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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
May 20 2009 18:21 GMT
#41
Correlation doesn't always mean causation


Sat: 2000

ICCUP: 1500
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 01:16:03
May 20 2009 18:24 GMT
#42
SAT - 1350 Old one.
ICCup - 3000
Retired BW Noob
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 20 2009 18:29 GMT
#43
SAT: 1060
ICCUP: 5000
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
May 20 2009 18:34 GMT
#44
SAT: 1380/1600
ICCUP: 2200
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 20 2009 18:49 GMT
#45
2170 SAT
I have no exact number, but if I had to guess it'd be ~2500 for my ICCUP ranking.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 20 2009 19:53 GMT
#46
1600 on old SAT + 800 SAT II Writing (back when it was still around) = 2400 new SAT presumably

D Protoss
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 20 2009 20:05 GMT
#47
0 and D- protoss
wow im terrible
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
May 20 2009 20:13 GMT
#48
On May 21 2009 04:53 GrandInquisitor wrote:
1600 on old SAT + 800 SAT II Writing (back when it was still around) = 2400 new SAT presumably

D Protoss



wow!

Smart guy~!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 20 2009 20:45 GMT
#49
2300 on the new SAT
~7500 B
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
May 20 2009 20:49 GMT
#50
2280 SAT
2440 ICCUP
skating
akechi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States43 Posts
May 20 2009 22:10 GMT
#51
On May 21 2009 03:10 Hawk wrote:
You're gonna fail whatever this is for. You can't just convert the 1600 to the new one lol

There's still huge variables with the sat, even if you eliminate the old farts. Someone could be a math wiz, but totally incapable of writing, or vice versa.

Race used would probably have to be considered as well.




There is a mathematically accepted procedure to convert the old SAT scores to the appropriate proportions of the new SAT scores. Although it is not perfect, it gives people a rough estimate of what they would have gotten if they had taken the new SAT.

akechi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States43 Posts
May 20 2009 22:15 GMT
#52
On May 20 2009 15:53 MaZza[KIS] wrote:

I'm interested to know what you're trying to prove. Before I go on a rant or make assumptions: What are you trying to prove? What's your aim/hypothesis?


My parameter of interest would be the Teamliquid community

I am hoping to get at least a 100 points of data from a 100 individual people then randomly selecting 50 in order to establish the basic conditions needed for a Chi-Square test.

My Null hypothesis: There is association between SAT scores and skill level of starcraft players
my alternative hypothesis: There is no association between SAT scores and skill level of players

And of course there are outlets to give way to bias, skewed data/information and what not but there is of course a section of the project that tells me to state any and all possible ways that my data or information had been skewed in any way. So for all the people not actually contributing to the topic and saying negative things about my project, please either say something negative then offer a solution to the said negative thing or just post your info. Thank you.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
May 20 2009 22:57 GMT
#53
1550/1600 old SAT
D- Iccup almost as long ago
I also have a 12 inch penis if that's helps you correlate SAT scores with Iccup rank.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 21 2009 00:36 GMT
#54
New SAT has a differently formatted English section and added topic into the Math section iirc. Plus, the test was so much longer due to more sections + writing section, so it's hard to find a relation between old SAT + new SAT scores.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
May 21 2009 00:37 GMT
#55
2360 SAT
2030 ICCUP
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
May 21 2009 00:56 GMT
#56
SAT Score: 2140
Highest Numerical ICCup Ranking: 1238
akechi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States43 Posts
May 21 2009 00:58 GMT
#57
39 valid responses, I still need 61 more. Tell your friends to post their info as well please.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
May 21 2009 01:29 GMT
#58
On May 21 2009 07:15 akechi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 15:53 MaZza[KIS] wrote:

I'm interested to know what you're trying to prove. Before I go on a rant or make assumptions: What are you trying to prove? What's your aim/hypothesis?


My parameter of interest would be the Teamliquid community

I am hoping to get at least a 100 points of data from a 100 individual people then randomly selecting 50 in order to establish the basic conditions needed for a Chi-Square test.

My Null hypothesis: There is association between SAT scores and skill level of starcraft players
my alternative hypothesis: There is no association between SAT scores and skill level of players

And of course there are outlets to give way to bias, skewed data/information and what not but there is of course a section of the project that tells me to state any and all possible ways that my data or information had been skewed in any way. So for all the people not actually contributing to the topic and saying negative things about my project, please either say something negative then offer a solution to the said negative thing or just post your info. Thank you.


See this is where I got worried:

There is association between SAT scores and skill level of starcraft players

See, hyopthesizing is not random. You have to have an AIM first. You have to ask yourself the question WHY? Why am I doing this? Is there any rational reason why I want to ascertain this information. i.e., if I ascertain this piece of information X will be solved.

In my view, you're looking at e-sports and the characteristics necessary to succeed in esports.

I propose that, rather then SAT or IQ, the major component of e-sports success will be dedication., i.e. hours spent practicing.

In fact, I've seen that already (quite briefly) in some of the results posted. I mean, it makes sense:

study hard --> less bw --> lower ICCUP level (less time to practice mechanics), but higher grades

less study --> more bw --> higher ICCUP score, but lower grades

It's a simple level of explanation that can be extrapolated with some logic. See, I THINK , (and this is strictly my opinion) that you're trying to prove something that can be logically ascertained. What is HARD to ascertain is the balance. For example, what is the MIX of brains + dedication necessary, or something of that sort. Just saying, you don't need brains to be awesome at SC is obvious. Why? Because you can just copy progamer builds, get really good at it and ascertain a fairly high level without ever having any creativity in your play...

From experience, it's the planning stage that matters the most... It's corny but, "if you fail to plan, you plan to fail". There's some truth to that and I don't think you've planned your assignemnt out at all.

If it was my assignment I'd look at the characteristics required to be a succesful e-sports (or starcraft player). I would take these characteristics from general sports and add some specific to e-sports (surely there are studies out there on successful atheletes and their characteristics). Then I'd ask the appropriate question and come up with the ranking system of necessary characteristics. This would then (perhaps) allow comparison with regular sports to highlight differences/similarities:

i.e. you require the same level of dedication but more brains for e-sports ... or something of that sort.

Again, I don't know what level you're doing this research at, but it looks like it's just high-school/college and you're just looking to get the grades and let that be that....
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 01:33:15
May 21 2009 01:31 GMT
#59
1500 exact on the new SAT
B- highest
edit: oh fuk i don't know what the numerical value i had..i think it was like 6070 (if B- is 6k I can't remember)
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
May 21 2009 01:34 GMT
#60
1300 on old SAT
D+, ~2500 ICCUP
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