EPTAs if it was that hard to remember the 5 dudes that play her.
[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 11
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
As if it was that hard to remember the 5 dudes that play her. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 15 2011 01:45 spacemonkey4eve wrote: "As we enter Preseason Two, we will be performing a graduated reset of the League of Legends ladder based on player performance in Ladder Season One. The vast majority of players (97%) will have their Elo reset to between 1100 and 1300 rating, with top and bottom performers falling anywhere between 906 and 1490 rating. Ladder gains made during Preseason Two will carry over into Season Two once it begins." I'm guessing we're good to start laddering tonight lol that's dumb, seems that they named it preseason just because they wanted no delay between seasons but failed to deliver all the fun stuff in time (official s2 start has to have something epic afterall), in other words s2 already started, but unofficially -.- | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:09 gtrsrs wrote: ... maybe, but you don't ONLY use E. seeing as Q has negligible cooldown you use that to return HP >__________> honestly vlad gonna be real strong right now >just start with your standard MS quints + boots + 21 util start so that you have the speed to run in, Q, and run out in lane >use Q to primarily grab last hits and maintain HP, unless your opponent really oversteps >play passively til 5 or 6 >crank up the harass at 7 >get your rylai's >force everyone out of lane or force enemy jungler to gank you >looool, vlad can't be ganked, press W >go to other lanes, if you land a single Q they will not get away from you >deathcap quickly because vlad farms like a motherfucker >a single R that hits 3+ people on the other team = you win the game Your post suggests you may have not played Vladimir extensively or you haven't played against him recently. Assuming you're in mid, you're going to be pushed out by aggressive play which you can't defend against. What ends up happening is that you get zoned because you can't trade effectively against who is harassing you, even if you maximize on AP runes and quints. Also for ">get your rylais", you realize Rylai's does cost 3100 gold, getting that amount before level 9 is pretty impossible for Vladimir, let alone that you don't have a good way to sustain yourself without WotA or Revolver+Spirit Visage. What you're posing in your post is a situation where Vladimir gets free farm for gets something like 3-4 early kills, which is not a realistic situation. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:03 ptrpb wrote: Not quite. You need Spirit Visage + Revolver or WotA to actually get even returns on Tides of Blood. If you have only a revolver you're going to find that you'll still be running low on health if you want to make full use of ToB. To get "even returns" on Tides of Blood? God forbid a spell with a health cost actually costs you some health. You just abuse your Q to free farm waves because you heal more with Revolver + Q than your opponent is reasonably going to be able to deal in damage. EDIT: In solo mid, what hero is pushing you out of lane this hard? And even if they are, Vlad's only weak in lane until level 7 or so. For some reason no one seems to realize this but it's honestly not a big deal to get a little zoned for a few levels on a hero that's weak early but strong mid/late. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 15 2011 00:32 zalz wrote: No matter how much i try, no matter what build i go, i just suck horribly with carries. If i play any other type of champion going negative score is a bad thing and it rarely happens but when i go carry it's a miracle whenever i don't go 0/9. That basically goes for all auto-atack champions. Even Kayle or Teemo top makes me score terrible. I was the same way for a while because I only knew how to play Jax, Blitz, and some casters. I decided to pick up Corki when they gave him out for free a while back, and to this day he is the only carry I'm good at (I suck at all others). I think it's because he's got a super easy auto-attack animation + passive 10% trudamage for lasthitting, and otherwise plays more like a caster than other carries. When starting out learning him, I basically never auto-attacked outside of last-hitting or using sheen/triforce procs until lategame. With the recent nerf I stopped going manamune to focus more on auto-attack corki, though Treeeskimo says he still gets manamune on corki (with 21/9/0 for SoS). | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:15 ptrpb wrote: Your post suggests you may have not played Vladimir extensively or you haven't played against him recently. Assuming you're in mid, you're going to be pushed out by aggressive play which you can't defend against. What ends up happening is that you get zoned because you can't trade effectively against who is harassing you, even if you maximize on AP runes and quints. Also for ">get your rylais", you realize Rylai's does cost 3100 gold, getting that amount before level 9 is pretty impossible for Vladimir, let alone that you don't have a good way to sustain yourself without WotA or Revolver+Spirit Visage. What you're posing in your post is a situation where Vladimir gets free farm for gets something like 3-4 early kills, which is not a realistic situation. i mained vlad for months and he is in my top 5 most played still i think trust me i realize he has a weak early game hence why i said play passively, and have as high of a movespeed as you can attain so that you're safer. people don't seem to realize it's fine to sacrifice early CS when you have a "press this button to kill every creep" button like vlad's E and singed's poison. it's fine to only get a creep or two per wave if your opponent is playing that aggressively, because you'll more than make up for the lost CS in just a few levels. with vlad you'll be mid so they can't really exp deny you even if they can gold deny you. and no i'm not suggesting having rylai's by level 9 but soon after isn't unreasonable. basically vlad is a timebomb. you MUST stop him by a certain point or he explodes on you. simply NOT DYING as vlad by level 9 is winning your lane. at that point you will enter free-farm and "i kill anyone who gets near me" mode, farm your rylai's, and go even more batshit crazy on people. if you buy spirit visage and wota you are gimping yourself. revolver is viable but i'd still just rush rylai's | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Malz Annie Ori Brand Morde and many others will crush Vlad very very hard. God forbid champions dont all share the same power curve. You also forget that morde, ori AND brand all got their laning nerfed. And the fact that pre 6, annie loses to every single one of those champions as well, just like vlad wins post 7. | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:26 Two_DoWn wrote: And when is the last time you let an annie walk up to you and qw you? Movespeed advantage from MS quints vs. someone who doesn't have them, I assume. And Ori is going to be doing that a lot more this patch anyway, seeing as her attack range is now abysmal. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Two_DoWn
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United States17077 Posts
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Ryuu314
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On September 15 2011 02:32 HazMat wrote: Dunno how Vlad will go from one of the worst AP to one of the best because of 1 change to an item that isn't even that amazing on him. Im not arguing he is going to be the best. Im just arguing that he isnt gonna suck as hard anymore (what buffs tend to do). | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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