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Manit0u
Poland17183 Posts
Damn, I'm a terrible, terrible person. (ecology sucks!) | ||
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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
On June 26 2009 17:11 HuskyTheHusky wrote: I got about half way through and couldnt finish it. One of the good things about being human is having the ability to take care of others. He says we are better than animals but enforces stooping to their level by eating/killing them. How is it being better than them if you encourage doing exactly what they do? I'm not a vegetarian or anything, I just think this guys whole angle is very confusing. Edit: I just noticed this video has very few views and not a high rating, so I guess there is still hope  He certainly doesn't present a philosophic account of human rights vs animal rights. He even envokes moral claims (ie., "Intrinsic value") that animal rights advocates use! I still don't buy the concept animal rights and that is part of what makes -some- parts of the video funny. | ||
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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
On June 26 2009 20:31 Manit0u wrote: What an idiots... I freaking hate everything that's greenpeace'ish in nature. And I certainly do not care the slightest bit about whales... Damn, I'm a terrible, terrible person. (ecology sucks!) Why do you say you are so terrible? I don't get it! | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19129 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On June 26 2009 16:47 Jonoman92 wrote: Wow I ended up watching that whole thing. It was really good, thanks for posting it. You're both complete idiots if you enjoyed even a moment of that garbage. That's Brad Stine, perhaps the least talented comedian around. He endlessly complains about how Christians are persecuted in the United States, even though they're the massive majority. He seems to think being a conservative Christian is what has kept him from fame, when in fact it's simply that the liberal atheists are far more clever and funny. This entire video is him arguing against a straw man. Very few people claim that animals are equal to humans and deserve to be treated as such. That view is of a tiny, insignificant minority. However, there are many who believe we should treat animals with kindness instead of viewing them as entities solely for our use. He speaks of how a lion or a whale would devour a human if given the chance, he somehow thinks that's an actual argument for how we should treat them. Shouldn't we be held to a slightly higher standard than that? I don't derive my sense of justice and morality from lions, but clearly this fool does. It's comical how he goes on and on about how much more logical and intelligent we are than animals but fails to see that we should think differently for that very reason. There's another video of this ignorant moron exhibiting his stupidity. Firstly, he seems to take great pride from the fact that "we" invented basketball. "We" didn't, a Canadian did while in the United States. Then he falsely claims that the world plays American football, which couldn't be less true. No other country accepted American football, it has been a complete disaster internationally. The NFL pumped a large sum of money into the development of the sport in Europe, Europe said "No thanks, we'll keep our football". He acts as if soccer has been a failure when it's the most massively popular sport of all time. Go to almost any country and football will be played there by everyone, you'll be lucky if you even see an American football. Like any far right wing fool, he attacks France with ridiculous cliches. He panders to hicks, no one should take him seriously. You should never quote this person on any issue, especially animal rights. If you want to see a comedian with sharp, insightful commentary then watch Bill Hicks, George Carlin or Bill Maher. Not this nobody. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10180 Posts
 I think the show is fairly entertaining. A couple things annoy me: 1) The fat ass captain. I remember one time they lost a bunch of people in the middle of the night because they decided to go "harassing" and loss communications and had to decide whether they should set up a search and rescue or pursue the whalers. The communications officer almost started a mutiny against the first mate saying "This is ridiculous, we are going to find our men." Someone tries to go wake up the fat slob but he is sleeping and he was literally like "go away im sleeping." 2) They're terrible at what they do and they risk human lives to do it. These peopel are just awful. Every single episode is the same. They send some people in a small boat to throw stink bombs at the Japanese whalers. The boat goes way off course, and loses communications. They spend the rest of the episode worrying about whether the people are dead or what the heck happened to them. Eventually the people come back and they were like "What happened? We were calling you on the radio non-stop and nobody responded." And they were like "we got lost and it was too loud to use the radio" or some nonsense like that. They literally send people out in terrible weather conditions on a tiny little boat in the middle of the ocean for the hope of throwing a stink bomb onto a giant Japanese whaling ship. Yeah, that'll show them! 3) Their funding could be sent to better causes. The Red Hot chili peppers are huge supporters of these guys. It literally costs hundreds of thousands of dollars for fuel, ship maintenance, supplies, just so these morons could throw stink bombs at people. Meanwhile people in other parts of the world starve to death. Anybody that thinks that this is a "worthwhile cause" is a moron. | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
Nice FLCL reference by the way. | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
cool show imo, good cause as well | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
http://www.seashepherd.org/support-us/wishlist-in-kind.html No wonder their ship the Steve Irwin seems to be barely holding up. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
We just held a fund raiser for them last winter, and there will be another event coming up soon as well. | ||
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Hypnotikdel
United States333 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Sea Shepherd member being interrogated after witnessing the killing of seals. Which apparently is a crime in Canada? | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On June 28 2009 01:37 Hypnotikdel wrote: ok. now let's replace all references of whale hunting with drug dealing.I completely disagree with this show, Sure i think that Whales shouldn't be hunted and ect but ruining other peoples careers and potentially endangering their lives just because of their profession isn't called for. If they really wanted to stop this hunting there are many other ways to go about it logically. On June 28 2009 01:37 Hypnotikdel wrote: stupid DEA and their stupid raids.I completely disagree with the prosecution of drug dealers, Sure i think that cocaine shouldn't be dealt and ect but ruining drug dealers' careers and potentially endangering their lives just because of their profession isn't called for. If they really wanted to stop this drug dealing there are many other ways to go about it logically. btw i especially love the whole "ruining other peoples careers" part. it was logically sound. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27118 Posts
On June 30 2009 13:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Nobody talks everybody walks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4PPjladbsg Sea Shepherd member being interrogated after witnessing the killing of seals. Which apparently is a crime in Canada? Trying to ram coast guard boats is a crime. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2008/04/05/charges-ship.html Half a mile is nothing on the ocean. They knew the rules before they got to the hunt, and disobeyed them anyway. They got what they deserved. Another gem from the founder: Watson was responding to the deaths of three sealers, who died Saturday when their trawler capsized as it was being towed by an icebreaker. A fourth fisherman is believed to have died. Watson described sealers as "sadistic baby killers" and "vicious killers who are now pleading for sympathy because some of their own died while engaged in a viciously brutal activity." | ||
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Hypnotikdel
United States333 Posts
On June 30 2009 13:45 redtooth wrote: ok. now let's replace all references of whale hunting with drug dealing. stupid DEA and their stupid raids. btw i especially love the whole "ruining other peoples careers" part. it was logically sound. apples to oranges pal.. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17183 Posts
On June 27 2009 12:31 Lefnui wrote: whales on the other hand are being wiped out by humans alone. And? I don't need whales (and I'll probably never see one live). Why should I care? (this is a serious question, we've even asked such at our philosphy classes at the univ) | ||
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