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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 04 2011 23:11 GMT
#8561
20 more movespeed that is also further increased by %MSpd.

20-25 MSpd can EASILY make the difference between escape and death.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 23:19:03
March 04 2011 23:17 GMT
#8562
On March 05 2011 08:11 spinesheath wrote:
20 more movespeed that is also further increased by %MSpd.

20-25 MSpd can EASILY make the difference between escape and death.

Which is absolutely useless regardless of the situation, as it is outshined by zerks in an offensive situation (ashe) and by mercs in a defensive situation. Ghost, flash and other ms buffs make boots 3 a burden on the character who is forced to steer away from boots that provide actually useful stats.

MS quints are what you get if you need to chase ppl down in the early-midgame, such as on udyr.

Who wants swifties anyways tho? Even if your character doesn't use zerks and you don't need mercs you have cdr and mp boots that will outshine them.
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
March 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#8563
i think bos are good early then switch later when you need defenses/offenses
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#8564
On March 05 2011 08:17 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 08:11 spinesheath wrote:
20 more movespeed that is also further increased by %MSpd.

20-25 MSpd can EASILY make the difference between escape and death.

Which is absolutely useless regardless of the situation, as it is outshined by zerks in an offensive situation (ashe) and by mercs in a defensive situation. Ghost, flash and other ms buffs make boots 3 a burden on the character who is forced to steer away from boots that provide actually useful stats.

MS quints are what you get if you need to chase ppl down in the early-midgame, such as on udyr.

Who wants swifties anyways tho? Even if your character doesn't use zerks and you don't need mercs you have cdr and mp boots that will outshine them.

Mercs don't save you if you die as soon as someone touches you. Swifites, barely escaped from that rupture? Ow shit the guy with Mercs didnt make it. Akali just barely out of range for her R? Ow shit the guy with Mercs is too close.
There are PLENTY of situations where Swifties > Merc for survival, especially on long range champs.
Swifties also have offensive qualities on champs that want to squeeze skillshots past the tank line because you just get into a better position faster.
They are a great chasing tool on some champs, especially those who continuously attack while chasing. Unlike Mobilities you get the higher movespeed even while in combat.
Ghost and other MSpd buffs have a greater effect if you have Swifties instead of some other T2 boots.

I like Swifties on Ashe very much. They go perfectly with my Volley spam. I also like them on Poppy because it allows me to get that E off in a good spot (and I also run MSpd quints and masteries, which further amplifies the effect). Other than those 2 I don't think I use them very much. I guess if I played Singed I would get them at times.

They might be the "worst" boots in the game under whatever definition, but they certainly have their place. I sure wouldn't mind them being a bit cheaper though :p
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 04 2011 23:51 GMT
#8565
I buy swifties more often than zerkers (there are so many items that give ASPD that i don't see the point of buying zerkers, unless for like ... early game where you don't get any other aspd items?) or ninja tabi (which i buy for jax and only jax)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 04 2011 23:54 GMT
#8566
Oh lol Ninja Tabi. I even forgot that those exist. There is no way for Swifties to be worse than Tabi.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#8567
i get swifties on some casters, i like them on malz and zilean specifically, its a throwup whether i want mercs vs swifties on swain tho, other than that, the only other caster i play is kass, and lets be honest, kass doesnt really need swifties
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
March 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#8568
tabi good if only ad & no cc/ap rofl
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 00:18:12
March 05 2011 00:17 GMT
#8569
streaming normals
http://www.own3d.tv/live/7854

join the bear train

real jungle jax
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 05 2011 00:52 GMT
#8570
Games with roamers are so much better to watch than games without.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 01:00:09
March 05 2011 00:59 GMT
#8571
On March 05 2011 08:17 r33k wrote:
Who wants swifties anyways tho? Even if your character doesn't use zerks and you don't need mercs you have cdr and mp boots that will outshine them.

Jiji and Manyreason go swifties on Anivia IIRC.

On March 05 2011 09:03 barbsq wrote:
i get swifties on some casters, i like them on malz and zilean specifically, its a throwup whether i want mercs vs swifties on swain tho, other than that, the only other caster i play is kass, and lets be honest, kass doesnt really need swifties

Why does Zilean need swifties? CDR boots gives you E more often while also scaling into everything else.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#8572
yeah anivia was one i forgot, shes one thats just so fucking slow that she needs the ms

i get it only sometimes on zil, but mostly because i cant tell you how many times ive been running towards a teammate to ult them, only to be barely out of range. mybe im just lucky/crazy, but i feel like when i run swifties that happens less often
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#8573
swifties only allowed on olaf and janna
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#8574
On anivia too. I disagree on Janna.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
March 05 2011 02:00 GMT
#8575
boots of swiftness? never heard of them.

havent bought them once and ive played since beta. even as a noob i scoffed at them
Brees on in
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
March 05 2011 02:28 GMT
#8576
Blasphemy!

Singed BOS #1
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 05 2011 02:44 GMT
#8577
janna is mercs imo, 100%, if i even get boots 2

anyways, streaming trollhouses, join the bear train @ www.own3d.tv/live/7854

come join the funss
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 05 2011 03:11 GMT
#8578
what is this... i dont even....

[image loading]


also not all women
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 05 2011 03:16 GMT
#8579
I got Kat and akali. No clue on the rest.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 05 2011 03:19 GMT
#8580
On March 05 2011 12:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
I got Kat and akali. No clue on the rest.


on the top its akali, morgana, shaco, leblanc?, nidalee

bottom is poppy and tristana
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