I like lvl 3 gank (blue>wolves>wraiths) but I really hate level 2 gank. Bandage at level 2 really slows down your jungle (more damage taken + less damage dealt) and you aren't usually going to get a kill with it. Amumu being so blue dependent early [this means everyone knows your route] + weak to counter jungling is what's really pushing him down a notch below junglers like gp/noct/ls. His ult, at least, lets you make up for it later on, but he's really easy to counter early.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

September 13 2011 23:22 GMT

#4584

On September 14 2011 07:02 Kenpachi wrote:

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grow balls and steal theirs!
(idk i dont jungle often)

That is such an ambiguous question. Where did you start? Where did they start? There's a lot more to jungling than following a set path.

rredtooth

5460 Posts

September 13 2011 23:34 GMT

#4585

NEEDS MORE ATTENTION

Misder

United States1557 Posts

September 14 2011 00:03 GMT

#4586

I thought the OXICLEAN fan club was old lol.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

September 14 2011 00:12 GMT

#4587

He bumped it for its one year anniversary...

Brambled

United States750 Posts

September 14 2011 00:27 GMT

#4588

So are we going to get patch notes tomorrow after patch deployed?

crate

United States2474 Posts

September 14 2011 00:33 GMT

#4589

Well the patch preview is up.

Nikon

Bulgaria5710 Posts

September 14 2011 00:39 GMT

#4590

"We didn't want to turn Taric from a support character into a burst caster."

But butchering his heal last patch did just that ?_? Granted, he's an AP nuker with a heal, but still...

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 14 2011 00:46 GMT

#4591

Wow, I figured we'd get a Taric ult that's actually interesting. Something like Janna ulti or Alistar ulti that significantly affects how you play with/against him.

A plain nuke that's also a team steroid is not interesting.

Craton

United States17250 Posts

September 14 2011 00:51 GMT

#4592

I think they missed the mark with Taric. The Orianna range change is good, but the real offender has always been the amount of damage on the ult. I dunno if the Morde change will amount to much. Riot needs stop trying to make Shen a goddamned carry.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

September 14 2011 00:52 GMT

#4593

Chauster/Jiji/Saint have all been duoing on a smurf with elementz to help him get real plat lol. Surprised Riot hasn't the banned the account yet.

LaNague

Germany9118 Posts

September 14 2011 00:58 GMT

#4594

since when is oriannas problem her strong laning? wtf ^^

Senx

Sweden5901 Posts

September 14 2011 01:00 GMT

#4595

On September 14 2011 09:58 LaNague wrote:
since when is oriannas problem her strong laning? wtf ^^

her harass in lane is pretty ridicilous, so they nerfed her range.. makes sense to me.

red_

United States8474 Posts

September 14 2011 01:03 GMT

#4596

On September 14 2011 09:52 HazMat wrote:
Chauster/Jiji/Saint have all been duoing on a smurf with elementz to help him get real plat lol. Surprised Riot hasn't the banned the account yet.

Hotshot fanboy outrage would just get it unbanned obviously.

Qualm

721 Posts

September 14 2011 01:03 GMT

#4597

On September 14 2011 09:58 LaNague wrote:
since when is oriannas problem her strong laning? wtf ^^

Ori is OP at everything, gotta nerf something I guess lol XD

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

September 14 2011 01:04 GMT

#4598

I would appreciate it, if they could stop teasing us and just put up the patch notes. Probably they will put them up, when the servers are down, so the ppl will have something to do during that time.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

September 14 2011 01:10 GMT

#4599

http://clgaming.net/live/725-chaox
Chaox streaming a lesson~