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[Guide] Solving The Rubik's Cube - Page 7

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CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
October 10 2011 05:26 GMT
#121
Word to this thread bump! My speed cube record isn't super awesome but is sick to me = 56 seconds :D
Micro your Macro
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 10 2011 05:33 GMT
#122
I recently got a guhong best cube purchase I've ever made. I don't speedcube anymore though, just during loadscreens sometimes. Forgot half the PLL's already
LOUD NOISES!!!
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
October 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#123
There's actually a (based on my experience) faster method then the Petrus method listed here, which is done by first solving the cross, then solving the first two layers in edge-corner pairs. The downside is that you need to learn a lot more OLLs, because the edges in the last layer aren't automatically oriented correctly. I use it when I'm just idly solving a cube when I'm watching a stream, and I usually solve it in around 30 seconds.
iMbc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States55 Posts
October 10 2011 06:00 GMT
#124
thinking about buying an Alpha V and maybe modding to a memory...can anybody tell me how the alpha V is?
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
October 10 2011 10:55 GMT
#125
On October 10 2011 15:00 iMbc wrote:
thinking about buying an Alpha V and maybe modding to a memory...can anybody tell me how the alpha V is?


Feels very cheap but is very fast.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 10 2011 13:17 GMT
#126
lol this makes me want to get back into speed cubing and try for sub 18s.
too bad i forgot most of my OLL so i would have to go back and find all of my preferred algs. i picked and chose them from different sites so its not like i can just go back >_<. at least i still have like 3 of my good speed cubes.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 10 2011 13:50 GMT
#127
The Petrus method was easier to learn imo O.o I want to get down under 1 minute, I'm stuck at 1:10 right now
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 10 2011 14:05 GMT
#128
On October 10 2011 22:50 Necosarius wrote:
The Petrus method was easier to learn imo O.o I want to get down under 1 minute, I'm stuck at 1:10 right now


idk maybe im biased because i learned the f2l method, but i feel f2l is abit less complicated because after getting the cross, you just do the same thing 4 times. as opposed to each step being abit different for the petrus.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
October 10 2011 14:07 GMT
#129
I did not read all.... BUT I am going to write my master thesis in group theory by analyzing the rubics cube, so I might have something to add when I am done (in May next year... ). I probably won't look at speed solving, but at solvability (solving algortihmes that always will work, however slow), orbits (for those who know what that is) and subgroups.

- Xiphias
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
October 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#130
On October 10 2011 23:07 Xiphias wrote:
I did not read all.... BUT I am going to write my master thesis in group theory by analyzing the rubics cube, so I might have something to add when I am done (in May next year... ). I probably won't look at speed solving, but at solvability (solving algortihmes that always will work, however slow), orbits (for those who know what that is) and subgroups.

- Xiphias

Dude, whats you major?
I'm really interested in your master thesis as I'm a big fan of Rubik's cube in general. :D
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 10 2011 18:39 GMT
#131
On October 11 2011 01:04 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 23:07 Xiphias wrote:
I did not read all.... BUT I am going to write my master thesis in group theory by analyzing the rubics cube, so I might have something to add when I am done (in May next year... ). I probably won't look at speed solving, but at solvability (solving algortihmes that always will work, however slow), orbits (for those who know what that is) and subgroups.

- Xiphias

Dude, whats you major?
I'm really interested in your master thesis as I'm a big fan of Rubik's cube in general. :D


hes probably a math major. group theory is very pertinent to the designing of algorithms for OLL and PLL because the easier/more intuitive algorithms are essentially performing a set of actions, then something in the middle to displace or orient some pieces and then doing and inversion of the first set of actions.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 10 2011 18:46 GMT
#132
I used to cube a lot.. got down to a sub30s average.. Stopped for a while and I can barely average under 40 ><

I'm currently using intuitive F2L and whatever I can remember of 2-look OLL and PLL.. Any recommendations on other things to try?
derp
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 10 2011 19:21 GMT
#133
On October 11 2011 03:46 Jaso wrote:
I used to cube a lot.. got down to a sub30s average.. Stopped for a while and I can barely average under 40 ><

I'm currently using intuitive F2L and whatever I can remember of 2-look OLL and PLL.. Any recommendations on other things to try?


Are you looking for a more advanced version of your method or something else entirely?

For a step-up, I'd learn ~7 algs to insert the last ce pair while orienting LL edges. Algs and recognition are both very simple iirc. Then you can finish up OLL in one step, and PLL in one step.
It's kind of a 1look OLL, but way less than 57 algs for a traditional approach.
It was actually my "cop-out" and how I solved the cube when I was speedsolving, so I'm quite partial to it. I think it's a nice compromise, since that 57 is such a big number... At least I never got around to learning the full OLL

For something else entirely.. try another speedsolving method like roux. Or even move away from speedsolving and try blindfold or fewest moves. Both of those are tons of fun; I found blindfold more impressive for onlookers but fewest moves was more rewarding for myself.

Hell, you can even do a different puzzle, like square-1!
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
wizard944
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
194 Posts
October 10 2011 19:29 GMT
#134
oh wow, this brings back a lot of memories. I used to love rubik's cubes and I always prided myself in figuring out the solution entirely on my own. I had gotten down to like 32 seconds or so at some point. Now, I would probably have a lot of trouble even breaking a minute and a half. My fingers have gotten stronger so I always overshoot all of the turns hahaha
Kassar DeTemplari
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 19:48:24
October 10 2011 19:42 GMT
#135
On October 11 2011 03:46 Jaso wrote:
I used to cube a lot.. got down to a sub30s average.. Stopped for a while and I can barely average under 40 ><

I'm currently using intuitive F2L and whatever I can remember of 2-look OLL and PLL.. Any recommendations on other things to try?


i would say relearn the full OLL+PLL. and also be on the lookout for new algorithms that you feel more comfortable with or can do faster.
just keep practicing. really when you are practicing focus alot on the F2L. while you are doing each CE pair try to be looking ahead to the next pair.
learning to do the OLL and PLL algs faster will just come in the course of trying to practice F2L since getting better at F2L takes so much longer.

try to get sub20. its very achievable and very rewarding.

also if you are bored you can try some one handed solving. this hurts alot but it actually helps you with looking ahead on the F2L since you cant turn the cube so fast so you might as well be looking ahead instead of rushing to finish the CE pair.

*edit
note the reason why i say focus on F2L is that thats where most of the time will be made up for you. most of my OLL and PLL algs in my prime were maybe a second slower than the best of the best. but i was still 18s to their 10s. all of their time was made in the F2L.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 20:00:21
October 10 2011 19:58 GMT
#136
Thanks for all the advice :D

I do spend way too much time on F2L and cross.. I'm not exactly sure what to do; I guess just more practice haha.

I'll try going from 2-look OLL and PLL to 1-look PLL, then maybe full OLL.

Also, what would you say are the best cubes right now? I have a couple F2s (favorite) and AlphaVs. I like the AlphaV's sharpness and preciseness, but I tend to pop A LOT when using it; I never pop with the F2, but it doesn't feel as clean and I tend to slow down on corners.

Should be lubing these? I bought them pre-assembled and they were fine when I opened them so I just never bothered.. I do have silicone spray on hand though.

edit: and a HaiYan.. pops a ton as well.
derp
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
October 10 2011 20:16 GMT
#137
I know i'm not contributing anything to this thread but i never knew that people were so hardcore about their Rubik's Cubes. This just made my day lol.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
October 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#138
glad to see cubing is in again
xD
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
October 11 2011 01:12 GMT
#139
On October 11 2011 03:39 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 01:04 Hoon wrote:
On October 10 2011 23:07 Xiphias wrote:
I did not read all.... BUT I am going to write my master thesis in group theory by analyzing the rubics cube, so I might have something to add when I am done (in May next year... ). I probably won't look at speed solving, but at solvability (solving algortihmes that always will work, however slow), orbits (for those who know what that is) and subgroups.

- Xiphias

Dude, whats you major?
I'm really interested in your master thesis as I'm a big fan of Rubik's cube in general. :D


hes probably a math major. group theory is very pertinent to the designing of algorithms for OLL and PLL because the easier/more intuitive algorithms are essentially performing a set of actions, then something in the middle to displace or orient some pieces and then doing and inversion of the first set of actions.

Ooh, that's interesting. And I thought math was all about calculating integers and derivatives of stupid and useless functions (I'm an Electronic Engineer undergrad. :p)

On October 11 2011 05:16 Xinder wrote:
I know i'm not contributing anything to this thread but i never knew that people were so hardcore about their Rubik's Cubes. This just made my day lol.

You should look for some championships and leader boards. There are some websites that follows the whole speed cubing scene with all the worldwide records and average times. ^_^
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Aookami
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil64 Posts
October 21 2011 21:26 GMT
#140
I started cubing somedays ago (avg 4 minutes using layer by layer method D
i was wondering if you can achieve the same times using lbl, petrus or friedrich?
Brotoss hwaiting!
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