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[Guide] Solving The Rubik's Cube - Page 4

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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
June 20 2009 22:18 GMT
#61
On June 21 2009 07:03 ThePhan2m wrote:
how long does it take aproximetly to be a decent cube solver? like within 30min - 1 hour


it shouldn't really ever take you that long

once you get used to how to solve it you should get under 5min even if you're really crappy
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-21 01:50:37
June 20 2009 22:21 GMT
#62
fixed a minor error in the "positioning the corners" step of beginners guide

update: fixed a stupid stupid typo that made the last step of the alyer by layer method very confusing
csfield
Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
June 20 2009 22:28 GMT
#63
On June 21 2009 07:18 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2009 07:03 ThePhan2m wrote:
how long does it take aproximetly to be a decent cube solver? like within 30min - 1 hour


it shouldn't really ever take you that long

once you get used to how to solve it you should get under 5min even if you're really crappy


He's asking how long it takes to learn.

In one day you can learn to solve it in a few minutes.
I know that I have never once considered how my TV viewing habits impact the progression of civilization. --Bibbit
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
June 21 2009 13:53 GMT
#64
i learned the cube from a polish speedcuber last summer. he used a custom version of the friedrich method....i don't know any of the algorithms other than what he taught me in a week :/ I continued learning using the friedrich method when I got home and got under 1 minute average in about 2 months. It's a very intuitive method IMO, if people have trouble with this, they might want to take a look at some alternative methods
hurka
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary8 Posts
June 21 2009 13:59 GMT
#65
On June 16 2009 01:45 Biochemist wrote:
The first method I learned was kinda unique... you solve the corners on one side first, then solve the corners on the opposite side. + Show Spoiler +
Then you usually have to solve the four remaining sides (all done at the same time), and do the edge pieces last. It's pretty slow (2-3 minutes as soon as you finish learning it), but because almost all the steps are 2-3 moves each you can learn to solve it with only ONE algorithm. Usually the last two edge pieces end up in each other's spots, and you have to do one long sequence to switch them.

I'd like to learn a more efficient method, but my cube broke and I haven't gotten around to replacing it yet!

I think I know the same method, but I haven't realized that particular alogrithm. It's efficient enough for me , and I like the simplicity of it. The user can see through the algorythms because of their shortness.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
June 21 2009 14:00 GMT
#66
On June 21 2009 07:18 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2009 07:03 ThePhan2m wrote:
how long does it take aproximetly to be a decent cube solver? like within 30min - 1 hour


it shouldn't really ever take you that long

once you get used to how to solve it you should get under 5min even if you're really crappy



5min should be easy for almost anyone. Competitive times are measured in seconds.

콩까지마
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
June 21 2009 17:21 GMT
#67
I've always wanted to learn how to solve a rubic cube so thanks for the guide. This really makes me want to go out and buy one so I can test it out.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-21 17:27:06
June 21 2009 17:26 GMT
#68
top times are separated by like tenths of seconds now

1 Tomasz Zolnowski 10.63 Poland Warsaw Open 2009
2 Yumu Tabuchi 10.83 Japan Osaka Open 2009
3 Erik Akkersdijk 11.11 Netherlands Benelux Open 2009
4 Yu Nakajima 11.28 Japan Kashiwa Open 2008
5 Andy Tsao 11.42 USA Berkeley Fall 2008
6 Edouard Chambon 11.48 France Murcia Open 2008
Harris Chan 11.48 Canada Toronto Open Winter 2009
Takumi Yoshida 11.48 Japan JRCA Kanto Summer 2009
9 Keisuke Hiraya 11.68 Japan Japan Open 2008
10 Rowe Hessler 11.70 USA Cumberland Valley Open 2009


Notice 2 things: the top 10 are separated by ~one second. Also, they're all recent records (the earliest were last year's, and only 4 of those), meaning people are still getting noticeably faster.
There isn't even a super-14 time in the top 100 (the gap between 10th and 100th is just a bit over 2 seconds)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
June 21 2009 23:52 GMT
#69
Huh?
whats this then


Also, I solved it! woo!
Graphics
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
June 21 2009 23:58 GMT
#70
This thread won myself and cube a beta key, and thus, I fucking love Rubiks cubes and 404.cube the writer. <3
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
June 22 2009 00:09 GMT
#71
Really nice and detailed guide, also congrats on the keys =)
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
June 22 2009 02:11 GMT
#72
On June 22 2009 02:26 JeeJee wrote:
top times are separated by like tenths of seconds now

1 Tomasz Zolnowski 10.63 Poland Warsaw Open 2009
2 Yumu Tabuchi 10.83 Japan Osaka Open 2009
3 Erik Akkersdijk 11.11 Netherlands Benelux Open 2009
4 Yu Nakajima 11.28 Japan Kashiwa Open 2008
5 Andy Tsao 11.42 USA Berkeley Fall 2008
6 Edouard Chambon 11.48 France Murcia Open 2008
Harris Chan 11.48 Canada Toronto Open Winter 2009
Takumi Yoshida 11.48 Japan JRCA Kanto Summer 2009
9 Keisuke Hiraya 11.68 Japan Japan Open 2008
10 Rowe Hessler 11.70 USA Cumberland Valley Open 2009


Notice 2 things: the top 10 are separated by ~one second. Also, they're all recent records (the earliest were last year's, and only 4 of those), meaning people are still getting noticeably faster.
There isn't even a super-14 time in the top 100 (the gap between 10th and 100th is just a bit over 2 seconds)


I personally don't know the answer to your question but those times may be an avg of a series of a certain number of cubes instead on an individual cube.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 04:57:10
June 22 2009 04:46 GMT
#73
yeah i linked 3/5 averages not single solves xeo.

single solves are silly. the thing that convinced me was when ron (i think, or maybe arnaud) got a 2x2x2 scramble which he noticed during preinspection could be solved in an R U R' U' trigger (or maybe R U' R'; something like that anyway), resulting in a WR time that's basically unbeatable unless you get a scramble that's just as imba. he asked for a rescramble though so that's okay.

and yeah, figures you'd link erik ^_^ he has had quite a history with lucky scrambles lol
"getting lucky isn't a crime"

edit:looking at xeo's video, that's what i'm talking about ^_^ there's a pll skip and (i think) an entirely 2gen f2l
edit2: nope nevermind found the scramble and his solution, there's a rotation i missed. still, not a standard solve
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
June 22 2009 14:13 GMT
#74
Ahhh kk =) didnt know they were averages
carry on!
Graphics
RzM
Profile Joined April 2009
United States79 Posts
June 23 2009 02:52 GMT
#75
Easily best guide.

i pvp in rl
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
June 24 2009 15:44 GMT
#76
my fastest recorded time atm is 3:20 and I first touched a cube on Saturday

I'm gonna try and see if I've gotten faster since yesterday. Its also the first day that I don't need to look at the algorithm cheatsheet I made. *brb*
Graphics
Willow
Profile Joined June 2009
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 06:35:04
June 26 2009 06:34 GMT
#77
Hmm awesome guide....but you arent the only one on TL who can solve a cube like ur OP said lol. I can solve the 7x7 www.myspace.com/bear3104
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
July 09 2009 11:43 GMT
#78
thx just bought my first cube yesterday.
and the next day i already learned the ez algoritms and can solve it without cheating in about 3 minutes.

I have however no clue how i do it. i would kinda like to know why these algoritms work. but atleast i can showoff at parties
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6122 Posts
July 09 2009 12:10 GMT
#79

Rubik Cube inventor devises new puzzle to drive us all to distraction

[image loading]

RUBIK 360

The creator of Rubik’s Cube is back with his first new puzzle for almost 20 years and early indications are that it is going to be every bit as irritating as the original.

Rubik’s 360, which goes on sale next week, features six small balls inside three interlocking spheres. The task is to lock each ball into colour-coded capsules on the outermost sphere. Professor Rubik said of his cube that it was “easy to understand the task, but hard to work out the solution”. It is just as aggravating to crack the 360



http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/games_and_puzzles/article6652748.ece
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Khyrandor
Profile Joined February 2009
Czech Republic158 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 12:31:21
July 09 2009 12:30 GMT
#80
I used to practice solving the cube... in about two months i got my fastest time 30 secs... but then i got bored of it...

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2009 08:52 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Huh?
whats this then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGjbjUPVUo

Also, I solved it! woo!


hehe... this is from my town (Pardubice), i didn't know anything like this took place here
fan of Chill, ToT)Mondragon(, ret, Jaedong, Day[9], DjWHEAT, White-Ra, Jinro, R1CH and TL and after TSL3 Ro32 Mondragon again... R.I.P. ToT
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