League of Legends and StarCraft 2 for IPL 3!



As for the age limit discussion, some users were right in that we knew there could be problems with certain players, but other users are also correct that League of Legends was not originally accommodated for in our beginning plans. Despite the lack of certain players (which will of course be accommodated for if there are future events), we are still very excited about this tournament and hope that you will all enjoy watching these teams clash. If anything, the use of substitute players is at least stimulating discussion. Perhaps if a substitute does well and impresses at IPL 3, the player will gain new fans or respect as well. There are many ways to look at the situation. =)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
September 23 2011 20:43 GMT
#46
Unlikely. Substitute players will most probably come from the teams that are already known, but weren't invited.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 28 2011 21:48 GMT
#47
On September 24 2011 05:43 Craton wrote:
Unlikely. Substitute players will most probably come from the teams that are already known, but weren't invited.

Eh, LoCi is known among us at TL, and has a small following on his stream, but I bet if RS does well he'll find himself with a lot more fans. Not having Voyboy is going to mess up their style, though. LoCi doesn't exactly fill the exact same role/playstyle on a team as Voyboy. Their scrims last night got messed up by RL issues, too
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 28 2011 23:49 GMT
#48
I WANNA SEE LOCI PLAY :D
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
October 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#49
lol both teams swapped AP / AD carries.
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