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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 12:02:02
May 25 2011 11:50 GMT
#15461
I'm having some troubles with how Vayne's early game laning plays out. Is there any way that I can try and harass people that outrange me effectively or am I stuck waiting till they try to pass the minion line?

What I mean is that if I try to poke someone, I might as well commit to killing him since he can return fire while I'm retreating. Them moving forward just gives me more space to chase them down.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 25 2011 12:01 GMT
#15462
On May 25 2011 19:41 Shikyo wrote:
Soo I'm looking for a fun jungler to play that's strong early and can dominate somewhat. Now, I know Nunu is a good choice, but how would Trundle be, for instance? Is he viable at all elos?

dsc loves his noc
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#15463
On May 25 2011 20:50 Nikon wrote:
I'm having some troubles with how Vayne's early game laning plays out. Is there any way that I can try and harass people that outrange me effectively or am I stuck waiting till they try to pass the minion line?

What I mean is that if I try to poke someone, I might as well commit to killing him since he can return fire while I'm retreating. Them moving forward just gives me more space to chase them down.

The most hilarious thing is the Phreak "if you can get in range to autoattack and then Q and do 2 more attacks you harrass them a great deal and they can't do anything about it" when if you try to do it you pull minion aggro and anyone with a nuke is going to completely outharrass you. -.-

I'd suggest you to just attack -> Q E as your harrass, it's the safest thing she has
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#15464
On May 25 2011 21:01 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 19:41 Shikyo wrote:
Soo I'm looking for a fun jungler to play that's strong early and can dominate somewhat. Now, I know Nunu is a good choice, but how would Trundle be, for instance? Is he viable at all elos?

dsc loves his noc

too bad he's dead
:)
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#15465
I am really loving this multiple rune pages thing. No longer will I need to go 0-20-0 on every champion.

Also, AP Shen is not a lag-proof build

(Lag-Proof builds are character/item builds you can do even in very laggy situations)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#15466
On May 25 2011 21:30 57 Corvette wrote:
I am really loving this multiple rune pages thing. No longer will I need to go 0-20-0 on every champion.

Also, AP Shen is not a lag-proof build

(Lag-Proof builds are character/item builds you can do even in very laggy situations)

you mean "sona"
:)
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 12:54:28
May 25 2011 12:53 GMT
#15467
No, I mean Shen. I went AP Shen.

Tanky Ninja with 1.0AP Ratio on his ultimate and .5 on his Vorpal Blade.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 25 2011 12:56 GMT
#15468
i mean sona is ez to play wiht lag
they do it in tourneys when one of their players is lagging, they just ahve them play sona l0l0l
i guess AP shen could work in lag too, all u have to do is q click
:)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2011 13:05 GMT
#15469
No hes saying its not lag-proof. Something that is lagproof for instance is mordekaiser
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
May 25 2011 13:12 GMT
#15470
On May 25 2011 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
No hes saying its not lag-proof. Something that is lagproof for instance is mordekaiser


I heard you like ghost-ignite
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 25 2011 13:21 GMT
#15471
Hurray for rapidly changing subjects...

Sunday Night I was playing Xin in soloqueue on TT.

Game starts up, with two dipshits on my team and two dipshits on the opponent team plus a Yi. Anyways, fast forward 30ish mins, Teamfight happens top lane near the opponent's destroyed tower. My 2 teammates die, his 2 teammates die, i run with ghostblade and he chases me with his ult. I get into the bushes near where my team's top outer tower would be, and I notice my abilities are off CD. I stop in the bush and wait for Yi to enter to throw my 3 abilities at him. We kept hitting eachother, and it was really close, but I survived with something like 30 Hp.

If it wasn't for my passive and Thornmail, I would have been dead easily.

For like 2 mins after this happened, I still didn't know how I managed to kill Yi from half health when I was at about 2/5ths.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 25 2011 13:53 GMT
#15472
On May 25 2011 15:52 petered wrote:
So I was just going through the item stats on tiamat, and it doesn't seem as useless as people make it out to be. Even if you completely ignore the worthless splash effect, it seems a very cost effective source of damage and mana+health per 5.

Maybe a better player can comment, but I'm guessing the issue is that ranged carries don't want to delay their big items like IE and such. Also rushing the item would leave you pretty squishy if you are a tanky dps champ. So maybe it is a bit clumsy, but stat wise it looks pretty efficient.

I tried rushing a tiamat (in normals only) on urgot, nasus, and jax and it worked out pretty well for all three. the nasus one was just a troll until I was surprised by how well it worked and decided to try it on other champs as well. Jax is pretty hilarious with a tiamat since I take both armor pen and magic pen masteries on him, so with just one tiamat you clear a creep wave ridiculously fast.

I have a hard time justifying Tiamat over Philo + BF. Philo closes the cost gap in 13 minutes (a good amount of which will have passed by the time you can even finish Tiamat), gives more of the regen stats, and both Philo and BF build into good items later on.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 25 2011 14:41 GMT
#15473
Not exactly LoL related, but worth sharing:

Chilean extreme sports
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
May 25 2011 15:09 GMT
#15474
Holy Shit.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 25 2011 15:19 GMT
#15475
At 0:37 Warwick tried to gank him lololol!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 25 2011 15:37 GMT
#15476
New mastery pages are pretty awesome, plus 10 of them for free.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 25 2011 15:39 GMT
#15477
The interface is new and confusing to me because I'm a cranky old man, and I never cared in the first place -_-.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 25 2011 15:39 GMT
#15478
I cant even count the number of times I would have died trying to do that.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 25 2011 15:40 GMT
#15479
On May 26 2011 00:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
I cant even count the number of times I would have died trying to do that.

probably just once. it's kinda hard to die more after that first time.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 25 2011 15:41 GMT
#15480
On May 26 2011 00:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
I cant even count the number of times I would have died trying to do that.


I was thinking the same thing lol.
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