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iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
July 31 2009 06:13 GMT
#121
The goal of this test is to get exactly 9 out of 10 right. 10 shows you are underconfident in your abilities or know too much trivia for your own good, less than 9 means you are too confident in yourself. This is just a pride thing.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
July 31 2009 07:42 GMT
#122
thanks for sharing a well-known social psychology test so people start flaming
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
July 31 2009 09:33 GMT
#123
On July 31 2009 15:13 iamke55 wrote:
The goal of this test is to get exactly 9 out of 10 right. 10 shows you are underconfident in your abilities or know too much trivia for your own good, less than 9 means you are too confident in yourself. This is just a pride thing.

Actually this is not entirely true, because even if you are somehow able to quantify exactly what '90% confidence' means into an estimate for lower and upper bounds, there's still a probability that you won't get 9 out of 10, even if your confidence-interval is exactly correct.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
July 31 2009 10:39 GMT
#124
On July 31 2009 18:33 Mista_Masta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 15:13 iamke55 wrote:
The goal of this test is to get exactly 9 out of 10 right. 10 shows you are underconfident in your abilities or know too much trivia for your own good, less than 9 means you are too confident in yourself. This is just a pride thing.

Actually this is not entirely true, because even if you are somehow able to quantify exactly what '90% confidence' means into an estimate for lower and upper bounds, there's still a probability that you won't get 9 out of 10, even if your confidence-interval is exactly correct.


You're right, the results of 10 such questions doesn't tell much unless someone got a significant number of questions wrong. There's no margin of error in this experiment at all when using 90% as 9 out of 10 instead of 900 out of 1000.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Burre
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden154 Posts
July 31 2009 10:50 GMT
#125
There are actually 12 countries in OPEC ever since Indonesia left in 2008. So the guy who said he was 100% sure there were 13 is fooling himself.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
July 31 2009 12:20 GMT
#126
I don't even understand the interval thing.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
July 31 2009 12:31 GMT
#127
i dont get what im supposed to do? Can someone simplify the english a bit or give an example?
The artist formerly known as Starparty
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19140 Posts
July 31 2009 12:32 GMT
#128
Just the Boeing owned me

Long live NG and Discovery channels.
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Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
July 31 2009 19:22 GMT
#129
Haha I think I learned the most about Moltke from this thread. I like how he stopped posting in it! Good decision.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
July 31 2009 19:31 GMT
#130
Oh yeah, 8 right. My intervals for the London to Tokyo distance just made it as well haha. How is a Boeing so heavy though, I didn't realize how heavy they can be....that and someone should give those elephants an award for carrying babies for that fucking long.
Eniram
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
August 01 2009 02:12 GMT
#131
On August 01 2009 04:31 Masamune wrote:
Oh yeah, 8 right. My intervals for the London to Tokyo distance just made it as well haha. How is a Boeing so heavy though, I didn't realize how heavy they can be....that and someone should give those elephants an award for carrying babies for that fucking long.

Yeah... Lets give elephants awards...
You can like take a newb to like water, but you cant like make a newb drink. Ya know? - Jeremy
Final_Judicator
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 18:21:33
August 01 2009 18:19 GMT
#132
On July 31 2009 16:42 intotherainx wrote:
thanks for sharing a well-known social psychology test so people stop flaming


Fixed.

And it should really be done in metric system. Seriously.

Regards,
Final_Judicator
Johnny B
Profile Joined April 2009
United States76 Posts
August 01 2009 19:34 GMT
#133
Hey azndsh, would you please add this (which I posted on page 3) to the OP please?
+ Show Spoiler [Metric Answers] +
1.) 39 Years
2.) 6,738 km
3.) 13 Countries
4.) 39 Books
5.) 3,476 km
6.) 180,000 kg
7.) 1756
8.) 645 Days
9.) 9,590 km
10.) 11,033 m


Now nobody has to convert to English anymore!
+ Show Spoiler +
And we can all quit whining!


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On July 31 2009 00:55 nK)Duke wrote:
make this in the metric system and this test proves nothing but useless knowledge

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On July 31 2009 03:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
And i had problems with counting in pounds, feets and miles, cuz around here everybody always uses kg, m, km and so on

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On July 31 2009 04:16 bN` wrote:
Uh, reading is tech. I just looked at the questions and went wtf this is really hard. After figuring it out I got 7/10 inside the margin. Missed 6. 9. 2.. Metric system ftw :>

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On July 31 2009 06:33 Mista_Masta wrote:
By the way, I was slightly annoyed that you asked for non-metric estimates, as that meant I had to convert my estimates to non-metric. Since I'm too lazy to get a calculator, this may have further influenced my amount of wrong estimates.

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On August 02 2009 03:19 Final_Judicator wrote:
And it should really be done in metric system. Seriously.

Regards,
Final_Judicator
My dad can beat your dad in StarCraft.
Final_Judicator
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany85 Posts
August 01 2009 20:02 GMT
#134
Finally
Nice one, Johnny B.

Regards,
Final_Judicator
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 21:06:31
August 01 2009 21:04 GMT
#135
If anyone got more than like 4 right without cheating that is absurd. Thos questions are so random. Might as well be asking what color shirt I am wearing. I would be guessing for every answer and there for be totally unconfident in my answers (why does FF think that is not a word?)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
August 01 2009 21:38 GMT
#136
if anything, this thread has proved that people are overconfident in their reading comprehension skills and/or ability to understand social experiments. but after all this is the internet, so I guess this is anything but surprising.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 01 2009 21:58 GMT
#137
On August 02 2009 06:38 azndsh wrote:
if anything, this thread has proved that people are overconfident in their reading comprehension skills and/or ability to understand social experiments. but after all this is the internet, so I guess this is anything but surprising.
And when you came to that conclusion your own overconfidence blinded you from considering that maybe, just maybe... It is you who cannot understand how inefficient this experiment is for measuring confidence, and not the ones saying it's wrong.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 01 2009 22:02 GMT
#138
On August 02 2009 06:38 azndsh wrote:
if anything, this thread has proved that people are overconfident in their reading comprehension skills and/or ability to understand social experiments. but after all this is the internet, so I guess this is anything but surprising.

Thank god you wrote it for yourself and not them, or it might need to be revised.

It is a well-known fact in that people tend to think that they know more than they really do.

LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
August 01 2009 22:04 GMT
#139
On August 02 2009 06:58 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 06:38 azndsh wrote:
if anything, this thread has proved that people are overconfident in their reading comprehension skills and/or ability to understand social experiments. but after all this is the internet, so I guess this is anything but surprising.
And when you came to that conclusion your own overconfidence blinded you from considering that maybe, just maybe... It is you who cannot understand how inefficient this experiment is for measuring confidence, and not the ones saying it's wrong.

on the contrary... people not being able to read correctly and this experiment being inefficient can both be true at the same time. maybe, just maybe... I do understand the inadequacies of asking people online to follow directions and evaluating themselves, but was nevertheless a little disappointed by how badly people misunderstood it and the number of smartass comments that followed.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 01 2009 22:09 GMT
#140
I'm talking about the many posts in this thread who did read and understand it and even then find it inefficient. Even ignoring miscommunication, this test cannot measure confidence. Too many variables are missing.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
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