EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 228
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
On September 14 2011 04:45 Mogwai wrote: Where's the both option? did you know that games can be lost by more than 1 person!? NO! There must always be a scapegoat. ELO hell dicates that everyone is awesome except for that noob that keeps people stuck in ELO hell. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On September 14 2011 04:49 Mogwai wrote: I voted the ashe. I assumed the game was close enough that she wasn't feeding. Which means that if she build anything useful, you might've won, but instead she literally built the most useless stat in the game on Ashe. Well, the Ashe was 4-8, so not exactly stellar performance. But I get your reasoning. + Show Spoiler [reposting poll for exposure] + On September 14 2011 04:51 Aurdon wrote: NO! There must always be a scapegoat. ELO hell dicates that everyone is awesome except for that noob that keeps people stuck in ELO hell. It's not about naming a scapegoat per se, I'd just like to see what people think on the matter. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 14 2011 04:57 JackDino wrote: Depends on how much AP Ashe had and if she had a lichbane huehue. It actually really doesn't... | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On September 14 2011 04:59 MoonBear wrote: With no context provided and no assists provided either, I am aligned to agree with what the others have said regarding AP Ashe. However, this ignores the possibility that Nidalee was intentionally feeding (Zeals+Mobility Boots) and assumes that she was a reasonable amount of assists. Basically what was already iterated here. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Why does saying 'if Ashe didn't build AP' have any more weight? | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 14 2011 04:51 Aurdon wrote: NO! There must always be a scapegoat. ELO hell dicates that everyone is awesome except for that noob that keeps people stuck in ELO hell. The scapegoat is always a jungler tho | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Even if you are dying a lot at least you are providing some damage sponging. Nidalee dying a lot indicates bad play but at least she was trying and I assume provided a legitimate target for the enemy team to focus. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 14 2011 05:10 WaveofShadow wrote: You can just as easily say that if Nid didn't feed she could have done better....it could have been 5 or 6 of those 11 deaths that fed the enemy team enough to let them win. Why does saying 'if Ashe didn't build AP' have any more weight? uhhhh well, yea, sure, she would've done better without dying so much, but chances are she didn't make a conscious choice to die 11 times. Ashe literally chose to flush gold down the toilet. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
Rarely is a game completely won or lost by a single person; usually it has to do with multiple people screwing up. People like to blame the "feeder" because it's the most obvious, but if that person is feeding because of constant 3-4 man ganks and you aren't taking free dragons/towers during that, you're just as much at fault. The same goes for getting caught hurpdurping in their jungle or trying to push 3v5. (I don't care if you're 100-1, if you got caught in their jungle and died, thereby giving them free baron/whatever, which they use to win the game, you're a primary reason for the loss.) P.S. I voted that Nikon was the reason for the loss for having a bad poll. | ||
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
On September 14 2011 05:10 Nikon wrote: Ashe had 13 assists, Nidale 11. Nidalee wasn't feeding on purpose. So ashe ran away from every fight but she shot arrows from across the map and hit targets that were already going to die and really didn't aid the team at all? You can get assists from anywhere on the map, refuse to teamfight, and basically gimp your team completely. Nidalee could have been trying to split push and farm most of the game like most people play nidalee. Then the other players on the team keep feeding the game so hard that even though nidalee was doing decent she couldn't do anything in the late game because the team had fed so hard. Now when the other team started doing barons and seiging nidalee tried to defend, but the other team was so far ahead no matter how hard she tried she kept dying. Meanwhile ashe would shoot one OP AP Arrow into the fight and then run away. She didn't help the team fight or defend at all but to make sure she kept her deaths real low and her ratio real good she ran, ran, ran and kept leaving her team to die. She did make sure to shoot a crystal arrow in to get an assist should the other team get a death somehow I could come up with dozens of bullshit scenarios depicting either ashe or nid as the hero or the goat. Your lack of info is bullshit and time wasting. | ||
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
It's not like blaming the "right" person is going to get you some extra Elo or anything. | ||
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